Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[Vecna]

I would assume the alien starts killing clears same as scum to decrease the herd

Yeah, imagine the alien trying to help scum win the game.

Nice scumclaim trying to communicate with the alien buddy.

nah kgray might have been the alien lol

Your retort on me calling you out to be scum trying to communicate with the alien is to point to Kgray?

Not what I wouldve gone for as town, but okay.

Also there is only a 5% (1/20) chance that Kgray was the alien. This improves to 1/15 if I factor in my own alignment and make the assumption the shot was made by scum and they (obviously) werent killing their own teammate.

Still not worth the consideration

[brainbomb]

I imagine this gooey wet alien crawling out of the slime to haunt you

[damo666]

If scum confess to jailing Thamrick and he is alien then

Day Clears Other town Mafia Alien
D3 5 4 4 1 dkTham
N3 5 4 4 0 nk clear
D4 4 4 4 dk confessor
N4 4 4 3 no clear
D5 3 4 3

And a reasonable game for both sides

[brainbomb]

a real hunt for alien wouldnt realistically happen unless the scum got decimated 4 days in a row. otherwise theres never going to be time for any alien hunt

[damo666]

Oh this is getting easier.

Vecna has quasi town cleared himself.

So I now think Thamrick is alien with remaining 4 scum in

brain
Fox
Ghug
Maniac
rdr
Worcej

Of these I think the 2 town are rdr and umm maybe worcej

wait, huh, what?

How is that your take-away?

Which bit do you disagree with?

[Vecna]

Oh this is getting easier.

Vecna has quasi town cleared himself.

So I now think Thamrick is alien with remaining 4 scum in

brain
Fox
Ghug
Maniac
rdr
Worcej

Of these I think the 2 town are rdr and umm maybe worcej

wait, huh, what?

How is that your take-away?

Which bit do you disagree with?

Im not disagreeing, im just not sure if im interpreting your thoughts correctly.

Can you explain your thoughts?

[Vecna]

And please, gimme the long drawn-out version. It would probably really help us in reading you as well.

[brainbomb]

also without knowing if alien infected emc which would cause extra spread into walkie chat and everywhere else

[Vecna]

and as to what im confused on:

how did I just quasi clear myself

and how does this lead you to think tham is alien

[Vecna]

also without knowing if alien infected emc which would cause extra spread into walkie chat and everywhere else

Ah, and out comes the real reason scum killed Jasnah.

They identified the logical infection target and tried to kill off the infection victory condition for the alien so it would have to start using its kill action.

Guess scum is desperate

[Vecna]

We might actually be very close to the point where mass-claim results in auto. This still banks on a lot of assumptions ofcourse, about us not falsely clearing people.

If it werent for the alien, we could probably go for it right now.

[brainbomb]

how would massclaim help if theres gonna be two kills a night every night

[Vecna]

thats exactly the only downside I pointed out?

[brainbomb]

I dont have the math handy but I assume the auto win town path involves 1 kill p night

[Vecna]

You know you can just be the scum spokesperson here and make a proposal, right brain?

[Vecna]

you know that I know and im about to get everyone united

[brainbomb]

weve played abysmally at best so your false projections of prowess and skill is disgusting. we have really little to be proud of as a town and whats worse is youve begun dick thumping as if our actions were so good that it has elevated us to auto.

were talking about 1 good phase out of 6 so far where we actually did anything right at all

[damo666]

@Vecna

I don't think you would have quizzed the GM thusly as scum hence quasi clear.

As for Tham being alien I am gaming the GM somewhat but given the error I think Bona is almost certainly insane rather than paranoid and I can't see the GM making the error if Thamrick was town so Thamrick is either MiB or alien.

Given no one else was jailed it is likely Thamrick was making alien much more likely than scum trying to give Thamrick cover (if they were gonna do that surely they would have chosen someone different).

I'm pretty convinced Thamrick is alien. Sçum should sacrifice to confirm.

Brain is fairly obviously scum so he can confess.

[brainbomb]

Maybe if you truly thought I was scum you should be asking me who Alien is so at least the slimy lil bastard doesnt hero its way to a win. alas I am neither alien nor maf so I cant really give you their collective opinion. if they even have one.

my personal opinion is that the alien is ghug

[damo666]

Vecna and I are the unclears who are gonna lead town to victory.

To avoid potential 2 kills per night we gotta get the alien.

I suggest we gamble and

##vote Thamrick