MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

[foodcoats]

##VOTE lfischl

[foodcoats]

they should be open, whoever received a notif that they will be eliminated thanks to our PR, should confess and not keep this secret

I think the lack of claim of being poisoned means either HR held, or he did indeed strike scum. Fingers crossed.

[President Eden]

I feel like I missed something in the rules that said the poisoner's target learns that they were poisoned

[President Eden]

Also if damo is actually JOAT then he may have saved himself to protect against HR's poison

[ghug]

##VOTE DemonRHK

y tho

He started the Chaqa wagon presumably knowing I was willing to YOLO join. He's returned to talking more, but he's not saying anything useful. Nobody seems interested in killing Perp, and I (shockingly) don't like the other two wagons, so I'm trying something new.

[brainbomb]

Also if damo is actually JOAT then he may have saved himself to protect against HR's poison

This is covered in system messages link on page 1.
and was extensively covered in pregame.

review system messages for additional info.

[President Eden]

Also if damo is actually JOAT then he may have saved himself to protect against HR's poison

This is covered in system messages link on page 1.
and was extensively covered in pregame.

review system messages for additional info.

Instructions unclear, going back to Stellaris and then returning in several hours with more blatantly incorrect role interaction theories

[worcej]

town leader, that's what you are this game

If I am, let me relish in this power of leadership to return the favor to ghug for all the times he's been okay with me dying.

##vote ghug

It's not clear to me why you've so quickly flipped your opinion on me.

You seem to be blowing up one comment about information that you took to mean backwards looking (yes, there's information about D1 that we learn with damo's alignment, but we're guaranteed to get that information soon anyway) when it was meant forward-looking (i.e. today's VCA will become people who have a general opposition to killing un-CCed PRs vs. people who don't). It was also not my main argument against killing damo, and doesn't seem to warrant that drastic of a turn on its own.

It may only be sudden to you because of the time space between my posting, but in general I have not liked your D2 and I am looking back on your N1 posts to setup pushing targets that started wagons, which include people who shaded damo. It seems opportunistic and an intentional setup to drive votes.

You've effectively said flipping damo is bad information, when it's actually great information under the context of our typical scum meta, which is the most dependable meta we have here. Scum do not take unnecessary risks and letting the JOAT possibly execute one of their abilities is a huge risk, considering they are tracking and a motion detector (kinda like watching). Even under the guise of 'sowing confusion', it would be ridiculous to assume scum would take this risk on N1 when they are already disadvantaged with their 4th player being on an island and they cannot coordinate with them.

In general, you're trying to distract/refute content others are pushing forward instead of actually hunting. You're putting more effort into attacking my WIFOM with logic while selectively ignoring other obvious logic that blows your argument up.

[brainbomb]

quoted wrong post but you get me

[brainbomb]

Also if damo is actually JOAT then he may have saved himself to protect against HR's poison

This is covered in system messages link on page 1.
and was extensively covered in pregame.

review system messages for additional info.

Instructions unclear, going back to Stellaris and then returning in several hours with more blatantly incorrect role interaction theories

PM me for additional issues with setup and role interactions.

[worcej]

Also if damo is actually JOAT then he may have saved himself to protect against HR's poison

This is covered in system messages link on page 1.
and was extensively covered in pregame.

review system messages for additional info.

FWIW - your use of links to the pre-game thread are not a good tool for presenting information and you're bound to get direct questions because of it.

[Hamilton Brian]

In 7 scant hours, one of us might be dead.

I can't fuckin wait I hope it's me.

You'd know already if it was you.

I know ir's not me.

I would hope the expected party puts out their final thoughts in some cohesive manner...and if they're town, work with it. If they're mafia, work with that too.

But we don't even know if HR tried to poison anyone.

[damo666]

This type of posturing with lists of strong reads is something you love to do as scum though

It isn't a list of reads. It's a list of live players who are not quasi town clear (worcej) and not our only unexposed PR.

Why am I not on it?

Because you might be dragonbait. Thought that was obvious. The list of people that I suggest are the only votable people are those that are definitely not dragonbait.

