Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[Vecna]

From mpov the 4 remaining baddies are in

brain
Fox
ghug
Maniac
rdr
Vecna
Worcej

Four of the 6 who aren't Fox are voting Fox so I am going to read this as a town indicator for Fix and limit my vote to one of those 4 Fox voters, namely ghug, brain, rdr and Maniac.

Brain wasn't voting Fox yesterday so I'll eliminate him (despite his wobbling around like blancmange on a sea of Tizer giving me bad vibes).

I'm lightly townreading rdr which leaves me ghug and Maniac. I have my suspicions about ghug but I think Maniac ultimately likely to gain more traction and he is equally sus so

##vote Maniac

Didn’t we start with 6 bad guys? So when you say ‘from my point of view the remaining 4 bad guys are...’. The only implication I can draw is that you must be a bad guy and possibly the Alien.

huh

[Vecna]

Whoa if Thamrick is town there are 5 baddies in that group of 7 (or 8 if you include me).

And here the correction came. Potentially after realizing the earlier slipup?

[damo666]

From mpov the 4 remaining baddies are in

brain
Fox
ghug
Maniac
rdr
Vecna
Worcej

Four of the 6 who aren't Fox are voting Fox so I am going to read this as a town indicator for Fix and limit my vote to one of those 4 Fox voters, namely ghug, brain, rdr and Maniac.

Brain wasn't voting Fox yesterday so I'll eliminate him (despite his wobbling around like blancmange on a sea of Tizer giving me bad vibes).

I'm lightly townreading rdr which leaves me ghug and Maniac. I have my suspicions about ghug but I think Maniac ultimately likely to gain more traction and he is equally sus so

##vote Maniac

Didn’t we start with 6 bad guys? So when you say ‘from my point of view the remaining 4 bad guys are...’. The only implication I can draw is that you must be a bad guy and possibly the Alien.

See my correction post 3610

[Vecna]

The last time you were caught fucking up the numbers you were naughty-naughty

[damo666]

And yes, im still suspicious of a scumteam with brainbomb that has chosen to NK people with the worst reads to "lock them in".

If Ghug and Damo are actually town, then HR was wrong on pretty much EVERYTHING.

Jasnah also did not have many strong reads, and the ones she did have earlier on in the game have mostly panned out to being the reverse as well. She only has had a strong read on Rdrivera as far as I remember.

If ghug and I are town either you Vecna or Thamrick have to be scum.

I think youre making a few too many easy assumptions here, but I wont blame you for that atm

Yes there is a chance celaph Bob or both are playing a clever Bunny sacrifice but I'm shelving that for the timebeing.

[damo666]

Whoa if Thamrick is town there are 5 baddies in that group of 7 (or 8 if you include me).

And here the correction came. Potentially after realizing the earlier slipup?

I ain't that stupid. I just had 4 in my head from the earlier post when it seemed Thamrick was caught.

[ND]

Nothing to do with Damo, it just occured to me you wouldve had ways of playing the role entirely differently depending on whether your sanity flips upon death or not.

So you never asked the GM if your sanity flips for us on death?

I didn't think it was the case, since it was not mentioned in the role PM.

If you're so interested, why don't you ask the gm yourself? I don't see what this conversation is getting us.

I see a simple solution to this problem.

##CALL GM
Does the deputy's sanity flip on death?

And, second question:
What is the interaction between Paranoid Cop, and MiB (specifically their ability)?

##gm note
1. I don't understand. What do you mean flip on death?
2. See page 1, game start post, paranoid cop results are always Area 51.

[damo666]

Am I right in thinking we can only afford 1 mk?

[ND]

##call GM

Does the alien's night immunity apply to investigatives? If the deputy were to visit the alien, what result would they get (assuming no other outside interference).

1. This should be on page 1, in game start post. It depends on the sanity of the deputy. It would read as not area 51 to a sane deputy and area 51 to an insane deputy. It would read not area 51to naive and area 51 to paranoid

[Vecna]

As long as the alien is still around im guessing the game will continue. Hard to get scum killed at that point without the alien taking shots though

[Vecna]

##call GM

Does the alien's night immunity apply to investigatives? If the deputy were to visit the alien, what result would they get (assuming no other outside interference).

1. This should be on page 1, in game start post. It depends on the sanity of the deputy. It would read as not area 51 to a sane deputy and area 51 to an insane deputy. It would read not area 51to naive and area 51 to paranoid

Wait, so what is the alien actually night-immune to?

[Vecna]

Because according to the setup info, the deputy should not be able to circumvent the alien immunity?

Wouldnt he get a failed action response when targeting the alien?

im a bit confused here

[damo666]

So Thamrick CAN have been jailed alien.

And a likely source of GM error (sorry GM but it happened).

If jailer jailed Thamrick I propose they confess thus sacrificing 1 sum member to identify and get rid of the alien.

Scum get even have any member confess, doesn't have to be the jailer.

[brainbomb]

The Alien will probably kill Jamie tonight if they have any desire to win.

[brainbomb]

I would assume the alien starts killing clears same as scum to decrease the herd

[damo666]

Oh this is getting easier.

Vecna has quasi town cleared himself.

So I now think Thamrick is alien with remaining 4 scum in

brain
Fox
Ghug
Maniac
rdr
Worcej

Of these I think the 2 town are rdr and umm maybe worcej

[Vecna]

##CALL GM

-If the deputy dies, will his death message/role pm reveal to us what his sanity was? Will we learn if he was paranoid/insane etc?

-Did your last answer mean that the alien can actually be targeted by investigative actions?

-What does the alien night immunity extend to exactly? This is rather important for the remainder of the game. His role pm states it applies to everything -except certain items-.

-What message does a PR or item-user receive if they targetted the alien with an action that the alien is immune to.

[Vecna]

I would assume the alien starts killing clears same as scum to decrease the herd

Yeah, imagine the alien trying to help scum win the game.

Nice scumclaim trying to communicate with the alien buddy.

[Vecna]

Oh this is getting easier.

Vecna has quasi town cleared himself.

So I now think Thamrick is alien with remaining 4 scum in

brain
Fox
Ghug
Maniac
rdr
Worcej

Of these I think the 2 town are rdr and umm maybe worcej

wait, huh, what?

How is that your take-away?

[brainbomb]

I would assume the alien starts killing clears same as scum to decrease the herd

Yeah, imagine the alien trying to help scum win the game.

Nice scumclaim trying to communicate with the alien buddy.

nah kgray might have been the alien lol