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#1901 Post by celaph » Wed May 26, 2021 5:34 pm

Vecna wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 1:41 pm
It was just me mentioned the people showing online lol.

I think its gimix/emc/celaph

With the latter 2 being more likely than gimix.

And me still being a little suspect about HB because he fooled me quite nicely last game as 3p, but I just cant find any real reasons to be suspicious of him here.

I dont think macca is this black and white as scum. Not this combinative and tunnely on me.

Youre you, and youre fine

RHK is close to conftown for me.

did I forget someone?
Do you want to explain your reasons for those scumreads? With out one, I'm a little bothered that it seems like you've named just 3 of the 4 lowest activity posters.

Also, can you explain your read on RHK and the confidence that you have in it?

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#1902 Post by celaph » Wed May 26, 2021 5:37 pm

Vecna wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 8:16 am
And EMC, if youre town, please do something to prevent being misskilled soon
This feels like you're trying to set-up a miskill on EMC. I think if you're town you just ask EMC to be more active, which he should be, instead of phrasing it around killing him.

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#1903 Post by celaph » Wed May 26, 2021 5:39 pm

Vecna wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 8:15 am
RHK/Celaph/HB - why no response from any of you?

Id have expected at least something, whether you agree or disagree. Its not like this game has a lot of other stuff going on now.
Life is busy with finals fast approaching and it's hard to convince myself to solve the game when lfischl is a wagon. He was 10x scummier than the next person on my reads.

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#1904 Post by celaph » Wed May 26, 2021 5:45 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 3:53 pm
Demon is one I have not spent a lot of time on.

I'll get back to their emphatic support for the lfischl kill later, but what I pulled out of the days I do have:

D1: Demon: Seemed to be trying to inject some life and thought into the D1; not sure they'll sustain that, but I'd lean town right now.

D2: Low N1 activity; sus of ifischl, Perp, myself.

D3: I think I townread them; has to be town due to hammering on Damo vote. reverse read of Demon, who is apparently ill. Get better. Does scum demon vote to hammer to kill Damo? Nah, I think they would hold on and make for some confusion. If Demon isn't town, force-feed scotch bonnets to me.

However, stating that they are sus of 3 confirmed town... Really need to deep dive here.
Side note: D3 the vote was on ghug, not Damo. I'm assuming you're talking about D2.

Why don't you think that scum demon end votes Damo there? He has been end voting all game and if he suddenly stops end voting on the person that comes up scum that will draw attention. Also, it's not likely that scum is getting a miskill there. The main cw all day was ghug who is also scum.

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#1905 Post by celaph » Wed May 26, 2021 5:50 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 1:50 pm
Vecna wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 1:41 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 1:37 pm


I can't talk to you. How you think is the last scum?
It was just me mentioned the people showing online lol.

I think its gimix/emc/celaph

With the latter 2 being more likely than gimix.

And me still being a little suspect about HB because he fooled me quite nicely last game as 3p, but I just cant find any real reasons to be suspicious of him here.

I dont think macca is this black and white as scum. Not this combinative and tunnely on me.

Youre you, and youre fine

RHK is close to conftown for me.

did I forget someone?
Gimix is also pretty towny to me. Macca too, even with they telling they em change personality.
Demon I don't know for sure. I was scumreading him and hard bussing is something I expect from the Jailor, but on the other side pushing Chaqa wagon with Ghug isn't what I expect from Jailor. Could be sniper, but then the bussing argument doesn't fit.
You are a question mark too. I didn't like D1, you like to impersonate as scum (Ceasar) but I don't think scum will push this idea about keeping lfischl alive and push discussion, they can just sit quiet.
So, emc and Celaph are on the table and Demon depending how lfishcl flips.
Can you speak more to the last line?

Speaking with hindsight, why wouldn't scum Vecna want to keep town lfischl alive? He's the freest of miskills at kilo.

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#1906 Post by Hamilton Brian » Wed May 26, 2021 5:58 pm

celaph wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 5:45 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 3:53 pm
Demon is one I have not spent a lot of time on.

I'll get back to their emphatic support for the lfischl kill later, but what I pulled out of the days I do have:

D1: Demon: Seemed to be trying to inject some life and thought into the D1; not sure they'll sustain that, but I'd lean town right now.

D2: Low N1 activity; sus of ifischl, Perp, myself.

D3: I think I townread them; has to be town due to hammering on Damo vote. reverse read of Demon, who is apparently ill. Get better. Does scum demon vote to hammer to kill Damo? Nah, I think they would hold on and make for some confusion. If Demon isn't town, force-feed scotch bonnets to me.

However, stating that they are sus of 3 confirmed town... Really need to deep dive here.
Side note: D3 the vote was on ghug, not Damo. I'm assuming you're talking about D2.

Why don't you think that scum demon end votes Damo there? He has been end voting all game and if he suddenly stops end voting on the person that comes up scum that will draw attention. Also, it's not likely that scum is getting a miskill there. The main cw all day was ghug who is also scum.
That's something I hadn't considered so it's an interesting thought to me.