[Hamilton Brian]

It isn't a list of reads. It's a list of live players who are not quasi town clear (worcej) and not our only unexposed PR.

Why am I not on it?

Because you might be dragonbait. Thought that was obvious. The list of people that I suggest are the only votable people are those that are definitely not dragonbait.

How are you so sure?

[DemonRHK]

##VOTE DemonRHK

y tho

He started the Chaqa wagon presumably knowing I was willing to YOLO join. He's returned to talking more, but he's not saying anything useful. Nobody seems interested in killing Perp, and I (shockingly) don't like the other two wagons, so I'm trying something new.

+1

[brainbomb]

Also if damo is actually JOAT then he may have saved himself to protect against HR's poison

This is covered in system messages link on page 1.
and was extensively covered in pregame.

review system messages for additional info.

FWIW - your use of links to the pre-game thread are not a good tool for presenting information and you're bound to get direct questions because of it.

In an effort to reduce inserting myself into the game unnecessarily I will take this criticism and refer you to page 1 for any additional questions you have about roles, messages, and interactions. for complaints about setup, format or GM execution feel free to PM me and I will offer kind words and effortful reconciliation.

[damo666]

a supposed 'PR' revealed EOD and scum uses their ability on worcej?

Presumably that together with killing HR is meant to confuse and they hope people will be daft enough to mk me.

What ability did you use and why?

I will reveal just before EON. Not before for obvious reasons.

[ghug]

If I am, let me relish in this power of leadership to return the favor to ghug for all the times he's been okay with me dying.

##vote ghug

It's not clear to me why you've so quickly flipped your opinion on me.

You seem to be blowing up one comment about information that you took to mean backwards looking (yes, there's information about D1 that we learn with damo's alignment, but we're guaranteed to get that information soon anyway) when it was meant forward-looking (i.e. today's VCA will become people who have a general opposition to killing un-CCed PRs vs. people who don't). It was also not my main argument against killing damo, and doesn't seem to warrant that drastic of a turn on its own.

It may only be sudden to you because of the time space between my posting, but in general I have not liked your D2 and I am looking back on your N1 posts to setup pushing targets that started wagons, which include people who shaded damo. It seems opportunistic and an intentional setup to drive votes.

You've effectively said flipping damo is bad information, when it's actually great information under the context of our typical scum meta, which is the most dependable meta we have here. Scum do not take unnecessary risks and letting the JOAT possibly execute one of their abilities is a huge risk, considering they are tracking and a motion detector (kinda like watching). Even under the guise of 'sowing confusion', it would be ridiculous to assume scum would take this risk on N1 when they are already disadvantaged with their 4th player being on an island and they cannot coordinate with them.

In general, you're trying to distract/refute content others are pushing forward instead of actually hunting. You're putting more effort into attacking my WIFOM with logic while selectively ignoring other obvious logic that blows your argument up.

How can you simultaneously claim I'm setting up wagons and that I'm not actively hunting? I'm spending more effort on developing townreads than scumreads, because that's what I always do, which I can see giving the impression of not hunting, but I'm not sure how you conclude that I spent the night trying to set up specific wagons when the only person I've actively pushed until 20 minutes ago is perp.

I don't really understand what point you're making about information. Again, it's not the primary reason I don't want to kill damo, and again, all I'm saying is that killing him means we don't get a normal EoD to analyze.

What logic am I ignoring that blows my arguments up?

[damo666]

secretly im hoping worcej is doing some genius play and he wasnt jailed at all

Eh... wish I could be as cool as Tom, but I'm just boring old me.

town leader, that's what you are this game

gawdelpus lol

[Hamilton Brian]

I think we can be fairly confident that damo is town, and this is before the suggestion of claiming something EON.

I'd say gimix is very town. They've got that new car interior smell.

I think worcej is as well, especially through today's comments. By association I'd link President Eden to them as well.

I disagree with them about the Damo flip. I think there's a pretty strong reason that Damo is town. As incomprehensible as it might be, ghug may have helped save Damo by sacrificing Chaqa who would have been an unknown anyway.