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Re: MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

#2861 Post by Chaqa » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:52 pm

celaph wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:41 pm
Treat as town for now:
ghug — Assuming Darg is town, ghug is very likely town and we should deal with any potential gf/ww later down the line as necessary. Even if Darg is scum there is a fair chance that ghug is town.
Darg — Short term, should be treated as a cop.

Town read:
kak — If this is scum kak, it’s a clean game so far. He handled the gun claim really naturally. That said, if that continues to be the best thing he’s done this spot is probably worth another look. His reads haven’t been all there and his D1 was lackluster. I would also like to see more come from his gun claim than just making himself look good.
kgray — This feels like normal town kgray. She’s succinct, precise, asking the right questions. She needs to start giving herself more credit for her play. gl town and sheep kgray. :)
Chaqa — Maybe I just like that he’s been defending me, but I’ve been surprised by how reasonable he’s felt. He’s made some good arguments regarding town reading kak and while I disagree with his early suspicion of darg today, I feel like it was coming from a reasonable perspective. My only concern is that the way he’s been defending the Demon voters reminds me of how he defended the teacon voters in M62.

Town lean:
Brain — Brain’s posted a lot of content of varying quality and has clearly put a lot of time into the game. What concerns me is how imprecise he’s been at times like how his justification for initially voting kak was poor. That said, in fairness to Brain I don’t think kak was a bad wagon D1 and his probably looks worse in hindsight as kak has since improved.
Food — I’m liking food in the same way I liked scum Bona in that they are both acting carefree and weird, but also in a way that I absolutely don’t expect scum to act. I was more suspicious here when he was pushing against Darg as that felt anti-town, but I’m liking his mindset more now. ghug’s had quite reasonable views of him so far.
Flum — My immediate impressions on the way he's jumping from one sus to the next feel like natural town Flum. He’s a poor kill today.
Bona — As kgray has noted, he’s been attentive and precise. He’s asked good questions and challenged people well. He was on the right wagon D1. My only concern with him is how simple his susses and reads have been. D1 it felt that he townread the people that agreed with him and/or criticized brain. D2 he’s made his vote today about clearing me.

Null:
Worcej — It doesn’t feel like he’s playing in a way that is particularly pro-town or sharp. For better or for worse, his argument with kgray reminded me of M62. I just don’t know if that is particularly alignment indicative.
Yavu + Macca — Very little from either of them. The one thing that bothers me about Yavu is that of his 5 posts today, 1 is voting for Maniac and another is defending him. That said, given that it sounds like he’s sick he can hopefully get a replacement.
Rdr — Coming off a game where I agreed heavily with this man, I don’t feel like we’re on the same wavelength at the moment. I remember nothing from his D1 though he’s had a couple nice posts this day. In general, it’s hard to read him with all the inactivity.
Jamie — Remarkably forgettable.

Scum lean:
HB — He’s been more aggressive than I expected particularly with rdr. I’ve found their interactions as a whole off-putting, but of the two I prefer rdr at the moment. His comment on demon near EoD1 didn’t really push him and he ended up on brain.
Maniac -- I see why Maniac is scummy, but it feels like this wagon is motived equally by Maniac’s inactivity. Not a sexy wagon by any stretch of the imagination.
Damo — I posted more in depth about Damo and my concerns with him earlier.
:sick: :sick: :sick:

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Re: MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

#2862 Post by Chaqa » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:53 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:57 pm

Chaqa — Maybe I just like that he’s been defending me, but I’ve been surprised by how reasonable he’s felt. He’s made some good arguments regarding town reading kak
Why would it suprise you that chaqa would be reasonable?
Me? Reasonable???

Also, I'm not sure how I'm defending celaph... I just wanted someone to explain the case on him. Now, I'm beginning to see it, though.

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Re: MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

#2863 Post by kgray » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:54 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:53 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:57 pm

Chaqa — Maybe I just like that he’s been defending me, but I’ve been surprised by how reasonable he’s felt. He’s made some good arguments regarding town reading kak
Why would it suprise you that chaqa would be reasonable?
Me? Reasonable???

