MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[rdrivera2005]

I know there's a day to go but surely you can see the danger of the situation.

Town should could consolidate. Scum will have to bus.

Macca is today's vote. Last one on is scum.

Why not instead, pretend Macca is dead.

Now, vote your next highest read.

This is top strats.

If we’re going to kill Macca eventually anyway we gain nothing from killing Macca now.

Man saying kill is vulgar also.

Let’s shimmy ding dong not Macca

We need to either kill scum or no kill today. No kill is not a good tactic as scum will just kill one of the widely townread and we will have one town less tomorrow.

So, town should vote on who we think have most chance to be scum and we need to consolidate closer to EOD. At this point I think Macca has the most chance to be scum but if we have a majority in other wagon (that's not me) I will consolidate.

If we choose wrong we lose, if we chose right we have more info to make the same process tomorrow.

[rdrivera2005]

Why not instead, pretend Macca is dead.

Now, vote your next highest read.

This is top strats.

If we’re going to kill Macca eventually anyway we gain nothing from killing Macca now.

Man saying kill is vulgar also.

Let’s shimmy ding dong not Macca

This is bottom strats.

Knowing Macca's role (as I presume they are mafia) will be good information. If Macca has a valuable role, we can assume mafia have been making efforts to save them throughout the game. If macca has an invaluable role (say Driver), we can assume mafia have not been going out of their way to save them, etc.

Agree, but Driver is a really powerful role.

[Jamiet99uk]

Man saying kill is vulgar also.

Let’s shimmy ding dong not Macca

Have you been drinking?

[damo666]

Jamie is town based on basic logic.

If Jamie were scum, when he outed the WW, the Wolf would have told us he guessed VT on Jamie and was wrong. The WW knows both he and the town need to remove scum to win, so there would be no reason to lie. So when Jamie outs Hamilton and HB confirms he guessed Janitor on Jamie, this implicitly means Jamie is town because scum!Jamie would never out the Werewolf there.

TLDR:
- WW would have outed scumJamie in the hopes of potentially winning down the line, and has no reason to lie to cover for scumJamie

Very HB reliant theory

[damo666]

I know there's a day to go but surely you can see the danger of the situation.

Town should could consolidate. Scum will have to bus.

Macca is today's vote. Last one on is scum.

There's more than 24 hours left.

I'd like you to talk about your scum read on me.

You're just one of the possible 3rd/4th person

[damo666]

I know there's a day to go but surely you can see the danger of the situation.

Town should could consolidate. Scum will have to bus.

Macca is today's vote. Last one on is scum.

Why not instead, pretend Macca is dead.

Now, vote your next highest read.

##vote yav

[damo666]

Damo, you and everyone else need to completely remove Jamie from your PoE.

It is quite literally impossible for him to be scum in any world where logic exists.

Thanks Chakka, old buddy, old pal.

code?

[damo666]

Explain how I am scum.

I dare you.

Go on.

HR gave you such a role. Easy peasy.

Your only real defence is you outed ww.

Why as non-Jan scum would you not do that gambling HB didn't guess vt. He was way more likely to guess Jan.

And you think I'm bussing Bona pretty hard, and I've been giving my other scumbuddy Macca fairly consistent pressure/ abuse, and my anger towards Maniac was fake. All of this, you believe, yes?

It's possible. Just like me fakeclaiming RB N1 is possible.

[Jamiet99uk]

Damo, you and everyone else need to completely remove Jamie from your PoE.

It is quite literally impossible for him to be scum in any world where logic exists.

Thanks Chakka, old buddy, old pal.

code?

Yes, I'm signalling to my scum-buddy Chaqa that he should finally use the gun Vecna gave him, and shoot you in the face. Well done on decoding our shenanigans. You'd better put on your bulletproof vest, quick!

[Jamiet99uk]

Thanks Chakka, old buddy, old pal.

code?

Yes, I'm signalling to my scum-buddy Chaqa that he should finally use the gun Vecna gave him, and shoot you in the face. Well done on decoding our shenanigans. You'd better put on your bulletproof vest, quick!

(Just make sure you wear it over your face)

[Jamiet99uk]

And you think I'm bussing Bona pretty hard, and I've been giving my other scumbuddy Macca fairly consistent pressure/ abuse, and my anger towards Maniac was fake. All of this, you believe, yes?

It's possible. Just like me fakeclaiming RB N1 is possible.