Do you think it's more reasonable that scumDemon would land on a prevailing wagon (partner or not) than to land on a noncompetitive one? I am asking because I am not really sure. Too many possibilities, maybe.

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#1907 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed May 26, 2021 5:59 pm

celaph wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 5:50 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 1:50 pm
Vecna wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 1:41 pm


It was just me mentioned the people showing online lol.

I think its gimix/emc/celaph

With the latter 2 being more likely than gimix.

And me still being a little suspect about HB because he fooled me quite nicely last game as 3p, but I just cant find any real reasons to be suspicious of him here.

I dont think macca is this black and white as scum. Not this combinative and tunnely on me.

Youre you, and youre fine

RHK is close to conftown for me.

did I forget someone?
Gimix is also pretty towny to me. Macca too, even with they telling they em change personality.
Demon I don't know for sure. I was scumreading him and hard bussing is something I expect from the Jailor, but on the other side pushing Chaqa wagon with Ghug isn't what I expect from Jailor. Could be sniper, but then the bussing argument doesn't fit.
You are a question mark too. I didn't like D1, you like to impersonate as scum (Ceasar) but I don't think scum will push this idea about keeping lfischl alive and push discussion, they can just sit quiet.
So, emc and Celaph are on the table and Demon depending how lfishcl flips.
Can you speak more to the last line?

Speaking with hindsight, why wouldn't scum Vecna want to keep town lfischl alive? He's the freest of miskills at kilo.
Are you asking about Demon? I was considering lfischl will flip scum. I don´t think Demon can be the Jailor, so if lfischl flipped Sniper, Demon would be a lot townier to me.

I thought that scum would not want to defend a catched scum lfischl. Now that he flipped town I agree that wanting to have him around could be a scum tactic to have a free miskill at kilo.

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#1908 Post by celaph » Wed May 26, 2021 5:59 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 4:35 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 2:32 pm
And two confirmed scum on that wagon.

Was President Eden killed because he called rivera and vecna out by name?
I thought he was killed to frame me (obviously it's my POV). But after lfishcl flipped town I think he was killed to make sure lfishcl was miskilled.
I don't recall much sus being on him either. Just a good kill if you want to kill the townread people.

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#1909 Post by brainbomb » Wed May 26, 2021 6:03 pm

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#1910 Post by brainbomb » Wed May 26, 2021 6:04 pm

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#1911 Post by celaph » Wed May 26, 2021 6:19 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 5:58 pm
celaph wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 5:45 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 3:53 pm
Demon is one I have not spent a lot of time on.

I'll get back to their emphatic support for the lfischl kill later, but what I pulled out of the days I do have:

D1: Demon: Seemed to be trying to inject some life and thought into the D1; not sure they'll sustain that, but I'd lean town right now.

D2: Low N1 activity; sus of ifischl, Perp, myself.

D3: I think I townread them; has to be town due to hammering on Damo vote. reverse read of Demon, who is apparently ill. Get better. Does scum demon vote to hammer to kill Damo? Nah, I think they would hold on and make for some confusion. If Demon isn't town, force-feed scotch bonnets to me.

However, stating that they are sus of 3 confirmed town... Really need to deep dive here.
Side note: D3 the vote was on ghug, not Damo. I'm assuming you're talking about D2.

Why don't you think that scum demon end votes Damo there? He has been end voting all game and if he suddenly stops end voting on the person that comes up scum that will draw attention. Also, it's not likely that scum is getting a miskill there. The main cw all day was ghug who is also scum.
That's something I hadn't considered so it's an interesting thought to me.

Do you think it's more reasonable that scumDemon would land on a prevailing wagon (partner or not) than to land on a noncompetitive one? I am asking because I am not really sure. Too many possibilities, maybe.
Demon showed D1 that despite endvoting he was plenty willing to move votes. If we was on a noncompetitive wagon, he would have moved to a competitive one.

The more interesting thing is that Demon helped ensure that Damo was a competitive wagon with his confidence that Damo was lying. In addition to the D1 things that rdr mentioned, this is why I think that Demon not jailor. Overall, he's been towny with the exception of the one post I've highlighted before.

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#1912 Post by celaph » Wed May 26, 2021 6:20 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 5:59 pm
celaph wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 5:50 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 1:50 pm


Gimix is also pretty towny to me. Macca too, even with they telling they em change personality.
Demon I don't know for sure. I was scumreading him and hard bussing is something I expect from the Jailor, but on the other side pushing Chaqa wagon with Ghug isn't what I expect from Jailor. Could be sniper, but then the bussing argument doesn't fit.
You are a question mark too. I didn't like D1, you like to impersonate as scum (Ceasar) but I don't think scum will push this idea about keeping lfischl alive and push discussion, they can just sit quiet.
So, emc and Celaph are on the table and Demon depending how lfishcl flips.
Can you speak more to the last line?

