Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[Jamiet99uk]

If you do actually want to talk about them sure

I think its obvious rdrivera feels like scums winning in his posts. I dont see that same urgency or concern from maniac, damo, celaph, fox or tham.

Scum is winning so that anxiety could be faked... but I see you're implying Rdrivera is the Alien, and I can see Rdrivera being in the Alien pool.

Aside from lurking, anchoring, excuse-offering zero-effort Thamrick, it's also true that Maniac and Damo appear to have made absolutely no fucking effort so far. Maniac really doesn't appear to give a shit. I'd happily kill any of them tomorrow (and I'll start with Thamrick, as mentioned).

for maniac he has PR hunted and lurked

for damo he played ballsy asking to be scanned which could be a sign hes kgrays shooter and in item mass claim he has nothing to claim

Could be.

celaph I had as solid town until last phase where he parroted rdrivera on the ifischl flip but did nothing at all to actually push any different ideas

I'm null on Celaph but I'm concerned they're yet another low-effort player so far. I'd also put Celaph in my Alien pool.

fox is just not even playing the same game as the rest of us. shows up when he wants, acts angry at people for random reasons and has made it appear a few times that he felt people were town based on advice to the shaman as opposed to actually reading people.

This is an interesting take. I felt Fox actually defending himself reasonably, but I want to take another look.

rivera strikes me as alien who is seeing town losing bad enough that hes nervous its happening too fast to control.

Or, he's town and town is losing, which is clearly the case. But yes, Rdrivera can go in the "possibly Alien" pool.

Thank you for these comments, Brainbomb.

[brainbomb]

Umm.... Are you cc'ing Jamie? Or admitting to being scum?

Pay attention. Bona scanned himself and got an "Area-51" result. This is impossible if he is the Deputy unless he is Paranoid or Insane.

Damo is saying he believes Bona's claim and is asserting that he is the same alignment as Bona. Thus he would also return an "Area-51" result if Bona scans him.

Do you see?

there is actually a very, very off chance that bona got framed and scanned himself wrong, which would be very unfortunate but also very unlikely

Is this one of those things scum say when they know exactly what did happen?

[brainbomb]

it is time for the ceremonial reading of the role PM

I find it very unlikely hes telling the truth
firstly lets say bob was the jailor
then his action is a day action
his QT is a day chat
if his item is a gun its able to be fired by day

the motive to not read ones PM in this setup is just so counter to any wincon a person may rand

if hes camper hes basically unable to use powers until d2

if hes vt with a day use item he risks it getting stolen

if hes alien he gains the ability to play as town unawkwardly


im just struggling to see how neglecting to read role pm could be advantageous for any role in this other than alien

[brainbomb]

and it feels like the only benefit to claiming to not have read the role pm is that it changes what synergy he can have with whatever team hes on

[brainbomb]

why not

He felt very townie in the last half hour or so.

havent read yet
ill see if my opinion changes then
maybe we can do a bunny vs vecna tomorrow
i forget which one of them is scummier

um, who else felt this way?

[Jamiet99uk]

and it feels like the only benefit to claiming to not have read the role pm is that it changes what synergy he can have with whatever team hes on

I'm 100% certain that Bob was lying about that.

[brainbomb]

Alright I do also. kgray is my favorite player.

okay adding you and ghug in we get
bona=HR>brain>jamie>>ghug>vecna
or something like that

yea those are all town

[Jamiet99uk]

##Vote Maniac

[brainbomb]

are you gonna stick with claiming you never read your role pm so it cant be you?

yep
i can reveal my item later if necessary
its funky, im looking forward to using it

I wonder if GMs would engineer setup to give alien or secretary a contamination field

[brainbomb]

me?
i ignored both, thank you very much
and also i have now read my role pm
but not the setup

basically:
scum get daychat for a while
alien can control votes
alien wins a few days if we cant keep a lid on them

alien controls votes too?
i heard it was powerful though

https://youtu.be/-sBUxt4MgWM

[rdrivera2005]

If you do actually want to talk about them sure

I think its obvious rdrivera feels like scums winning in his posts. I dont see that same urgency or concern from maniac, damo, celaph, fox or tham.

for maniac he has PR hunted and lurked

for damo he played ballsy asking to be scanned which could be a sign hes kgrays shooter and in item mass claim he has nothing to claim

celaph I had as solid town until last phase where he parroted rdrivera on the ifischl flip but did nothing at all to actually push any different ideas

fox is just not even playing the same game as the rest of us. shows up when he wants, acts angry at people for random reasons and has made it appear a few times that he felt people were town based on advice to the shaman as opposed to actually reading people.

rivera strikes me as alien who is seeing town losing bad enough that hes nervous its happening too fast to control.

