MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[Bonatogether]

who said he didn't? maybe he was saved. Maybe he wasn't town but is mafia. Maybe he is werewolf.

I think the ww did take a shot at Maniac, so either:
a) he got doc saved
b) he's not VT who's really eager to make everyone think he is

Why are you so confident werewolf would try for Maniac?

VT is most likely and it was plausible.

[kgray]

I am the werewolf.

and the reason I am claiming is because I really doubt I can win this anyway. My n1 I was not confident enough to go after darg due to watcher fears so I chose instead to go after celaph. I guessed something and it failed.

Conspiracies are probably made already but I will take my chance before reading them.
This probably means his N1 target was celaph and he didn't find anything useful. This doesn't clear celaph at all. This is probably why brain also said that he would be killed because he was generally townread. I don't know if it's true, his wagon reached 3 votes near the end of D1. Maybe he was stalked? Even if it's true, this doesn't give us an idea about scum. I don't think there is much brain saw, unfortunately.

Brain couldn't have been stalked, we killed the stalker D1.

[ghug]

##vote Celaph

I think the only way that Brainbomb can be confident that Celaph is scum is if BB watched Vecna and Celaph did the killing.

If BB watched anyone else and received a report that Celaph visited, he couldn't possibly know that celaph wasn't a PR.

You think brain could have seen celaph visiting Vecna the night he died and not said so?

What I know is that brain seemed pretty confident about scum celaph, and I'm seeing a different celaph, so I want to kill him.

[ghug]

It's my 40th birthday though so I'm kinda drunk.

[kgray]

Devolving into "feels like scum!someone," keeps us off the investigating.

Focusing on it derails town.

Scum would also avoid making me a wagon. I think i have history on my side there. Kind of clears Yav. Ghug I expect better from.

Why would scum avoid making you a wagon? I've gone after you as a miskill target as scum.

[kgray]

No, please elaborate. Otherwise it's just a lazy... Yeah, I don't know what to call it.

I don't know whether you are serious but ok:
That suggestion is more likely to come to a mafia member's head. Why would a townie think about how WW can help the scum?

For one moment consider the fact that as a player I have avoided games with, or have not been, a 3P. The vanilla game, as it is, confounds me. Adding a layer of PR and 3P scares the shit out of me. So I ask questions, as dumb as they seem, to grow/learn with. Welcome to HB playing mafia. I bring the collective IQ down about 50 points.

Okay but now it feels like you're making up for the overconfidence that ghug just called you on.

[kgray]

why are you so unhappy I didn't get dked?

I'm not, but you seemed really sketchy to me at EOD and Rivera had previously scumread you while townreading worcej. He also shaded me for joining worcej's wagon instead of saving him, but then he did nothing to either save himself or make a decision to keep worcej over you.

Why are you so unhappy with me questioning Rivera?

I have made no comment about you question rdr, but you asked several questions (iirc) in this vein.

Yeah, I repeat my questions when people don't answer them. As you know, since I've asked you 5 times now why you thought worcej's D1 vote for Hamilton was towny.

[kgray]

##vote Celaph

I think the only way that Brainbomb can be confident that Celaph is scum is if BB watched Vecna and Celaph did the killing.

If BB watched anyone else and received a report that Celaph visited, he couldn't possibly know that celaph wasn't a PR.

You think brain could have seen celaph visiting Vecna the night he died and not said so?

What I know is that brain seemed pretty confident about scum celaph, and I'm seeing a different celaph, so I want to kill him.

Fine. I'm still not seeing what I think of as scum!celaph, but I admit he's been underwhelming.

##vote celaph

[kgray]

It's my 40th birthday though so I'm kinda drunk.

Ooh top 3 scumreads and why, please!

[celaph]

It's my 40th birthday though so I'm kinda drunk.

Happy birthday!

[ghug]

You think brain could have seen celaph visiting Vecna the night he died and not said so?

What I know is that brain seemed pretty confident about scum celaph, and I'm seeing a different celaph, so I want to kill him.

Fine. I'm still not seeing what I think of as scum!celaph, but I admit he's been underwhelming.

##vote celaph

Wtf you were so ready to defend him yesterday.

[kgray]

What I know is that brain seemed pretty confident about scum celaph, and I'm seeing a different celaph, so I want to kill him.

Fine. I'm still not seeing what I think of as scum!celaph, but I admit he's been underwhelming.

##vote celaph

Wtf you were so ready to defend him yesterday.

Yeah and I kinda feel like I fought harder for him than he did.

[ghug]

It's my 40th birthday though so I'm kinda drunk.

Ooh top 3 scumreads and why, please!

My POE right now is like Flum, celaph, Chaqa, Brian, Jamie, Macca, Maniac, Rd, yav

Celaph, Jamie, Maniac, I suppose?

I was trying to scumread you and brain but he's dead and I'm tired of scumreading you.

[ghug]

It's my 40th birthday though so I'm kinda drunk.

Happy birthday!

Omg you think I'm 40?

[Maniac]

It's my 40th birthday though so I'm kinda drunk.

Happy birthday!

Omg you think I'm 40?

Yeah Celaph whatever gave you the impression Ghug is 40?

[Fluminator]

It's my 40th birthday though so I'm kinda drunk.

Happy birthday!

Aww, you're going to make ghug so happy you let him trim a few years.

[yavuzovic]

I don't think the Janitor will be doing the kill with a Ninja around. And Vecna wasn't Janitored so this makes no sense.
And if he saw me doing a kill why he didn't even vote for me D2?

It's look a lot like you tryng to find reasons to justify your scum read on me and not an organic analysis of Brain's flip. Like that game you were scum with ND...

I mean, you're right about janitor to stay down while ninja is around. But wouldn't I say something more about this if I was trying to find reasons to justify my scumread on you? You're chasing a careless message with 2 lines. My scumread on you is mostly based on your D1 vote, not what brain said. And if that's what you want to hear: I retract any arguments who say rivera is scum because BB observed him move. I really don't think that's the case. Rivera is still scum though. ##vote rdrivera

[yavuzovic]

No, please elaborate. Otherwise it's just a lazy... Yeah, I don't know what to call it.

I don't know whether you are serious but ok:
That suggestion is more likely to come to a mafia member's head. Why would a townie think about how WW can help the scum?

For one moment consider the fact that as a player I have avoided games with, or have not been, a 3P. The vanilla game, as it is, confounds me. Adding a layer of PR and 3P scares the shit out of me. So I ask questions, as dumb as they seem, to grow/learn with. Welcome to HB playing mafia. I bring the collective IQ down about 50 points.

It wasn't dumb, I just think it's much more likely to be thought by a mafia than a town.

[yavuzovic]

Brain couldn't have been stalked, we killed the stalker D1.

Yeah sorry, I was careless.

[damo666]

@Maniac what are you talking about?

If he watched himself and got a report that celaph had visited he couldn't tell if celaph was driver or doc.

Yes he could. HR has just confirmed that if BB watched himself is he told "BB visited BB"

But if Driver visits, he is told "BB visited Player C (the other person Driver visited) AND Celaph visited Player C.

OK but if brain had anything this specific he would have yelled it so we can dismiss it.