MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[brainbomb]

it takes a very cool cellected patient personality to survive unclaimed deep into a game

fox comes to mind last game

[Kakarroto]

Will somebody talk to me about worcej? I think he's contributed nothing to this game besides starting drama and I think he's scum, but I also am suspicious that my emotions are getting in the way.

I think Hamilton is remarkably nonchalant about kak's gun and I can't decide whether that's townie or if there's something more behind it.

I legitimately think ghug is scum.

I had a gross feeling that food's been trying to set me up, but he's not harping on it as much as I originally thought he would be.

concerning worcej: he could be, yes, though there are also some things that look towny on him, but, as I said, I could be wrong either way.

concerning Hamilton: I'm not too sure either, depends on a few factors and I'd like to see more. I'm tending right now seeing him in a more shady light.

concerning ghug: except a few minor things ghug looks somewhat towny to me. That's probably why he is mafia, since that's exactly what happened in that one game *shudders*

concerning food: I don't know why some of you read him that bad (especially some good town reads of me), he looks pretty towny. Not my top town read, but I have a good feeling.

concerning hobbits: now that is a way to start a book.

[ghug]

it takes a very cool cellected patient personality to survive unclaimed deep into a game

fox comes to mind last game

I'm the priest.

[yavuzovic]

A few things:

I started to think again about Maniac's vote yesterday and it was indeed very scummy. But would a mafia member risk being exposed? It's so scummy that it feels something a scum wouldn't do. A wagon that large makes me worry. I can go with rivera. I know it's still early and things can change. Let's try rivera as well.

I don't know if dargo is actually cop or a town who periodically claims to confuse scum but it's even better to keep this uncertain. I'm sure that scum is very confused at the moment.

I talked to HR about a replacement. Pardon my absence but I probably got some popular virus. I will stay in the game until HR replaces me though.

[brainbomb]

I ain't a thug, how much 2Pac in you you got?

[worcej]

For being towny af?

Eh, let's delve into this. How is what Kak did towny?

It generated reactions and was certain to make many people upset with him, which are not things scum tend to want to do.

You have experience with Kak, do you think he would not have the ability to do this as scum?

[brainbomb]

I dont remember kak all that well. he used to have really huge posts and it was a ton to read

[ghug]

Eh, let's delve into this. How is what Kak did towny?

It generated reactions and was certain to make many people upset with him, which are not things scum tend to want to do.

You have experience with Kak, do you think he would not have the ability to do this as scum?

Ability, maybe. Inclination not so much.

[Kakarroto]

Ok… in for a vote.

Some general observations. Not organized as reads… but there is a chance I’m going to be the target of kak’s gun. (See below) so here’s my comments.

I am not excited about maniac’s lack of involvement. Again, though, I think maniac is a better player than to lurk THIS much as scum. Maybe ww, I suppose. But even so, lately we’ve been more harsh on lurkers. I don’t see him doing this.

I think Jamie, as scum, would not press against me so much. I’m agonna die. He would let it happen. I feel similarly about food.

Both Jamie and brain are squabbling with each other, and reading each other in the worst possible light. Which makes me lean town on both of them.

The suspicions about celaph are valid. His posts are agreeable, nodding across the table from whomever is speaking.

I could vote for bona, still. Kgray is drawing attention to herself with her hurt feelings, which I don’t think she’d do as scum.

Ghug is solvey.

The rest haven’t stood out to me.

But kak either has a gun, or he’s scum. I already was scumreading him, so this vote makes sense to me. If he shoots someone, I’ll move my vote, likely. Although vecna MIGHT have accidentally gunned up a scum.

##VOTE kakarroto

If dargo isn't town, he fooled me. I mean his last conclusion is wrong, but understandable.

Also, as I said, at D2 with that cop claim (and retracting it because of I know why at night), I would've NEVER shot you if I'm town. Hmm ... reading this just now I don't think you would be convinced or assured at all since you think ... ah anyway, thanks for giving your thoughts of jamiet, I might be really wrong on my roleblock theory.

Well, looks like we can agree to most reads (I'm still a bit suspect of jamiet lying though, but not as much as before. And of course I'm town)

[brainbomb]

https://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=48498

we need 2 more
please join

the password is socks

[dargorygel]

Hmmm
Changing my mind

[Kakarroto]

I think Hamilton is remarkably nonchalant about kak's gun and I can't decide whether that's townie or if there's something more behind it.

Honestly, K, I just don't understand the gun and I haven't taken the time to read up on it.

I know I shouldn't post replies in quotes but I just wanted to address each point.

understand in how it works ( *phtk* *phtk* ) or understand in why I chose to pretend to have it?

because the first one is quite easy to understand, not gonna lie.

