MAFIA 67 OFFICIAL GAME THREAD —//—//— CURSE OF THE AZURE BONDS [hidden]

[celaph]

I woke up today and my dog passed away unexpectedly in his sleep last night.

I'm sorry to hear that.

[celaph]

but I think DKing a null Vecna on D1 is a bad move.

Not always, sometimes it hits gold!

I'm sure it sometimes works. I just think that that expected value of DKing Vecna today to be negative.

[damo666]

gimix is town

For celaph.

To me the post smacks of newb town. It would be a bit too 'clever' for a newb scum imo. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

FWIW, having a day-chat for scum leads me to entertain anything possible for newb scum.

I'd forgotten about day chat but still would be a bit contrived imo.

[celaph]

How do you have so many reads already?

They're not really, though, are they? They're mostly nullish. To what might be your followup question as to why publish this? I think a) I wanted to challenge celaph on this idea that most of my posts are off topic and b) I wanted to at least get my thinking out there, as short as it might be, as a way to get started.

I don't see me getting killed today, but if I do? Something for town to go on.

Interesting. Does scum HB react this defensively? I'm inclined to think this is annoyed town, though still mostly null in my books.

[foodcoats]

The way this is hedged doesn't feel like scum hedging. Besides that Perp's activity so far feels a little forced. I don't agree with his reads and they strike me as simple.

So what are you saying here, celaph? What do you conclude? Why did you feel a need to comment?

One of his posts make me want to town lean him, many others make me want to scum lean him. Null overall at the moment and I think he's either newb town or scum.

Why are you complaining about me commenting on someone?

I’m not complaining, I’m trying to determine if you are scum. You spent a lot of breath to say not much of anything.

[foodcoats]

I must say I like Celaph's criterion, but wait, on that criterion I'm dead!

Nah, you're null.

Having null reads implies you have scum reads but you only posted “shalt not be killed” reads. It also implies your “shall not be killed” reads are town reads.

Is that correct?

If so, who are your scum reads?

[foodcoats]

People we probably shouldn't kill today:
celaph
worcej
ghug
demon
Macca
rdr

Humor me with an explanation on rdr and ghug.

I commented on them a little later to ghug that they're mostly on here for good player protection; nothing they've done is hugely AI, but nothing makes me want to kill them. Ghug's doing his usual mix of jokes, pressuring people, sharing his thoughts. Rdr's done a decent job challenging ideas like with your early comment on Damo. He hasn't posted many reads, but I don't think that's atypical for town rdr.

So you’re just saying you know these people better and would rather kill someone you don’t know as well.

[foodcoats]

I woke up today and my dog passed away unexpectedly in his sleep last night.

Shit man I’m sorry to hear that.

Hope you’re doing alright... my dogs are my family and I will lose it when they pass.

[Perplexity]

I’m not complaining, I’m trying to determine if you are scum. You spent a lot of breath to say not much of anything.

this is strange cause I was about to call celaph 'mega town' he just delivers with each post or maybe I enjoy his confidence

when will you obvtown, foodcoats?

[foodcoats]

Hot and spicy vote incoming.

##vote President Eden

To use something he once said about me: I expect more out of him than what is currently occurring. Being busy is fine, but still the 3 posts so far have been non-contributing.

To give him some reasonable excuse, Eden graduated law school yesterday and has a friend of ours in town as well as his family until tomorrow, so he has very very legitimate reasons to be MIA at the moment.

The only legitimate excuse is ANZAC Day.

[ghug]

You might be right? But is there value in using that "newness" as camouflage?

Your don't know they if you're new, though. It just feels like putting yourself out there for little benefit.

I'm assuming the first sentence was 'You don't know if they're new, though.'

If so - I agree. There have been a couple times where I've assumed 'new' and discounted someone when actually they were not new and playing a damn good game.

"You don't know that if you're new" actually.

[foodcoats]

I feel good about

##VOTE celaph

[ghug]

That's how you know I'm town

but incredibly true.

you gotta bold it, worcej and it needs to be on his own line

your vote

This is not true

[Perplexity]

Interesting. Does scum HB react this defensively? I'm inclined to think this is annoyed town

maybe I rushed, celaph, I shouldn't have called Hamilton 'town', what he did was reminiscent of what some scum do when pressured, aka post long lists.

Seen this tactic before, but I'm not FOS Hamilton

[President Eden]

Hot and spicy vote incoming.

##vote President Eden

To use something he once said about me: I expect more out of him than what is currently occurring. Being busy is fine, but still the 3 posts so far have been non-contributing.

Understandable have a nice day

[ghug]

you gotta bold it, worcej and it needs to be on his own line

your vote

Actually, what it most likely was is the bot didn't recognize that 'Perp' was shorthand for you yet. After his second vote, I think the bot 'learned' it.

No, the bot doesn't learn. It has the functionality to hard code special nicknames, and otherwise allows any unambiguous prefix of at least 3 letters.

[ghug]

Ok some activity at last. I gather the following:

No kill is off the agenda (worcej convinces)

lfischl apparently is pronouncable
gimix is newbtown
Vapor is perplexing
Worcej is playing his town game
Vecna remains annoying but I suspect this indicates VT
Everyone else is within normal meta.

Not willing to vote gimix, worcej or Vecna. I would be reluctant to vote demon because of D1 last game.

Other than that I could be convinced on anyone.

My vote remains on EMC for the timebeing.

Can I ask how my one counter argument completely stopped your no-NK discussion?

You brought the subject up, but seem to not have any interest in it...

My heart was never really in it and you reminded why it's a daft idea.

What about worcej was more convincing to you than other people's objections?

[Perplexity]

the reason I've posted too much, even tho I'm so uncertain D1, was because this is a bb game and he deserves activity. Not because of worcej

I will say that I'm shocked. Pre-game I was scared bomb would talk about 'pee' and he did just that in a post.

[ghug]

Can I ask how my one counter argument completely stopped your no-NK discussion?

You brought the subject up, but seem to not have any interest in it...

My heart was never really in it and you reminded why it's a daft idea.

Then why bring it up to begin with?

Also, random thought, anyone know what happened to bozo?

Maybe he decided he was done with us after ND left him out of a game he signed up for.

[President Eden]

Oh you can’t see the pics that’s right. I graduated yesterday, make sure to check back because there’s a really funny meme comparing my graduation getup to Lord Farquad from Shrek.

I got family and a good friend that all drove approximately a billion miles to the middle of nowhere AKA Oklahoma to visit
So while I am sort of reading and shitposting I ain’t gonna be here til day 2

I’m VT and temporarily useless and it’s day 1 so if I get domed that’s cool