Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[BobMcBob]

I have camped.

I WILL CURE CELAPH TONIGHT

wait we had a camper?
this is not good news
can you confirm whether the camping was n1 or not?
also who the heck decided it was a good idea to go camping?

[rdrivera2005]

At this point I think we should kill Thamrick, Damo should consider carefully if he want to use the Kit or not and scum should probably just kill Celaph.

[rdrivera2005]

##vote Thamrick

[celaph]

You think Maniac is the Alien then?

It's possible, he's response wasn't particularly good. But I don't have a strong read on it.

I think my pick if it's not you right now is damo.

Can you say more about your Damo pick?

Do you think alien Damo asks to be herbed and calls calls attention to it when it doesn't receive attention? I agree that Damo looked sus D1/D2, but he felt pretty good yesterday.

@rdr and @vecna, I recall you both having earlier Damo reads. Any thoughts regarding whether damo is alien?

[celaph]

I have camped.

I WILL CURE CELAPH TONIGHT

wait we had a camper?
this is not good news
can you confirm whether the camping was n1 or not?
also who the heck decided it was a good idea to go camping?

No camper. Typo on Damo's part. Clarification later.

[BobMcBob]

I have camped.

I WILL CURE CELAPH TONIGHT

wait we had a camper?
this is not good news
can you confirm whether the camping was n1 or not?
also who the heck decided it was a good idea to go camping?

FALSE ALARM
apparently
all is (relatively) well
all is (relatively) well

[damo666]

I think it's possible, but unlikely because I would assume tham has not meta experience/knowledge on who celaph is.

If Tham was Alien, I'd assume he'd infect someone who has played for awhile like yourself, Jamie, Vecna, ghug, Foxcastle, etc.

id assume alien would go after someone like celaph or macca (or perhaps me) as players who are very unlikely to die early
infecting a good player is worthless if scum kills them off because theyre too problematic

You're assuming that the alien knows that we're unlikely to die early. The problem with the Thamrick alien narrative is that I don't think Tham knows this about us and thus wouldn't target me.

Are there people out there with good meta knowledge and would see targeting me after I asked for it as rather humorous?

I think most players would appreciate the ironic humour. I would have done it.

[damo666]

At this point I think we should kill Thamrick, Damo should consider carefully if he want to use the Kit or not and scum should probably just kill Celaph.

This is good thinking.

If scum confirm they are killing celaph I will hold kit.

[ghug]

this seems very funky, but i think i could get down with this
especially if alien can win after death we need to deal with it sooner rather than later, and mafia is comparatively unthreatening right now

The risk is if mafia is playing without hope then they possibly throw to the alien.

Mafia still have 3 members, so why they will be playing without hope. I believe Brain told the truth about Jasnah being Shaman, so Mafia don't have to worry with Doc saves. In fact, Mafia is probably in a better position then town to win this game, and their biggest concern should be the Alien.

You think brain, knowing jasnah was shaman, would tell us that rather than letting someone on his team claim it?

[ghug]

It's possible, he's response wasn't particularly good. But I don't have a strong read on it.

I think my pick if it's not you right now is damo.

Can you say more about your Damo pick?

Do you think alien Damo asks to be herbed and calls calls attention to it when it doesn't receive attention? I agree that Damo looked sus D1/D2, but he felt pretty good yesterday.

@rdr and @vecna, I recall you both having earlier Damo reads. Any thoughts regarding whether damo is alien?

Both of those things contributed to my townread of him, so sure.

He seems eager to kill thamrick without discussing you fully today, which seems like something an alien would do (obviously most of you appear to feel similarly, but damo is usually smart).

[rdrivera2005]

At this point I think we should kill Thamrick, Damo should consider carefully if he want to use the Kit or not and scum should probably just kill Celaph.

This is good thinking.

If scum confirm they are killing celaph I will hold kit.

How on Earth do you think scum will confirm this?
I think it's a gambling on if scum have a deep threat or not. If they think their chance to win is decent they might go for it as it's one less infected. Or they might want to avoid losing the NK (if Celaph is the Alien) and let the dirty work for town.

But Tham lack of engagement will force us to kill him at some point and today is probably the last chance for it.

[ghug]

At this point I think we should kill Thamrick, Damo should consider carefully if he want to use the Kit or not and scum should probably just kill Celaph.

This is good thinking.

If scum confirm they are killing celaph I will hold kit.

Great idea.

[rdrivera2005]

The risk is if mafia is playing without hope then they possibly throw to the alien.

Mafia still have 3 members, so why they will be playing without hope. I believe Brain told the truth about Jasnah being Shaman, so Mafia don't have to worry with Doc saves. In fact, Mafia is probably in a better position then town to win this game, and their biggest concern should be the Alien.

You think brain, knowing jasnah was shaman, would tell us that rather than letting someone on his team claim it?

I don't think scum will risk claiming a role that could be proved and I think he was telling to the Alien. And I think it's better for town to consider we don't have a doc and be surprised with one making a great play then counting with him.

[damo666]

At this point I think we should kill Thamrick, Damo should consider carefully if he want to use the Kit or not and scum should probably just kill Celaph.

This is good thinking.

If scum confirm they are killing celaph I will hold kit.

How on Earth do you think scum will confirm this?
I think it's a gambling on if scum have a deep threat or not. If they think their chance to win is decent they might go for it as it's one less infected. Or they might want to avoid losing the NK (if Celaph is the Alien) and let the dirty work for town.

But Tham lack of engagement will force us to kill him at some point and today is probably the last chance for it.

It was an attempt at humour rdr.

[thamrick]

The risk is if mafia is playing without hope then they possibly throw to the alien.

Mafia still have 3 members, so why they will be playing without hope. I believe Brain told the truth about Jasnah being Shaman, so Mafia don't have to worry with Doc saves. In fact, Mafia is probably in a better position then town to win this game, and their biggest concern should be the Alien.

You think brain, knowing jasnah was shaman, would tell us that rather than letting someone on his team claim it?

That actually seems very much something Brain would do

[thamrick]

Also Jamie. Thank you for calling me by my proper name

[celaph]

@thamrick, assuming you aren't alien, who do you think is? Why? How do you think town should deal with Jamie's scan results?

[ghug]

@rd, what made you move from one of the thamrick kill holdouts to jumping on the wagon?

@Foxcastle, will you commit to killing celaph tonight?

[Vecna]

what? are you kidding with point B?



(im sorry but that is just ridiculous)

yeah this seems really, really broken
like way beyond what it should be

I wouldn't call it broken. It's just a problem we cannot ignore.

spoken like a true alien

[Vecna]

It's possible, he's response wasn't particularly good. But I don't have a strong read on it.

I think my pick if it's not you right now is damo.

Can you say more about your Damo pick?

Do you think alien Damo asks to be herbed and calls calls attention to it when it doesn't receive attention? I agree that Damo looked sus D1/D2, but he felt pretty good yesterday.

@rdr and @vecna, I recall you both having earlier Damo reads. Any thoughts regarding whether damo is alien?

I normally have enough trouble telling a town damo apart from a scum damo. I had some good pings there during D3, but thats the only thing really.

Its interesting that he volunteers to be the one to clear the infection and noone is protesting about it though. You'd almost think the alien would be trying to be the one to push himself forward, although that ofcourse is not a possibility if he already publicly has claimed an item.