MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[brainbomb]

Brain, did you learn anything from the survey you were conducting earlier?

yes

[damo666]

I dont think we are

Hmm okay. So if we’re in 3... maybe darg and vecna were swapped? Ah my brain hurts.

Even if you're taking brain at face value, why would you assume 3 and not 5?

because he's Journo or Gf

[celaph]

Aye. Throw Maniac in as well, and you have the 8 I want to flip two of todayz

Hoping there is a gun.

IF the person is in the list, you are saying i should reveal before the shooter shoots?

What do others think about that?

Chaqa's list is not gospel.

I still think you should be claiming your scan now, so as not to give you time to think of another one if you are lying. If the consensus is to wait, you should claim it when the person is at risk of daykill or gunkill, or at EoN otherwise.

What do you mean, another one? He only needs to claim one scan.

[Hamilton Brian]

HB can you speak to why you both trust brain to be town and have the correct takes?

I trust brain to be town for the amount of work being put in. It's not all 100% pertinent but there's a lot going on. Correct takes? I'd say not all of their takes are correct, but the only takes that are spot on are the scum takes. The rest of are going to have some mistakes in with the successes.

[damo666]

darg is unccd with an inno scan and was not even rbd

?

[brainbomb]

celaph did you learn anything from my survey?

[ghug]

@Jamie
It hinges on the fact that I was going to be gone all afternoon. The momentum felt, on my read, to be heading my way.

But if you are right, why would I do this as scum? That wouldn't make any sense either.

I WILL do what town wants. Of course, some of you aren't town. So can y'all give me a consensus?

Someone (I don't recall who) wrote that I should reveal if the person I investigated is a lead wagon. That makes sense.

It appears you are claiming Cop again since you're saying you have a scan.
So you want us to believe all of the following:

1. You claimed Cop because you're actually the Cop and four votes on you caused you to shit yourself in terror, AND:
2. You then retracted your claim during the night but somehow still hoped scum would NK you, AND:
3. You've now revived your claim again and you're claiming you can clear someone, AND:
4. You want town to endhammer you if we don't believe you.

Looking at all this, I feel like the only explanations are either (a) you've played very badly, or (b) you're scum.

Maybe I have too much respect for you.

2 is wrong. He was ostensibly hoping to avoid the nightkill. Really only the first step didn't make sense, and it made equally little sense as scum or town.

[celaph]

HB can you speak to why you both trust brain to be town and have the correct takes?

I trust brain to be town for the amount of work being put in. It's not all 100% pertinent but there's a lot going on. Correct takes? I'd say not all of their takes are correct, but the only takes that are spot on are the scum takes. The rest of are going to have some mistakes in with the successes.

For one I know this to be false, but I'm curious why you think that all of brain's takes on scum are spot on.

[ghug]

Which idea? voting worcej?

shooting at mid day today and declaring it

Wait, brain... can *you* see into the future?? lmao

He just confused you with me.

[celaph]

celaph did you learn anything from my survey?

I did not. Care to elaborate what you did learn from it?

[Hamilton Brian]

HB can you speak to why you both trust brain to be town and have the correct takes?

I trust brain to be town for the amount of work being put in. It's not all 100% pertinent but there's a lot going on. Correct takes? I'd say not all of their takes are correct, but the only takes that are spot on are the scum takes. The rest of are going to have some mistakes in with the successes.

For one I know this to be false, but I'm curious why you think that all of brain's takes on scum are spot on.

Wht do you mean false? And have I implied that all of brain's takes on scum are 100% Not sure what you're getting at here.

[celaph]

darg is unccd with an inno scan and was not even rbd

?

I investigated someone, obviously, last night and came up with a result that the person is sided with town.

[ghug]

Will somebody talk to me about worcej? I think he's contributed nothing to this game besides starting drama and I think he's scum, but I also am suspicious that my emotions are getting in the way.

I think Hamilton is remarkably nonchalant about kak's gun and I can't decide whether that's townie or if there's something more behind it.

I legitimately think ghug is scum.

I had a gross feeling that food's been trying to set me up, but he's not harping on it as much as I originally thought he would be.

You always think I'm scum.

I kinda agree with you on worcej, but I'm not sure exactly what play from him I'd actually like. He definitely coasted without much interesting activity last game.

I don't think Hamilton would be nonchalant about anything as scum. It's possible he knows kak doesn't have a gun though, I guess.

Food still seems pretty townie to me, crappy end vote and all.

[celaph]

I trust brain to be town for the amount of work being put in. It's not all 100% pertinent but there's a lot going on. Correct takes? I'd say not all of their takes are correct, but the only takes that are spot on are the scum takes. The rest of are going to have some mistakes in with the successes.

For one I know this to be false, but I'm curious why you think that all of brain's takes on scum are spot on.

