MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[celaph]

Darg, you should reveal that information at some point so we don’t risk wasting the day DKing your inno scan, but no rush.

He should only reveal if the target is a top wagon or he worries that he's going to be killed.

[brainbomb]

oh hi celaph where have you been

[celaph]

darg is unccd with an inno scan and was not even rbd

I think this means that we have a watcher (or darg is mafia). Otherwise, you're right that he's the obvious rb target.

[celaph]

good night

Waiting for you to fall asleep before posting.

[worcej]

You were bringing up something that was irrelevant and based on ghug's misunderstanding, and you said that you realized it was a misunderstanding but pressed it anyway. I didn't feel attacked, I feel like you're trying to jump off of ghug's misinterpretation of what happened to cause drama or get me riled up or whatever.

I'll be explicitly clear: I've seen you brush off the good compliment with references to be bad a lot and it's making me go

I don't know why tf you're still talking about this but I'm over it and I think you're making up nonsense reasons to pretend to have an opinion on this game.

##vote worcej

So is this also why you want to shoot me?

[celaph]

darg is unccd with an inno scan and was not even rbd

Yeah and darg jumped the gun on a fake claim when I was scum with him.

...

YEET THAT YEAST

##VOTE dargorygel

This gives me flashbacks to scum Bona. It's anti-town, but you're saying it in a way that's so confident and carefree that it makes me think you're town. It also goes well with the comments D1 that you were jumping from idea to idea as the game went as if you have no agenda to fulfill. It'll probably get you dk'd at some point, but here are some hesitant town points.

[worcej]

My innocent investigation is not as nice as it might appear.
a) driver could have messed me up, and given me the scan on someone else.
b) the person I investigated, if the ww, would result in an inno.
c) and obviously, could be a godfather.

Pretty sure you would know if your result was impacted by the driver.

[celaph]

I do not believe the werewolf tried to kill darg.

If darg was saved he should have claimed that so this seems like a safe assumption.

[worcej]

So either:
1. Dargo didn’t know this because he isn’t the cop or
2. Dargo didn’t know this because he didn’t read the setup

We know he has to read the setup for his council role.

So darg is lying about being cop?

Chaqa doing the lords work right here.

[worcej]

Or he didn’t read the setup as thoroughly as he should or forgot this part of it...

Why was darg supposed to read the setup more thoroughly than others?

To approve it for the Council?

This is actually a good point.

[celaph]

You were not on the ball that game but you're still pretty good.

Yo I was *shocked* when I found out it was you and Bob. That was so impressive lol

I should have been nailed days earlier.

All us aliens were hogging the town DK spotlight giving you an easy pass. But also, you and Bob played really well. If I had suspected something I would have tried to RB one of you.

[worcej]

So, here's some general precepts I've got right now to think about this:
1. The RHK voters are *most likely* mostly town. I would imagine if a bus occurred at all, it was Maniac or kgray, based on the lateness of Maniac's vote and kgray leaving and coming back. I don't think celaph or food are bussing there.
2. I think Kakarot is town, based on him being a counterwagon to RHK. I had thought his voters were scummy, but it seems like Dargo is good, and brain seems town enough. Damo could be cleared *IFF we find out for sure he was roleblocked by scum and not a town RBer.

Putting this together, I think the most likely people to be scum are in the group that isn't mentioned above. That leaves, to me:
- Yavu
- Worcej
- Rivera
- ghug
- Hamilton
- Jamiet
- Macca

If possible, I think Kak should shoot one of these group (since with Darg re-claiming I don't think we should jump to flip him yet) or maybe Maniac, since I'm pretty sure he's scum.

Would everyone agree that, *generally*, that's a good list to look in? I know after the game where ghug, Bozo, and Durga bussed day 1, we're all a bit scarred, but it feels like that didn't happen here given how close the wagons were. If scum were on RHK, they could easily have moved to a different wagon without much backlash and gotten Kak, HB, or even brainbomb killed.

Even with me included in the list, I think your list is good for putting a bullet into one of us.

[celaph]

Brain's suggestion that ghug mispelled Demon on purpaose to avoid being searched up later in the game has me believe Brain is on the ball this game.