Speaking with hindsight, why wouldn't scum Vecna want to keep town lfischl alive? He's the freest of miskills at kilo.
Are you asking about Demon? I was considering lfischl will flip scum. I don´t think Demon can be the Jailor, so if lfischl flipped Sniper, Demon would be a lot townier to me.

I thought that scum would not want to defend a catched scum lfischl. Now that he flipped town I agree that wanting to have him around could be a scum tactic to have a free miskill at kilo.
Also, just curious on the reads on me and EMC. I've heard our names thrown around by a couple of people without much in terms of reads.

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#1913 Post by Vecna » Wed May 26, 2021 6:33 pm

celaph wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 5:34 pm
Vecna wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 1:41 pm
It was just me mentioned the people showing online lol.

I think its gimix/emc/celaph

With the latter 2 being more likely than gimix.

And me still being a little suspect about HB because he fooled me quite nicely last game as 3p, but I just cant find any real reasons to be suspicious of him here.

I dont think macca is this black and white as scum. Not this combinative and tunnely on me.

Youre you, and youre fine

RHK is close to conftown for me.

did I forget someone?
Do you want to explain your reasons for those scumreads? With out one, I'm a little bothered that it seems like you've named just 3 of the 4 lowest activity posters.

Also, can you explain your read on RHK and the confidence that you have in it?
With you ive had the feeling all game you were either a PR or scum. You didnt do any of your cheerful things, your posts didnt leave an impact - just the general feeling youre trying to stay completely under the radar.

EMC hasnt done his whimsical tell for me all game. He doesnt seem to be having fun. He didnt poke damo, didnt discuss him, didnt seem proud for catching him. He' just feels a bit lifeless. Even his vote on me then to switch to lfischl was like "yeah I just voted you because I want you to be active". I dont think this is a complete scumtell for him since he also does this as town at times, but theres nearly always a few small bits where I can detect him being town.

Gimix just feels like he ought to be a smart person, but he seems to be portraying himself a bit too much on the carefull? side? Its a thin feeling. He just feels like hes very carefull in his posting.

With RHK its his feeling of thread presence. Last game we killed him D1 easily because he just was scum to me? This game he's up in everyones face and not afraid. Last game he was angry posturing, this game he's angry-posting. Hope that makes sense.

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Also, your characterization of my scumreads being much less active? I find it pretty odd. Noone is active this game, and everyone feels to be pretty much on a similar activity level. Minus EMC ofcourse. Also, we already killed the active scums.

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#1914 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed May 26, 2021 6:35 pm

celaph wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 6:20 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 5:59 pm
celaph wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 5:50 pm

Can you speak more to the last line?

Speaking with hindsight, why wouldn't scum Vecna want to keep town lfischl alive? He's the freest of miskills at kilo.
Are you asking about Demon? I was considering lfischl will flip scum. I don´t think Demon can be the Jailor, so if lfischl flipped Sniper, Demon would be a lot townier to me.

I thought that scum would not want to defend a catched scum lfischl. Now that he flipped town I agree that wanting to have him around could be a scum tactic to have a free miskill at kilo.
Also, just curious on the reads on me and EMC. I've heard our names thrown around by a couple of people without much in terms of reads.
I was townreading you because of your Damo vote on D1. But I also think third Mafia might have bussed hard and Sniper are a lone wolf, so it´s not that strong of a town indication. And your participation after D1 have been really low, so it´s hard to read you and the same is valid for emc.

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#1915 Post by Vecna » Wed May 26, 2021 6:35 pm

celaph wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 5:37 pm
Vecna wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 8:16 am
And EMC, if youre town, please do something to prevent being misskilled soon
This feels like you're trying to set-up a miskill on EMC. I think if you're town you just ask EMC to be more active, which he should be, instead of phrasing it around killing him.
If he continues like he has been, he's going to get killed. soon. Period

No idea why youre trying to push it like im trying to set up his misskill. If I go afk for the next 2 days, and dont mention him at all, you think he's going to survive?

I want him to participate, because if he is town, ill read him correctly for it.

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#1916 Post by e.m.c^42 » Wed May 26, 2021 7:11 pm

I see my name! Hi

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#1917 Post by e.m.c^42 » Wed May 26, 2021 7:13 pm

Gimme few hours before EOD to read, probably won't be too long

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#1918 Post by e.m.c^42 » Wed May 26, 2021 7:14 pm

Oh wait, never mind, y'all hammered lmao

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#1919 Post by Hamilton Brian » Wed May 26, 2021 7:16 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 7:13 pm
Gimme few hours before EOD to read, probably won't be too long
No, probably won't take too long. With this current iteration, it's been made easy for you.

This is definitely the lowest participation/posting game I've been a part of.

So where's the happy medium where' we're not all reading/writing novels but scum don't have the chance to skate by with little?

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#1920 Post by Hamilton Brian » Wed May 26, 2021 7:16 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 7:14 pm
Oh wait, never mind, y'all hammered lmao
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