MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[Hamilton Brian]

@damo, very early on you suggested brain slipped. It was their post of "something something hemingway..." but then you walked it back to wanting to believe it a townslip.

What about it made you initially consider it a scum slip?

You're now saying that brain's list is close to your own. Brain didn't include themselves on their own list, so where would you slot them?

[brainbomb]

this implies you think Vecna is town, and an authority over public opinion.
Do you fear Vecna will sway the game his way?

This post makes brain less scummy in my eyes and makes me suspicious about Bona. Like Bone, I townread Vecna too but he assumed that Vecna is town when writing this. Does Bona know who's mafia and who's not? We have the werewolf though. It's still suspicious and I'm fine with switching my vote to Bona. I just need to catch up so I can see the thread clearer.

I do not townread Vecna as strongly as people seem to think. He's more very soft town, but I would use that phrasing regardless of my perception of the other player.

I look at your ISO and everytime I find a post that articulates a position you have — you nullify your own alleged position with a self protecting statement

[brainbomb]

I don't like this post because it's unnecessary and unprompted elaboration on someone else's kinda old comment. Bad vibes, really

Bona, you’ve pointed out a lot of things you don’t like. What have you really liked so far? Who do you townread?

I like celaph, kgray, and ghug so far. Most people are only slightly one way or the other so far, but they stand out to me.

Where is the so called substance of the post? theres nothing here but blanket unexplained reads

[brainbomb]

It's a confusing way to post this, but the words in the quotes are Bona's thoughts on each quote (best I can tell). If you click on the arrow it leads you to the quote he apparently likes.

The tl;dr for his post seems to be that Bona townreads the people who criticized brain which leaves me feeling icky.

See, celaph gets it. I demoted ghug to mere townlean for right ideas though, if you look at it.

right ideas such as?

[Bonatogether]

This post makes brain less scummy in my eyes and makes me suspicious about Bona. Like Bone, I townread Vecna too but he assumed that Vecna is town when writing this. Does Bona know who's mafia and who's not? We have the werewolf though. It's still suspicious and I'm fine with switching my vote to Bona. I just need to catch up so I can see the thread clearer.

I do not townread Vecna as strongly as people seem to think. He's more very soft town, but I would use that phrasing regardless of my perception of the other player.

I look at your ISO and everytime I find a post that articulates a position you have — you nullify your own alleged position with a self protecting statement

The section "but I would use that phrasing regardless of my perception of the other player" is referring to the "You cannot read anything into it" bit from earlier, and not to the read that I have on Vecna.

[Bonatogether]

It's a confusing way to post this, but the words in the quotes are Bona's thoughts on each quote (best I can tell). If you click on the arrow it leads you to the quote he apparently likes.

The tl;dr for his post seems to be that Bona townreads the people who criticized brain which leaves me feeling icky.

See, celaph gets it. I demoted ghug to mere townlean for right ideas though, if you look at it.

right ideas such as?

Such as that macca's alignment is not determined by their first post.

[damo666]

@damo, very early on you suggested brain slipped. It was their post of "something something hemingway..." but then you walked it back to wanting to believe it a townslip.

What about it made you initially consider it a scum slip?

You're now saying that brain's list is close to your own. Brain didn't include themselves on their own list, so where would you slot them?

It was neither a townslip nor a scumslip as brain explained referring to the set up thread.

For the time being I put brain as overwordy town. If he's scum he'll panic and expose himself (if you pardon the expression).

[Bonatogether]

Bona, you’ve pointed out a lot of things you don’t like. What have you really liked so far? Who do you townread?

I like celaph, kgray, and ghug so far. Most people are only slightly one way or the other so far, but they stand out to me.

Where is the so called substance of the post? theres nothing here but blanket unexplained reads

[brainbomb]

why dont you just talk about vecna? why does it have to be about you and your convoluted perception.

[brainbomb]

randomly throwing out names and assigning them alignments is just about as meaningless as it gets

[Bonatogether]

why dont you just talk about vecna? why does it have to be about you and your convoluted perception.

?

Why Vecna?

[brainbomb]

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[Bonatogether]

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[Bonatogether]

I don't understand

[Bonatogether]

Why would you hammer? Didn't you say that we need to establish reads on people as soon as possible?

[Hamilton Brian]

For the time being I put brain as overwordy town. If he's scum he'll panic and expose himself (if you pardon the expression).

Thanks for explaining; yeah, I feel more the other direction, but I'll work it out like this on the page to dissuade myself.

Brain's flow of communication is pointed at specific people with a buckshot approach; verbose, but again scattered all over the place. Maybe it's due to who's on at the time? Big air time with Bona and I still need to dig into that to see which side of the argument I'll fall on. Is it helping town at all? I don't feel like it is, but brain exposing themselves by communicating so much would likely get them caught, so I think the smart scum play wouldn't be to write so much.

See? I talked myself out of it. I need to go back to check the game we were scum together. Low-town to null. I doubt I would vote them today.

[Hamilton Brian]

I feel like brain's hammer is equivalent to the kid that throws a firecracker in the middle of the classroom.

[kgray]

also, since you're here right now

@ghug please tell me, what do you think about my dargo theory

That he's looking to follow on a wagon?

I legitimately like the Maniac vote as much as I can like any vote day one. Darg's votes are unimpressive but not completely out of character. I'm more concerned with the way he walked back the Bona vote when it became clear his logic was backwards.

What did you want him to do, keep insisting on an argument that'd been proven false? What was different about how he backed out of his vote compared to what food did?

[kgray]

All of those people lol

Why do you think I might be scum?

Idk you said something that made me think you were scum so I said so.

You're saying all the things I'm saying though, which is a good sign.

Weak.

[kgray]

Second part that I forgot to respond to - I think voting strong scum players out early is entirely acceptable for a D1 vote.

It's really not. It's no better than voting out players you think are "bad" as town.

Highly disagree with your opinion here.

"Bad" is an inflammatory term to assign someone. "strong scum" is a compliment of ability.

It's not about being inflammatory or complimentary, I'm just saying it's a bad way to play the game.