MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

[damo666]

I have more time now.

1. Why wasn't I killed last night?

Easy

i) scum aren't gonna waste a NK on me when i can self heal
ii) leaving me alive creates suspicion

2. Why wasn't I jailed?

This is more problematic.

Maybe they have a cop read on worcej and thought that it was more useful to them to jail him rather than me (together with the resultant confusion) [worcej clearly isn't cop btw, scum can have that for free but I suspect they have worked it out!]

OR (and I'm increasingly believing this may be the case)

Worcej is the jailer and is fake claiming.

3. Why no poison kill?

Either

i) HR held because he was unsure
ii) Shambler was the target
iii) I was the target and healed

Obviously I know whether it was iii or not but equally obviously I'm not going to say.

4. Why am I delaying my N1 action info?

Obviously I don't want scum to know whether I used HEAL or not. Incidentally worcej pushing this point adds to my suspicion he is the jailer.

Counter to #1 - All of these could've been accomplished while also jailing you. The same level of suspicion is created regardless if you were jailed or not and your action would've been wasted if you were jailed or not.

Counter to #2 - Jailing you prevents any other actions you may end up doing other than heal. My conclusion is you were not jailed because you're the sniper and your hidden partners were PR hunting.

No counter to #3 - These are all possible outcomes, though I am inclined to think #2 was actually carried out.

Counter to #4 - Town!Damo always info dumps out and is wise to possible death. You're a unclaimed PR in a setup where scum have a day kill. If I was the scum daykiller, I would've shot you early this phase just to make sure you're dead. This hasn't happened and I believe it's because you're the sniper.

If you are what you claim, a townsperson who thinks I am scum, then surely you can see why the sniper hasn't shot me. If you think I'm scum perhaps the sniper thinks I'm scum. Rocket science it ain't.

[damo666]

##call gm

Would scum jailing the JOAT put whatever ability he tried to use on the 3 phase cooldown?

GM NOTEY NOTE
A failed action is used up. gone. bye felicia.
PM me for any additional questions about the roles on page 1.

This is the most important post of D2. With damo not being jailed this means the scum never even asked or considered the possibility of jailing still eating the action, because they weren't sorried about it, BUCAUSE THERE WAS NO ACTION FOR DAMO TO TAKE

I TOOK AN ACTION

[worcej]

Until I actually see a mafia team pass up a free roleblock on a power role just to meme on town I'm not going to give that idea credit. If this is the game that happened then good for them. I don't think it is. ##END

This happened literally last game.

Only because the scum team thought the WW would kill darg.

You're intentionally painting a bad picture here.

[worcej]

I have more time now.

1. Why wasn't I killed last night?

Easy

i) scum aren't gonna waste a NK on me when i can self heal
ii) leaving me alive creates suspicion

2. Why wasn't I jailed?

This is more problematic.

Maybe they have a cop read on worcej and thought that it was more useful to them to jail him rather than me (together with the resultant confusion) [worcej clearly isn't cop btw, scum can have that for free but I suspect they have worked it out!]

OR (and I'm increasingly believing this may be the case)

Worcej is the jailer and is fake claiming.

3. Why no poison kill?

Either

i) HR held because he was unsure
ii) Shambler was the target
iii) I was the target and healed

Obviously I know whether it was iii or not but equally obviously I'm not going to say.

4. Why am I delaying my N1 action info?

Obviously I don't want scum to know whether I used HEAL or not. Incidentally worcej pushing this point adds to my suspicion he is the jailer.

Counter to #1 - All of these could've been accomplished while also jailing you. The same level of suspicion is created regardless if you were jailed or not and your action would've been wasted if you were jailed or not.

Counter to #2 - Jailing you prevents any other actions you may end up doing other than heal. My conclusion is you were not jailed because you're the sniper and your hidden partners were PR hunting.

No counter to #3 - These are all possible outcomes, though I am inclined to think #2 was actually carried out.

Counter to #4 - Town!Damo always info dumps out and is wise to possible death. You're a unclaimed PR in a setup where scum have a day kill. If I was the scum daykiller, I would've shot you early this phase just to make sure you're dead. This hasn't happened and I believe it's because you're the sniper.

If you are what you claim, a townsperson who thinks I am scum, then surely you can see why the sniper hasn't shot me. If you think I'm scum perhaps the sniper thinks I'm scum. Rocket science it ain't.

I think it's more likely your arms cannot reach long enough to pull the trigger with the barrel pointed at yourself.

[ghug]

Until I actually see a mafia team pass up a free roleblock on a power role just to meme on town I'm not going to give that idea credit. If this is the game that happened then good for them. I don't think it is. ##END

This happened literally last game.

Only because the scum team thought the WW would kill darg.

You're intentionally painting a bad picture here.