Wht do you mean false? And have I implied that all of brain's takes on scum are 100% Not sure what you're getting at here.

Oh, I think I see what you meant. I read the line that I highlighted as saying that you thought that all his scum takes were correct takes.

[ghug]

Will somebody talk to me about worcej? I think he's contributed nothing to this game besides starting drama and I think he's scum, but I also am suspicious that my emotions are getting in the way.
I think worcej is scum, but I can't recall my exact reason off the top of my head. I'll check my notes and get back to you.

I think Hamilton is remarkably nonchalant about kak's gun and I can't decide whether that's townie or if there's something more behind it.

Honestly, K, I just don't understand the gun and I haven't taken the time to read up on it.

I legitimately think ghug is scum.

And why ghug? They've been a townread for me for a good part of the game.

I had a gross feeling that food's been trying to set me up, but he's not harping on it as much as I originally thought he would be.

I know I shouldn't post replies in quotes but I just wanted to address each point.

ghug is mostly gut and deep-seeded trust issues. I think he's saying the right things a bit too much, and is avoiding making an impression. I'm not getting the solvey vibes others are apparently getting because I think most of what he's said was piggy-backing off of others' reads.

And D1 I really didn't like how he went from his lazy push on Maniac to joining me on brain when Demon was the lead wagon, and then he just disappeared for the rest of the phase. I especially don't like how he's been emphasizing that there must have been bussers on the Demon wagon when he actively avoided it himself.

I don't think I've been especially solvey yet, so I'll give you that point. I missed EoD because I scheduled all of my meetings to have the last 30 minutes of the day free, but assumed it was at 3:00 and it was actually 2. I'm saying there are bussers because there are always bussers and Chaqa's reductive logic is frustrating. I'm not saying we should ignore the non-RHK voters.

If I'm scum, why do I join a second tiny wagon with RHK in the lead instead of bussing or trying to push one of the bigger counterwagons?

[Hamilton Brian]

For one I know this to be false, but I'm curious why you think that all of brain's takes on scum are spot on.

Wht do you mean false? And have I implied that all of brain's takes on scum are 100% Not sure what you're getting at here.

Oh, I think I see what you meant. I read the line that I highlighted as saying that you thought that all his scum takes were correct takes.

Right, and I re-read it and thought that I was unclear. Right...the only group who's takes are 100% are scum.

[ghug]

This may be a stupid question but do Mafia have a roleblock?

Also for those looking for a D1 busser, sure a busser could exist. The vote count at the end was DemonRHK 7, Kak 4, HB 3, so unless Kak and HB are scum then DemonRHK gets saved if there are two scum on his wagon.

So assuming 0 or 1 busser we have scum on demonRHK could be 1/6

And non-bussers mafia are 3 from the remaining twelve players. Much more chance of finding scum here even if we throw a dart.

We can find any bussers later.

I'm aware that you'll all think I'm saying this to save myself, but you should all know it makes sense. Ask yourselves what you'll do if I flip town? Will you keep going through DemonRHK voters?

Fakest of all the RB townslips.

[celaph]

Will somebody talk to me about worcej? I think he's contributed nothing to this game besides starting drama and I think he's scum, but I also am suspicious that my emotions are getting in the way.

I think Hamilton is remarkably nonchalant about kak's gun and I can't decide whether that's townie or if there's something more behind it.

I legitimately think ghug is scum.

I had a gross feeling that food's been trying to set me up, but he's not harping on it as much as I originally thought he would be.

You always think I'm scum.

I kinda agree with you on worcej, but I'm not sure exactly what play from him I'd actually like. He definitely coasted without much interesting activity last game.

I don't think Hamilton would be nonchalant about anything as scum. It's possible he knows kak doesn't have a gun though, I guess.

Food still seems pretty townie to me, crappy end vote and all.

Is your reasoning on food the same as it was D1?

Why aren't you advocating more for any of the wagons you're on? It feels like you don't believe in them.

[ghug]

vecna was not janitored so if you do reveal who the person is theyll likely get janitor killed. this why waiting til eon 2 might be best

Feels like brain is ignoring the possibility that scum will kill darg.

Im of the opinion darg is scum and I have a thought on who cop really is. not gonna comment on if I approve of how theyre handling it

Then you should be pushing him to claim his scan now.

[ghug]

Hoping there is a gun.

IF the person is in the list, you are saying i should reveal before the shooter shoots?

What do others think about that?

Chaqa's list is not gospel.

I still think you should be claiming your scan now, so as not to give you time to think of another one if you are lying. If the consensus is to wait, you should claim it when the person is at risk of daykill or gunkill, or at EoN otherwise.

What do you mean, another one? He only needs to claim one scan.

Probably should have said "a better one". If he's scum, the longer he's given to pick a scan target, the more useful the purported result will be to him.