Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[celaph]

Regarding the alien's ability to manipulate votes, the line reads

Immediately following infection, on the following day phase, the Alien can choose to manipulate the infected player’s vote.

##Call GM: Can the alien manipulate votes only on the day after infecting someone or on all days after infecting someone?

[BobMcBob]

i have not read up fully yet, but i saw the news
it appears we only really have 3 options today
out of those, i prefer damo
##vote damo

[ghug]

Regarding the alien's ability to manipulate votes, the line reads

Immediately following infection, on the following day phase, the Alien can choose to manipulate the infected player’s vote.

##Call GM: Can the alien manipulate votes only on the day after infecting someone or on all days after infecting someone?

They can fuck with up to two votes, so I assume that means it starts immediately and continues as long as they're infected.

[ghug]

Is it possible the alien redirected the nightkill onto Macca?

[BobMcBob]

Is it possible the alien redirected the nightkill onto Macca?

it... is?
i think
so its possible if alien infected a scum that they tried to redirect protect themselves from getting targeted with nk, or get an extra kill through
although given that the maf vote on an nk idk how it would work exactly

[BobMcBob]

not that this is at all relevant today, but if alien didnt redirect the scumkill its likely that scum are really scared of townclears right?

[BobMcBob]

It may have taken me this long to realize that your EoN post said you were going to kit rd, not kill him.

classic ghug moment

[ghug]

It may have taken me this long to realize that your EoN post said you were going to kit rd, not kill him.

classic ghug moment

Try being me for a day.

[BobMcBob]

because its obviously better used on someone thats not already scanned?

were trying to find the alien as highest priority. not be uncertain on whetjer the cure actually worked.

note: I asked the gm before hand. kitting the alien or an infected person gives exactly the same result

We also need to limit the number of people going around with Alien DNA.

I'm worried you think healing Damo of Alien DNA would have been a "waste" when it literally hinders the Alien's wincon. A waste would be using it on someone who was not infected in the first place.

You are being very odd.

The problem now is that we can't know if we've actually cured anyone or if they're the alien unless we use an additional scan or kit, so using the kit to cure someone doesn't prevent us from having to kill them.

this is a legitimate criticism of the idea jamie has been carrying throughout the conversation
i think vecna was wise to "scan" someone who was not known to be infected/alien, because we can't know if we actually disinfected them

[BobMcBob]

It may have taken me this long to realize that your EoN post said you were going to kit rd, not kill him.

classic ghug moment

Try being me for a day.

no thanks

[ghug]

We also need to limit the number of people going around with Alien DNA.

I'm worried you think healing Damo of Alien DNA would have been a "waste" when it literally hinders the Alien's wincon. A waste would be using it on someone who was not infected in the first place.

You are being very odd.

The problem now is that we can't know if we've actually cured anyone or if they're the alien unless we use an additional scan or kit, so using the kit to cure someone doesn't prevent us from having to kill them.

this is a legitimate criticism of the idea jamie has been carrying throughout the conversation
i think vecna was wise to "scan" someone who was not known to be infected/alien, because we can't know if we actually disinfected them

This is why I suggested this quite a while ago.

Should have tried being me for a day.

[BobMcBob]

The problem now is that we can't know if we've actually cured anyone or if they're the alien unless we use an additional scan or kit, so using the kit to cure someone doesn't prevent us from having to kill them.

this is a legitimate criticism of the idea jamie has been carrying throughout the conversation
i think vecna was wise to "scan" someone who was not known to be infected/alien, because we can't know if we actually disinfected them

This is why I suggested this quite a while ago.

Should have tried being me for a day.

i feel like if i did i wouldve shot jamie day 1 or something similarly ridiculous, which may not have been great for us

[ghug]

this is a legitimate criticism of the idea jamie has been carrying throughout the conversation
i think vecna was wise to "scan" someone who was not known to be infected/alien, because we can't know if we actually disinfected them

This is why I suggested this quite a while ago.

Should have tried being me for a day.

i feel like if i did i wouldve shot jamie day 1 or something similarly ridiculous, which may not have been great for us

Nah, I claim my guns and use them to scare people. It's possible I would have made Jamie panic claim, but that happened anyway.

[BobMcBob]

This is why I suggested this quite a while ago.

Should have tried being me for a day.

i feel like if i did i wouldve shot jamie day 1 or something similarly ridiculous, which may not have been great for us

Nah, I claim my guns and use them to scare people. It's possible I would have made Jamie panic claim, but that happened anyway.

regardless, i think one ghug is plenty for any given game of mafia

[BobMcBob]

We kill whichever of damo and celaph is more likely to be the alien, and then mafia hits the other one.

Yeah, that worked great when they took care of celaph! Oh, wait...

This time they have to.

i wouldnt put it past them to not dot that anyway, but it would not be at all in their interests anymore to avoid going after infectees/potential aliens, and i hope they realise that

[ghug]

Yeah, that worked great when they took care of celaph! Oh, wait...

This time they have to.

i wouldnt put it past them to not dot that anyway, but it would not be at all in their interests anymore to avoid going after infectees/potential aliens, and i hope they realise that

No like we have a good chance literally fucking lose.

[BobMcBob]

This time they have to.

i wouldnt put it past them to not dot that anyway, but it would not be at all in their interests anymore to avoid going after infectees/potential aliens, and i hope they realise that

No like we have a good chance literally fucking lose.

i get that, but the scumteam may not
@scum, actually do kill celaph tonight (does rdr work? idk)
like this is actually important
you probably lose otherwise

[ghug]

i wouldnt put it past them to not dot that anyway, but it would not be at all in their interests anymore to avoid going after infectees/potential aliens, and i hope they realise that

No like we have a good chance literally fucking lose.

i get that, but the scumteam may not
@scum, actually do kill celaph tonight (does rdr work? idk)
like this is actually important
you probably lose otherwise

Rdr won't die if they attempt to NK him unless Vecna is lying. Celaph won't either if he's the alien, but rd isn't worth the target.

[BobMcBob]

scum = fox + maniac

alien = celaph

replace celaph with damo and im pretty confident in this

[BobMcBob]

No like we have a good chance literally fucking lose.

i get that, but the scumteam may not
@scum, actually do kill celaph tonight (does rdr work? idk)
like this is actually important
you probably lose otherwise

Rdr won't die if they attempt to NK him unless Vecna is lying. Celaph won't either if he's the alien, but rd isn't worth the target.

oh yeah, that makes sense
never mind
nk celaph