MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[celaph]

Do you mean early D3? I don't think Flum was scumread much D2. And assuming you did mean D3: you didn't think that Flum's push on you, based on brain allegedly crumbing a guilty on you, was scummy? Surely you know that brain couldn't have found anything conclusive against you. But you think it's towny for Flum to vote you presumably for that reason only?

No, D2. I'm a little surprised that you don't remember given that you participated early on. Flum's push of me early today didn't feel terrible given that it felt like he moved past it as soon as he realized that the mechanics and evidence as a whole didn't support him.

I generally agree with all of this except for Flum, who I’m... leery of.
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how could you look at flum and think yea thats natural... yea

He would be one of my top 3 shot targets, personally. Maybe #1.

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I trust brain, don't trust flum.

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eww tripple yikes

Flum you're trolling right?

Yikes. I know you're a sub Flum but this is the laziest garbage post I've seen this game.

Oh, lmao. Well I realized he was trolling (or, at least, that's what ghug said? And Flum didn't deny it) and then I got.... distracted

How can you say Flum moved past his scumread of you because he realized it wasn't mechanically supported? He never said why he lessened his scumread of you, or why he went back to scumreading you more.

He obviously started the day targeting me. It looks like it starts changing around when he comments he didn't notice the comment about Darg's house being empty. He's showing some uncertainty there. He then says that he's looked longer at Brain and his crumbs aren't making any sense and says that he should probably ignore them. He then goes on to ignore them. He hasn't brought up Brain's comments since and soon after moved his vote. His progression there feels very natural.

What concerns me about him are the other points that you've commented on. Particularly the way that it seemed he's walked back all that and voted for me when he became a wagon.

[Kakarroto]

And I want yavu answering why he thinks rd's vote looked so especially bad while saying nothing about hamilton then (the 4-3-3-3 thing as I said before).

Kakarroto, do you mind sharing what you are implying here? I assume you are referring to D1 voting?

Is this when Rivera votes for me after having been on Darg most of the day, while ... yeah, I just am not sure what you're pointing at.

yavu says this vote of rd is why he thinks rd is mafia (at least most of it), I was just pointing out that you did the same and asked him why he didn't give your D1 vote as reason to read you as mafia.

also, I think this reason is absolutely wrong, but if I'm overlooking something please point it out (actually everyone can point that out for me ... if I'm wrong)

[Maniac]

I’m going to catch up.

Why is flum suddenly taken the lead?

Macca is the best kill today, but I could get behind that.

[Kakarroto]

I scumread rdrivera and HB separately. If HB is scum, turning him into an alternative against Demon doesn't make any sense so rivera would be much safer, I would even put him on my townreads list.

Perhaps I am not fully understanding this. When Rivera drops the vote on me, it avoids making the Demon wagon even more concrete, right? It then presents 2 wagons tied for 3 votes. Wouldn't that allow scum to just drop a vote there and if one of those two wagons builds of steam allows Demon to escape Day 1.

Demon had a 50/50 chance at self-preservation and happened to land on Kak instead of me (which makes me consider Kak is confirmed town). Darg then made it a foregone conclusion.

Maniac looks really lousy here...but actually not. If Maniac were scum would they be interested in tying the Demon/Kak votes? Maniac, why'd you feel the need to have the 7th vote on Demon when they were set to be killed?

look at that ... what a manipulation

HAMILTON IS MAFIA

or else explain why you edited this were it looks like it's me saying "I sumread rdrivera and HB seperately" where I never actually held that thought?

##vote hamilton

[Hellenic Riot]

Day Three Vote Count 4.0:

Fluminator (6): kgray, dargorygel, rdrivera2005, damo666, Macca573, Hamilton Brian
celaph (4): Maniac, ghug, Fluminator, foodcoats
Maniac (3): celaph, Chaqa, Jamiet99uk
Macca573 (2): Kakarroto, yavuzovic
kgray (1): Bonatogether

Currently FLUMINATOR is set to be daykilled.

You have 55 minutes remaining.

[celaph]

I scumread rdrivera and HB separately. If HB is scum, turning him into an alternative against Demon doesn't make any sense so rivera would be much safer, I would even put him on my townreads list.

Perhaps I am not fully understanding this. When Rivera drops the vote on me, it avoids making the Demon wagon even more concrete, right? It then presents 2 wagons tied for 3 votes. Wouldn't that allow scum to just drop a vote there and if one of those two wagons builds of steam allows Demon to escape Day 1.

Demon had a 50/50 chance at self-preservation and happened to land on Kak instead of me (which makes me consider Kak is confirmed town). Darg then made it a foregone conclusion.

Maniac looks really lousy here...but actually not. If Maniac were scum would they be interested in tying the Demon/Kak votes? Maniac, why'd you feel the need to have the 7th vote on Demon when they were set to be killed?

look at that ... what a manipulation

HAMILTON IS MAFIA

or else explain why you edited this were it looks like it's me saying "I sumread rdrivera and HB seperately" where I never actually held that thought?

