MAFIA 66: The Battle for Olympus - Game Thread [hidden]

[ghug]

I dont personally think my game will be affected by what town pr or scum pr are in play. I have no interest or desire to care about such details unless scum somehow slips through a fake pr claim and that happens so seldom I cant imagine why we should give a shit

I mean they have the very real ability to do so in this game.

[kgray]

Macca opens with some weak post.
Brain accuses macca of opening with some weak post.
(This is pretty normal drive by brain stuff. Macca had not written enough to cause a disertation. Brain did not write one. Just scatter shot)
Bona went overboard defending macca.
If macca is scum, we could see bona as defending, and vote macca.
But we don't see enough from macca to even guess
So.
I find bona suspicious for his over the top defense.
Not sure yet what to think of macca.
But bona could be setting up a "look good" if macca flips town.

I can go here.
##vote bonatogether

Wait did I misread all of this?? Brain was calling Macca town. Bona thinks Macca is being NAI. No? Why do darg and food both think Bona is defending Macca?

[ghug]

Macca opens with some weak post.
Brain accuses macca of opening with some weak post.
(This is pretty normal drive by brain stuff. Macca had not written enough to cause a disertation. Brain did not write one. Just scatter shot)
Bona went overboard defending macca.
If macca is scum, we could see bona as defending, and vote macca.
But we don't see enough from macca to even guess
So.
I find bona suspicious for his over the top defense.
Not sure yet what to think of macca.
But bona could be setting up a "look good" if macca flips town.

I can go here.
##vote bonatogether

Wait did I misread all of this?? Brain was calling Macca town. Bona thinks Macca is being NAI. No? Why do darg and food both think Bona is defending Macca?

Mini-me always on my wavelength.

[Chaqa]

so the werewolf kills people by guessing roles. are you guys advocating the werewolf be assisted?

It's almost like you deliberately ignore the words I use.

[Chaqa]

Cause then we know what scum roles are out there.

why do we care what exact scum roles are out there?
we can just flip scum members and learn that way.
how would uncovering our own PR be the best way to figure out what scum are in action?

You're misinterpreting the point of this. For every scum we catch, we learn a PR we have, and for any PRs we lose, we learn what we are looking for. This is just a way to quick reference.

We are playing with unequal info compared to the scum, even moreso than usual.

That's a better way to phrase it.

[Chaqa]

Why is town wrongfully defending scum more common than scum white knighting though?

Why would scum!bona go out on a limb to defend town!Macca???

Have you ever played with scum Bona before and if not then what are you basing this off? In M64, Bona made it far with a lot of seemingly too scummy to be scum behavior.

If I have played with scum!bona, I don't remember it super well. I've played a LOT of Among Us with bona, though, and if his behavior is at all similar, he wouldn't do something like this. As scum he sorta just tunnels on someone.

[kgray]

##vote celaph until he obvtowns

Its kinda weird you do this for celaph but cling vehemently to your NAI stance on macca. can you explain why you treat celaph entirely different than macca?

celaph is usually pretty clearly town or scum to me, so I think in a bit I'll have a good read on him. This vote is not based on any specific posts of his but rather a desire to communicate that I'm watching him.

I guess we're just gonna skip over your first game....

[kgray]

I feel incredibly good about Bona.

Food coats and Macca rub me wrong.

Where’s Jamie?

RHK doing his normal scum thing too

Why Macca?

[Bonatogether]

Its kinda weird you do this for celaph but cling vehemently to your NAI stance on macca. can you explain why you treat celaph entirely different than macca?

celaph is usually pretty clearly town or scum to me, so I think in a bit I'll have a good read on him. This vote is not based on any specific posts of his but rather a desire to communicate that I'm watching him.

I guess we're just gonna skip over your first game....

[Chaqa]

Does anyone remember any game damo played as mafia? How was he? I find his messages detailed and careful but in a towny way. I guess I have town vibes from him.

Damo and I were scum two games in a row awhile back. If he's scum, just keep an eye out for his arguments to make no sense.

This happens when he's town too.

+1

Though I disagree, I can understand the sentiment. It's hard to describe but I think I can get a solid read on damo by say Day 4 or so, if we're both alive that long.