Did you fakeclaim RB on N1, Damo?

[damo666]

Explain how I am scum.

I dare you.

Go on.

HR gave you such a role. Easy peasy.

Your only real defence is you outed ww.

Why as non-Jan scum would you not do that gambling HB didn't guess vt. He was way more likely to guess Jan.

You're in a tinfoil tunnel.

A tunfoil, f you will.

I'm just asking Jamie's question.

[damo666]

Why not instead, pretend Macca is dead.

Now, vote your next highest read.

This is top strats.

If we’re going to kill Macca eventually anyway we gain nothing from killing Macca now.

Man saying kill is vulgar also.

Let’s shimmy ding dong not Macca

We need to either kill scum or no kill today. No kill is not a good tactic as scum will just kill one of the widely townread and we will have one town less tomorrow.

So, town should vote on who we think have most chance to be scum and we need to consolidate closer to EOD. At this point I think Macca has the most chance to be scum but if we have a majority in other wagon (that's not me) I will consolidate.

If we choose wrong we lose, if we chose right we have more info to make the same process tomorrow.

Agreed

[damo666]

Thanks Chakka, old buddy, old pal.

code?

Yes, I'm signalling to my scum-buddy Chaqa that he should finally use the gun Vecna gave him, and shoot you in the face. Well done on decoding our shenanigans. You'd better put on your bulletproof vest, quick!

Can't catch me. There ain't 2 itemses

[damo666]

And you think I'm bussing Bona pretty hard, and I've been giving my other scumbuddy Macca fairly consistent pressure/ abuse, and my anger towards Maniac was fake. All of this, you believe, yes?

It's possible. Just like me fakeclaiming RB N1 is possible.

Did you fakeclaim RB on N1, Damo?

No.

[damo666]

It's possible. Just like me fakeclaiming RB N1 is possible.

Did you fakeclaim RB on N1, Damo?

No.

I'm towny town

[damo666]

Look, Bona may well be scum but imo less certain than Macca. Can we not just kill Macca and Yav first and see who is left?

[damo666]

##vote Macca

[foodcoats]

Look, Bona may well be scum but imo less certain than Macca. Can we not just kill Macca and Yav first and see who is left?

My problem is that this is a policy shimmydingdong more than anything else.
No one today has actually laid out a case on Macca unless I missed it. It’s basically “Macca lurked.”

And acting this way damo is bad for town.

WE WANT

INNNNN

FO-MAYSHUN

[Bonatogether]

The Brain/Kak/Demon scumreads
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I stand by my wording of incompetence. His reads, when given, had bad reasoning in a way that did not line up with my understanding of how town!demon plays.

The kgray/celaph scumreads
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The scummiest thing a person has done should be the indicator of how likely to be scum they are. A person who has obvtowned day after day is, by nature, obviously town, but a person who has a similar series of obvtowning but one very scummy post is most likely a scum with deep cover. Kgray's scummiest post is that one from d2, so that is the benchmark by which I judge her.

I feel like we've both seen a lot of very bad play before and I don't recall you using incompetent before, though it's possible that's just NAI.

I disagree and it feels like you're using your second argument here as cover. What did you think about Macca's very underwhelming catch-up? Why aren't they scum? In an opposite vein, I found Jamie's early game incredibly scummy, but ever since Maniac left he's looked super towny. Why can't your read change?

Am I not allowed to use new words? This whole "woah he said incompetent hes so scum" thing is frankly just stupid.

I did not mean people who did one scummy thing should be considered scum, but rather that should be the base point for considering if they are scum.

Macca
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Why would you have expected me to comment on those?
1) Yes, I do go back and forth on them.

a) Ok? When I was nk baiting I'm not going to question someone who agrees with my outward position.

b) Macca seemed to be doing fine on their own as a persistent almost-wagon. I believe it is town-driven because very few scum would repeatedly start the same wagon 3 days in a row.

c) Arguing over Macca was the first thing I did this game lol.

I call out these points in particular because I think that you're scum with Macca given y'alls interactions. You say that you think that their wagon is town-driven, but I didn't ask what you thought of their wagon. Do you think it's town pushing another town or town pushing a scum? If you think that town is pushing another town, then why aren't you trying to stop us?

At the end of the day I'm not sure. If I had to guess I'd say maybe town? Idk.

The main thing is the argument that their conversations with me look like scum theater doesn't hold water with me lol.