##vote hamilton

It's just that the quoting was messed up.

[foodcoats]

What do you mean by decisive wagons? The final DK vote? One was a mafia and one was a town. What kind of tricksiness would you be worried about and think you could infer specifically from those three sharing space on the final wagons?

I'll come back to this but I am digging into something else right now.

Never mind, I don't want to forget this. My peanut brain says the three landed on the same wagon; yes, one flipped scum and the other didn't. If you compare how D1 ended...it was pretty hectic and full of movement. Panic driven and bussing? D2? Seemed relatively more "chill" if I recall. Not true, going back to it, there were a couple of minutes left. I helped make Worcej a lead wagon with about 20 minutes to go. Ghug stepped off to do some flattening. With 2 minutes to go, Chaqa makes the move to make Worcej the day's choice.

Maybe the remaining scum team includes Chaqa, Flum, and Maniac.

At this stage I'd be good with a DK of one of those 3 and potentially Jamie. I am still trying to dig through kgray's output.

Sorry, why were you ever voting celaph? What made you decide to decisively put flum in the lead and remove celaph from your scum reads?

[Hamilton Brian]

look at that ... what a manipulation

HAMILTON IS MAFIA

or else explain why you edited this were it looks like it's me saying "I sumread rdrivera and HB seperately" where I never actually held that thought?

##vote hamilton

What the actual eff?

[Kakarroto]

Caught me

Hey Chaqa (greetings from my sister btw), do you think the gun should be used to flip ghug?

I wonder if Kakarroto received the gun and was being coy with his whole fake-play, either as town or as scum.

*giggles*

[Hamilton Brian]

I'll come back to this but I am digging into something else right now.

Never mind, I don't want to forget this. My peanut brain says the three landed on the same wagon; yes, one flipped scum and the other didn't. If you compare how D1 ended...it was pretty hectic and full of movement. Panic driven and bussing? D2? Seemed relatively more "chill" if I recall. Not true, going back to it, there were a couple of minutes left. I helped make Worcej a lead wagon with about 20 minutes to go. Ghug stepped off to do some flattening. With 2 minutes to go, Chaqa makes the move to make Worcej the day's choice.

Maybe the remaining scum team includes Chaqa, Flum, and Maniac.

At this stage I'd be good with a DK of one of those 3 and potentially Jamie. I am still trying to dig through kgray's output.

Sorry, why were you ever voting celaph? What made you decide to decisively put flum in the lead and remove celaph from your scum reads?

Voting for Celaph was based on a lot of what brain was putting out. If you catch my other post tracking brain's commentary around Celaph, you might come to the conclusion that I still regard Celaph with some hesitancy. The suggestion of Celaph no longer being a scumread was made in haste and without a full think-through.

[ghug]

Can we not kill Flum today?

[Jamiet99uk]

Hi someone who stole Jamiet's phone, could you give it back to him? Thanks.

My phone has not been stolen.

What is it about that post that you object to?

Because I don't remember you making fluffy posts like this while not catched up.

The scummy thing is dismissing Flum wagon with the Watcher thing, which isn't the reason for the votes on him and you should know better. If Flum flips scum my suspicions about you will get really high.

I didn't dismiss it.

I asked about it.

[Jamiet99uk]

Can we not kill Flum today?

By all means, please vote for Maniac.

[ghug]

Can we not kill Flum today?

By all means, please vote for Maniac.

Ok ##VOTE maniac

Still more than happy to go back to celaph if people are inclined.

[Jamiet99uk]

Hi someone who stole Jamiet's phone, could you give it back to him? Thanks.

My phone has not been stolen.

What is it about that post that you object to?

I'm not convinced you go to the gym. You seem more like the sort that takes up running inconsistently.

Apart from recent interruptions due to lockdown, I have been going to the gym two to three times every week for nearly three years. I can back squat 110 kgs (242lbs) for moderate volume and my max deadlift is 145 kgs (320 lbs).

Today I did a 1hr 20min session including back squats, pendlay rows, dumbbell snatches, and machine rows superset with press-ups.

Running is boring. Lifting weights is cool.

[Hamilton Brian]

Altight, it's likely between those two.

##Vote Maniac

It's not a save of Flum. Both are fine options today, and leave Celaph for later.

[Jamiet99uk]

Hey it's tied.

Where is Bona? He likes it when the vote is tied.

[Chaqa]

Can we not kill Flum today?

No.

[Jamiet99uk]

Can we not kill Flum today?

No.

You are voting for the counter-wagon to Flum so that's a weird comment.

[ghug]

Altight, it's likely between those two.

##Vote Maniac

It's not a save of Flum. Both are fine options today, and leave Celaph for later.

It's a save of celaph though.