We've been over this like three times at this point. I'm not saying the situation is identical, but they did knowingly risk him getting a scan off in other to roleblock someone else, and it clearly wasn't a negligible risk because it happened.

We're killing an unCCed PR. It's stupid.

[worcej]

Until I actually see a mafia team pass up a free roleblock on a power role just to meme on town I'm not going to give that idea credit. If this is the game that happened then good for them. I don't think it is. ##END

This happened literally last game.

Only because the scum team thought the WW would kill darg.

You're intentionally painting a bad picture here.

The proof:

Chaqa
21-04-2021
15:15 BST
Or do we want to let the WW kill Darg?

Probably.

My suggestions:
Macca kills Vecna (if we can't make Macca do the kill, Celaph should)
Celaph Janitor Vecna
Kgray drive Macca with [Brainbomb??]

kgray
21-04-2021
15:38 BST
I think we let the werewolf go for Darg.

Chaqa
21-04-2021
18:26 BST

For PR hunting purposes (for my roleblock) I would want to RB damo, worcej, Maniac, or rivera. They all seem potential PRs to me.

[worcej]

This happened literally last game.

Only because the scum team thought the WW would kill darg.

You're intentionally painting a bad picture here.

We've been over this like three times at this point. I'm not saying the situation is identical, but they did knowingly risk him getting a scan off in other to roleblock someone else, and it clearly wasn't a negligible risk because it happened.

We're killing an unCCed PR. It's stupid.

You're trying to disprove Eden's comment with last game when, as you just said, the context is no where near the same. So why did you bring last game into this?

[worcej]

And to be crystal clear - they thought darg was going to DIE that phase, which he should've died if HB didn't play badly at the 3rd party role.

[damo666]

Counter to #1 - All of these could've been accomplished while also jailing you. The same level of suspicion is created regardless if you were jailed or not and your action would've been wasted if you were jailed or not.

Counter to #2 - Jailing you prevents any other actions you may end up doing other than heal. My conclusion is you were not jailed because you're the sniper and your hidden partners were PR hunting.

No counter to #3 - These are all possible outcomes, though I am inclined to think #2 was actually carried out.

Counter to #4 - Town!Damo always info dumps out and is wise to possible death. You're a unclaimed PR in a setup where scum have a day kill. If I was the scum daykiller, I would've shot you early this phase just to make sure you're dead. This hasn't happened and I believe it's because you're the sniper.

If you are what you claim, a townsperson who thinks I am scum, then surely you can see why the sniper hasn't shot me. If you think I'm scum perhaps the sniper thinks I'm scum. Rocket science it ain't.

I think it's more likely your arms cannot reach long enough to pull the trigger with the barrel pointed at yourself.

Charming

[DemonRHK]

Jesus christ ghug.

What do you want? Me to speedwagon someone you're too chickenshit to start again?

Do something more than tuting from the sidelines, you pissy we're talking about a claim and going to kill damo? Then make a case and fuckin sell us on someone else.

[damo666]

Why are worcej and ghug replaying a previous game?

Scum distraction?

[e.m.c^42]

EMC is alive! Anything of particular interest happen over night or day until now?

[damo666]

Somebody explain the lfischl case please.

[Hamilton Brian]

Someone please just tell me where to put my vote. I am way too conflicted with all of this back and forth and I am getting angry. I'm seeing value in EVERYTHING that worcej and damo are saying.

[worcej]

We're killing an unCCed PR. It's stupid.

You're actively playing more poorly then I've ever seen you play.

[worcej]

Someone please just tell me where to put my vote. I am way too conflicted with all of this back and forth and I am getting angry. I'm seeing value in EVERYTHING that worcej and damo are saying.

Put. It. On. Damo.

[DemonRHK]

Somebody explain the lfischl case please.

My case is he's playing scared and an oprotunistic jump onto chaqa at the end of D1.

[damo666]

EMC is alive! Anything of particular interest happen over night or day until now?

Yep. Worcej has turned into a mole.

[President Eden]

Can I just say that this day being all about damo and nothing else is exactly the shitshow I predicted it would be?

I'm starting to feel pretty confident in several townreads at this point... not really a shitshow to me. Are you not?

Well, the overwhelming majority of you seen to have decided that I'm scum for daring to go against the grain. Knowing that's not true makes me question how much can accurately be drawn from the rest of it.

The only person who's moved themselves significantly towards town for me today is worcej.

I think you’re being kinda funny and maybe sus but you’re not my d3 vote at this point. You just sound so mopey and deflated. Have fun bro!!!!!

[Hamilton Brian]

Somebody explain the lfischl case please.

Not a strong case but just really canned questions; not sticking around to dig into the results of those canned questions.

So not conclusively scum, but not the great hope for town either.