[dargorygel]

A few things:

I started to think again about Maniac's vote yesterday and it was indeed very scummy. But would a mafia member risk being exposed? It's so scummy that it feels something a scum wouldn't do. A wagon that large makes me worry. I can go with rivera. I know it's still early and things can change. Let's try rivera as well.

I don't know if dargo is actually cop or a town who periodically claims to confuse scum but it's even better to keep this uncertain. I'm sure that scum is very confused at the moment.

I talked to HR about a replacement. Pardon my absence but I probably got some popular virus. I will stay in the game until HR replaces me though.

Feel better? Tell us if you are scum before you leave

[Kakarroto]

But kak either has a gun, or he’s scum. I already was scumreading him, so this vote makes sense to me. If he shoots someone, I’ll move my vote, likely. Although vecna MIGHT have accidentally gunned up a scum.

##VOTE kakarroto

Was considering this as well. It's a ploy or it's true. I've equivocated on Kak this whole game. Times I've thought them townie, times it's seemed not-town, so they're still a hard null...unfortunately.

"kakarroto is the definition of null. this guy could be mafia world champion for all i know" teacon, Nov 21 2016

"Also - I really, really like Kaka's fakeclaim coming into EoN
He hasn't been great at scumreading so far this game, but that was a fantastic move and had a chance at keeping the confirmed town PR alive, which would have left someone that town could 100% trust to follow
It's not something I would expect a new player to think of or do, so I'm pretty impressed by it" - CaptainMeme, Nov 19 2016"

*humble brag*

[Kakarroto]

Ok… in for a vote.

Some general observations. Not organized as reads… but there is a chance I’m going to be the target of kak’s gun. (See below) so here’s my comments.

I am not excited about maniac’s lack of involvement. Again, though, I think maniac is a better player than to lurk THIS much as scum. Maybe ww, I suppose. But even so, lately we’ve been more harsh on lurkers. I don’t see him doing this.

I think Jamie, as scum, would not press against me so much. I’m agonna die. He would let it happen. I feel similarly about food.

Both Jamie and brain are squabbling with each other, and reading each other in the worst possible light. Which makes me lean town on both of them.

The suspicions about celaph are valid. His posts are agreeable, nodding across the table from whomever is speaking.

I could vote for bona, still. Kgray is drawing attention to herself with her hurt feelings, which I don’t think she’d do as scum.

Ghug is solvey.

The rest haven’t stood out to me.

But kak either has a gun, or he’s scum. I already was scumreading him, so this vote makes sense to me. If he shoots someone, I’ll move my vote, likely. Although vecna MIGHT have accidentally gunned up a scum.

##VOTE kakarroto

I don't know what darg is like as scum but this screams town to me.

are you pocketing me? are you really pocketing me?

because if you did with all D1, it worked.

[Kakarroto]

And non-bussers mafia are 3 from the remaining twelve players. Much more chance of finding scum here even if we throw a dart.

So what do you think about this group of non-Vecna voters? Brainbomb, Damo (who rested on Kak all day), Darg, ghug, jamie, kak, macca, rdr, worcej, Yav, and myself

non vecna? don't you mean non demon? *confused confusing* is this a trick question?

[foodcoats]

So was it determined yet whether kgray or worcej can piss further or I should I check back later?

[Bonatogether]

##vote celaph for competitive wagons

[Kakarroto]

maniac actually seems okay to me

he just did one post

where he asked about role blocking

which hamilton answered within 3 minutes

and 3 minutes later hamiltio asked him about the non vecna voters

hows does maniac look okay to you after that?

do I miss something here?

[Kakarroto]

@Jamie
It hinges on the fact that I was going to be gone all afternoon. The momentum felt, on my read, to be heading my way.

But if you are right, why would I do this as scum? That wouldn't make any sense either.

I WILL do what town wants. Of course, some of you aren't town. So can y'all give me a consensus?

Someone (I don't recall who) wrote that I should reveal if the person I investigated is a lead wagon. That makes sense.

It appears you are claiming Cop again since you're saying you have a scan.
So you want us to believe all of the following:

1. You claimed Cop because you're actually the Cop and four votes on you caused you to shit yourself in terror, AND:
2. You then retracted your claim during the night but somehow still hoped scum would NK you, AND:
3. You've now revived your claim again and you're claiming you can clear someone, AND:
4. You want town to endhammer you if we don't believe you.

Looking at all this, I feel like the only explanations are either (a) you've played very badly, or (b) you're scum.

Maybe I have too much respect for you.

2 is wrong. He was ostensibly hoping to avoid the nightkill. Really only the first step didn't make sense, and it made equally little sense as scum or town.

I agree with ghug on 2. Concerning 1, yes, I believe he is cop and yes, it wasn't the optimal play but I also understand darg's perspective. Stop making him feel bad, because that just emphazises my bad read (because he's cop)