[Chaqa]

I'm noticing foodcoats keeps asking a lot of "would X player do this?" or "does Y player play like this as scum?" type questions, which to me seems like an easy way to make yourself look like you're hunting that pushes the work from you to others. I find it is a pretty common scum tactic.

Chaqa attempting to share insights must be scum

Nah I just don't want to get Day 1'd again, still salty about that.

[kgray]

Why is town wrongfully defending scum more common than scum white knighting though?

Why would scum!bona go out on a limb to defend town!Macca???

Have you ever played with scum Bona before and if not then what are you basing this off? In M64, Bona made it far with a lot of seemingly too scummy to be scum behavior.

Defending a townie isn't too scummy to be scum though...

[ghug]

Why would scum!bona go out on a limb to defend town!Macca???

Have you ever played with scum Bona before and if not then what are you basing this off? In M64, Bona made it far with a lot of seemingly too scummy to be scum behavior.

If I have played with scum!bona, I don't remember it super well. I've played a LOT of Among Us with bona, though, and if his behavior is at all similar, he wouldn't do something like this. As scum he sorta just tunnels on someone.

I think you should be a bit more open-minded. I don't really expect him to do it again, but he fooled many of us a few games ago by leaning hard on the too-scummy-to-be-scum while giving a reasonable appearance of hunting.

[kgray]

This is a scumtell from you bona. for a number of reasons.

but the most important reason is that you are fighting tooth and nail to keep a player as a null when you should be seeking to prove that player is town or scum by any means necessary.

this arbitrary use if logic and judgement mirrors how you played as scum in m64 where you would argue just for the sake of asinine page filling arguments.

##vote bona

This looks like some classic TvT to me. But it is also interesting that Bona wants to defend Macca so hard... I would expect town to flip it and say brain is scum fabricating a reason to vote, rather than defending.

Macca and Bona scum team?

##VOTE bonatogether

How is Bona defending Macca? Brain is townreading them and Bona is refusing to accept the logic for the townread.

Thank god someone can read.

[ghug]

I'm noticing foodcoats keeps asking a lot of "would X player do this?" or "does Y player play like this as scum?" type questions, which to me seems like an easy way to make yourself look like you're hunting that pushes the work from you to others. I find it is a pretty common scum tactic.

Chaqa attempting to share insights must be scum

Nah I just don't want to get Day 1'd again, still salty about that.

I got a miskill out of it and now I'm getting the desired behavior in the next game. 10/10 would do again.

[Bonatogether]

Why would scum!bona go out on a limb to defend town!Macca???

Have you ever played with scum Bona before and if not then what are you basing this off? In M64, Bona made it far with a lot of seemingly too scummy to be scum behavior.

If I have played with scum!bona, I don't remember it super well. I've played a LOT of Among Us with bona, though, and if his behavior is at all similar, he wouldn't do something like this. As scum he sorta just tunnels on someone.

It also usually doesn't work if I come under pressure.

[kgray]

Regarding Brain and Bona's argument:

There are moments that it feels like Brain is trying to fit data to match his argument. First it's that scum Macca doesn't use exclamations and then it's that scum Macca's explanations come only at the end. And they only come at the end because they are afterthoughts which makes more sense as scum. There is certainly a difference, I'm just not buying that the difference is causal right now.

That said, I'm a little bothered by how little Bona seems to have taken from the interaction. At best he managed a "brain is mildly scummy for it the whole thing" when prompted.

Also, I thought it was interesting that he seemed more frustrated with food following brain onto his wagon than brain's vote in the first place.

[foodcoats]

This looks like some classic TvT to me. But it is also interesting that Bona wants to defend Macca so hard... I would expect town to flip it and say brain is scum fabricating a reason to vote, rather than defending.

Macca and Bona scum team?

##VOTE bonatogether

How is Bona defending Macca? Brain is townreading them and Bona is refusing to accept the logic for the townread.

Thank god someone can read.

Oh shit LOL.

[Bonatogether]

How is Bona defending Macca? Brain is townreading them and Bona is refusing to accept the logic for the townread.

Thank god someone can read.

Oh shit LOL.

Explain please

[foodcoats]

Well, I'm not sure what I think any more. I guess it's all NAI and I should've listened to myself saying, "this looks like TvT."

##UNVOTE