I'll endorse his Celaph target for now.

I'd rather we daykill celaph. He'll care enough to fight back.

Agreed on this, and celaph's alignment is pretty obvious when he's on the block.***

***except that one time he tricked me ridiculously badly, but that was targeted pocketing and won't work anymore. The other two times it's bee very obvious to me and most people what his alignment was.

[ghug]

So, here's some general precepts I've got right now to think about this:
1. The RHK voters are *most likely* mostly town. I would imagine if a bus occurred at all, it was Maniac or kgray, based on the lateness of Maniac's vote and kgray leaving and coming back. I don't think celaph or food are bussing there.
2. I think Kakarot is town, based on him being a counterwagon to RHK. I had thought his voters were scummy, but it seems like Dargo is good, and brain seems town enough. Damo could be cleared *IFF we find out for sure he was roleblocked by scum and not a town RBer.

Putting this together, I think the most likely people to be scum are in the group that isn't mentioned above. That leaves, to me:
- Yavu
- Worcej
- Rivera
- ghug
- Hamilton
- Jamiet
- Macca

If possible, I think Kak should shoot one of these group (since with Darg re-claiming I don't think we should jump to flip him yet) or maybe Maniac, since I'm pretty sure he's scum.

Would everyone agree that, *generally*, that's a good list to look in? I know after the game where ghug, Bozo, and Durga bussed day 1, we're all a bit scarred, but it feels like that didn't happen here given how close the wagons were. If scum were on RHK, they could easily have moved to a different wagon without much backlash and gotten Kak, HB, or even brainbomb killed.

When we catch scum day one, there's usually a deep busser. This is the same simplistic logic you used to avoid having useful opinions the last time you were scum.

[worcej]

darg is unccd with an inno scan and was not even rbd

I think this means that we have a watcher (or darg is mafia). Otherwise, you're right that he's the obvious rb target.

Why would darg be RB’ed in this setup?

[ghug]

darg is unccd with an inno scan and was not even rbd

I think this means that we have a watcher (or darg is mafia). Otherwise, you're right that he's the obvious rb target.

Why would darg be RB’ed in this setup?

For being the cop?

[worcej]

I think this means that we have a watcher (or darg is mafia). Otherwise, you're right that he's the obvious rb target.

Why would darg be RB’ed in this setup?

For being the cop?

I’ll rephrase this then: how would he be RB’ed in this setup?

[brainbomb]

there are currently two rb claims
damo
jamie

and maf have a factional rb

[worcej]

there are currently two rb claims
damo
jamie

and maf have a factional rb

That’s what I needed to know.

[Chaqa]

So, here's some general precepts I've got right now to think about this:
1. The RHK voters are *most likely* mostly town. I would imagine if a bus occurred at all, it was Maniac or kgray, based on the lateness of Maniac's vote and kgray leaving and coming back. I don't think celaph or food are bussing there.
2. I think Kakarot is town, based on him being a counterwagon to RHK. I had thought his voters were scummy, but it seems like Dargo is good, and brain seems town enough. Damo could be cleared *IFF we find out for sure he was roleblocked by scum and not a town RBer.

Putting this together, I think the most likely people to be scum are in the group that isn't mentioned above. That leaves, to me:
- Yavu
- Worcej
- Rivera
- ghug
- Hamilton
- Jamiet
- Macca

If possible, I think Kak should shoot one of these group (since with Darg re-claiming I don't think we should jump to flip him yet) or maybe Maniac, since I'm pretty sure he's scum.

Would everyone agree that, *generally*, that's a good list to look in? I know after the game where ghug, Bozo, and Durga bussed day 1, we're all a bit scarred, but it feels like that didn't happen here given how close the wagons were. If scum were on RHK, they could easily have moved to a different wagon without much backlash and gotten Kak, HB, or even brainbomb killed.

When we catch scum day one, there's usually a deep busser. This is the same simplistic logic you used to avoid having useful opinions the last time you were scum.

I'm not saying there isn't a busser, but Chaqccam's Razor says we shouldn't be tinfoiling so early. And I don't know what logic you're talking about, last game I was scum was (I think) the one where I won 11v1? I remember working my ass off that game.