Also, I'm not sure how I'm defending celaph... I just wanted someone to explain the case on him. Now, I'm beginning to see it, though.
What is it that you're seeing? :sick: :sick: :sick: isn't a very compelling argument.

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Re: MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

#2864 Post by ghug » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:55 pm

damo666 wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:56 am
Reasons for no gunshot

Vecna was RBd => Jamie lying scum
Gun not yet fired (most probable reason)
Vecna made something else?
Vecna failed to invent/give - can be ignored.

I hard claim no item.
I'm wondering why either of you would bother fakeclaiming roleblock if you'd known you'd actually RBed Vecna.

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#2865 Post by damo666 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:55 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:41 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:36 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:30 pm


I am completelly sure at least half the scum team is voting me now.
So you think there's 2+ scum in Maniac/damo/flum/me? Just to be clear?
Yes. Damo I am pretty sure. Maniac somehow improved a bit, so maybe he is town. But your readlist and an opportunistic vote on me while also buddying Brain so you can jump on Celaph wagon if needed made me have a pretty solid scumread of you.
Flum I really don´t know, he got a pass from bein a sub, but done nothing today. Great candidate to be shot if somehow there is a gun or to be cop scanned.
Why?

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#2866 Post by Chaqa » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:58 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:28 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:15 pm
Do people really think scum would roleblock Vecna though if they're killing him?
It's been a standard Scum play for some time on this site, so, uh, yes.
I don't get why you would ever waste the RB on someome you're killing.

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#2867 Post by brainbomb » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:59 pm

darg if youd like another research project look up celaph games where they use the words scum and scummy

and how often they note something as scum or scummy

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Re: MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

#2868 Post by damo666 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:59 pm

ghug wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:55 pm
damo666 wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:56 am
Reasons for no gunshot

Vecna was RBd => Jamie lying scum
Gun not yet fired (most probable reason)
Vecna made something else?
Vecna failed to invent/give - can be ignored.

I hard claim no item.
I'm wondering why either of you would bother fakeclaiming roleblock if you'd known you'd actually RBed Vecna.
I claimed first so if Jamie is scum and they RBd Vecna Jamie would know I was RBd by town and if that were to come to light his claim looks like he was RBd by scum and thus gets towncred.

I'm not saying I think this is what happened but it's possible.

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#2869 Post by Chaqa » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:01 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:03 pm
dargorygel wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:58 pm
@bona
Please refrain from this kind of comment:
The only other explanation is if you are autistic in some way, and I say that with no mean spiritedness or crudeness intended. I will adjust to your statements appropriately if you are on the spectrum.

Thanks
I didn't make that comment you jerk
Maybe Dargo is acoustic

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#2870 Post by dargorygel » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:01 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:58 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:28 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:15 pm
Do people really think scum would roleblock Vecna though if they're killing him?
It's been a standard Scum play for some time on this site, so, uh, yes.
I don't get why you would ever waste the RB on someome you're killing.
One reason: to stop the target from using a power before they die.

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#2871 Post by ghug » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:01 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:12 pm
Macca573 wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:03 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:00 pm


so yea thats the cop
youre gonna leave your vote on the cop
Where I'm up to, he's no longer the cop. And even if he reclaimed, I wouldn't believe him (barring exceptional circumstances).
hes cop
he inno scanned ghug
You know I'm town, do you?

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#2872 Post by damo666 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:02 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:58 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:28 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:15 pm
Do people really think scum would roleblock Vecna though if they're killing him?
It's been a standard Scum play for some time on this site, so, uh, yes.
I don't get why you would ever waste the RB on someome you're killing.
Well people are assuming Vena could have given away his invention were he not roleblocked so that's possibly a reason.

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#2873 Post by ghug » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:02 pm

damo666 wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:26 pm
Surely scumManiac would have claimed missingPR rather than VT?

Only discussing Jamie wrt to RB claim and not me is odd. Possible explanations are:

i) Maniac is scum and was therefore conscious of Jamie being RBd
ii) Maniac is town but only noticed Jamie's claim and not mine (possible as he seems obsessed with J for some reason).

Perhaps Town RBer should say who they role blocked. If they roleblocked Jamie that gets rid of option i) above
You want a PR to claim over this??

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#2874 Post by Chaqa » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:03 pm

kgray wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:54 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:53 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:57 pm


Why would it suprise you that chaqa would be reasonable?
Me? Reasonable???

Also, I'm not sure how I'm defending celaph... I just wanted someone to explain the case on him. Now, I'm beginning to see it, though.
What is it that you're seeing? :sick: :sick: :sick: isn't a very compelling argument.
That whole reads list just read poorly. No exact detail.

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#2875 Post by foodcoats » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:04 pm

kgray wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:43 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:41 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:36 pm


So you think there's 2+ scum in Maniac/damo/flum/me? Just to be clear?
Yes. Damo I am pretty sure. Maniac somehow improved a bit, so maybe he is town. But your readlist and an opportunistic vote on me while also buddying Brain so you can jump on Celaph wagon if needed made me have a pretty solid scumread of you.
Flum I really don´t know, he got a pass from bein a sub, but done nothing today. Great candidate to be shot if somehow there is a gun or to be cop scanned.
This is almost exactly how I feel about Bona right now. Doesn't hurt that he can't explain his townread of my biggest scumread, and is avoiding questions about it.

##vote bona
I think kgray is town and all but I don't like the move from one vanity wagon to another. Looks fake.

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#2876 Post by damo666 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:04 pm

ghug wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:01 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:12 pm
Macca573 wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 12:03 pm


Where I'm up to, he's no longer the cop. And even if he reclaimed, I wouldn't believe him (barring exceptional circumstances).
hes cop
he inno scanned ghug
You know I'm town, do you?
ghug the werewolf smarty pants playing with fire here?

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#2877 Post by rdrivera2005 » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:04 pm

damo666 wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:55 pm
rdrivera2005 wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:41 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:36 pm


So you think there's 2+ scum in Maniac/damo/flum/me? Just to be clear?
Yes. Damo I am pretty sure. Maniac somehow improved a bit, so maybe he is town. But your readlist and an opportunistic vote on me while also buddying Brain so you can jump on Celaph wagon if needed made me have a pretty solid scumread of you.
Flum I really don´t know, he got a pass from bein a sub, but done nothing today. Great candidate to be shot if somehow there is a gun or to be cop scanned.
Why?
Because the way you are playing remembers scum Damo. I can´t identify with anything you say. Your post just seems to make sense when you talk about mechanics and this is a strong scum tell.
You arbitrary created a POE that´s me, Yav and Flum, which doesn´t make any sense (like you want to look like town Damo that makes a lot of assumptions) and you left of the hook a lot of scummy players like Bona or Macca. And then you give a pass to Flum because he is willing to vote me or Yav, which even less sense.

And last of it, OMGUS.

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#2878 Post by Chaqa » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:05 pm

dargorygel wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:01 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:58 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:28 pm


It's been a standard Scum play for some time on this site, so, uh, yes.
I don't get why you would ever waste the RB on someome you're killing.
One reason: to stop the target from using a power before they die.
Hmm...

I have a theory now.

What if they intended to Janitor Vecna, and their Janitor got roleblocked?

Jamie or Damo

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#2879 Post by kgray » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:05 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:03 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:54 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:53 pm


Me? Reasonable???

Also, I'm not sure how I'm defending celaph... I just wanted someone to explain the case on him. Now, I'm beginning to see it, though.
What is it that you're seeing? :sick: :sick: :sick: isn't a very compelling argument.
That whole reads list just read poorly. No exact detail.
Well that's incredibly lazy and makes me think you're setting up a way to jump onto a wagon that has momentum.

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Re: MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

#2880 Post by dargorygel » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:05 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:59 pm
darg if youd like another research project look up celaph games where they use the words scum and scummy

and how often they note something as scum or scummy
Mebbe... But only after I see if Maniac ever refers to himself as handsome when he is town.

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