Wish I was alien, then maybe I got a chance.

[brainbomb]

bob are you pretending to be really oblivious

oblivious to what?
i did not check my role pm until this morning
i only knew scraps of the setup through conversation in the signups:
i knew there was an alien
i knew there was a campervan
i knew it was item madness
i had vague memories of a phone
i heard about the shaman, deputy and secretary though other people talking about them

no mention of jailor...

[brainbomb]

i assure you i have my head firmly attached to my shoulders this game
despite the tonal shift
i just put it on backward

Usually scum shine a light on their own tonal shifts and try to give a weird reason for it

oh my lifes busy
my cat died
grandma hurt her hip
i got covid
i didnt read my pm
work is hell

[rdrivera2005]

Alternatively, this was just bussing day and my read on Fox is dogshit and he's scum.

But the number of suspicious people on that wagon..

Maybe im just seeing things. Maybe im onto something?

Your reads are as good as your reads on Chaqa and lfischl....

I know I am not Mafia and I think Fox is scum and I also think the resistance of his wagon against an obvious town lfischl shows that Mafia didn't bus.
But hey, keep defending Fox and let's wagon who voted him, seems a legit thought.

This is some weird ass reasoning Rdrivera. Like you can somehow have some strong certainty that Fox is scum AND that he wasnt bussed.

I can't have certainty, but your theory that he was alien and that scum scanned him N1 (do they have a role scan, I don't remember) is so far fetched that seems you are brainbomb on steroids.

Fox could be scum or alien and maybe someone bussed him, but I will eat a shoe if 3 scum voted him as you suggested.

[worcej]

Quick post while I can - not jailed obviously. Most likely this is my only post due to RL activities.

In regards to EOD2, Macca was an interesting choice, but I feel the herb was used as best as possible given how the claim was done. Need to read closer, but anyone not on lfischl is hella on my ‘scumdar’.

Not current on any N2 posts, but by EOD2 I was growing concerned regarding ghug and Vecna - I am not getting my normal meta sense from them.

Damo still seems town along with jasnah. Bob is being weird to draw my attention and BB is being his normal level of weird.

Maniac’s hard lurk has also struck me as a concern, only because the content also feels off. Thamrick also fits this too - both are people I know who have played here in the past but my experience is limited.

Bona/Jamie are pretty much ‘cleared’ PRs in my eyes, though were cleared by some dumb play from other townies... or the player themselves...

If I die this phase, I say D3 needs to be ghug vs Vecna vs a lurker in Maniac or Tham.

[Jamiet99uk]

are you gonna stick with claiming you never read your role pm so it cant be you?

yep
i can reveal my item later if necessary
its funky, im looking forward to using it

I wonder if GMs would engineer setup to give alien or secretary a contamination field

Can you fucking not do this, please?

[brainbomb]

Quick post while I can - not jailed obviously. Most likely this is my only post due to RL activities.

In regards to EOD2, Macca was an interesting choice, but I feel the herb was used as best as possible given how the claim was done. Need to read closer, but anyone not on lfischl is hella on my ‘scumdar’.

Not current on any N2 posts, but by EOD2 I was growing concerned regarding ghug and Vecna - I am not getting my normal meta sense from them.

Damo still seems town along with jasnah. Bob is being weird to draw my attention and BB is being his normal level of weird.

Maniac’s hard lurk has also struck me as a concern, only because the content also feels off. Thamrick also fits this too - both are people I know who have played here in the past but my experience is limited.

Bona/Jamie are pretty much ‘cleared’ PRs in my eyes, though were cleared by some dumb play from other townies... or the player themselves...

If I die this phase, I say D3 needs to be ghug vs Vecna vs a lurker in Maniac or Tham.

hmm

[Jamiet99uk]

Quick post while I can - not jailed obviously. Most likely this is my only post due to RL activities.

In regards to EOD2, Macca was an interesting choice, but I feel the herb was used as best as possible given how the claim was done. Need to read closer, but anyone not on lfischl is hella on my ‘scumdar’.

Not current on any N2 posts, but by EOD2 I was growing concerned regarding ghug and Vecna - I am not getting my normal meta sense from them.

Damo still seems town along with jasnah. Bob is being weird to draw my attention and BB is being his normal level of weird.

Maniac’s hard lurk has also struck me as a concern, only because the content also feels off. Thamrick also fits this too - both are people I know who have played here in the past but my experience is limited.

Bona/Jamie are pretty much ‘cleared’ PRs in my eyes, though were cleared by some dumb play from other townies... or the player themselves...

If I die this phase, I say D3 needs to be ghug vs Vecna vs a lurker in Maniac or Tham.

hmm

Why have you highlighted the word "obviously"??

It is obvious Worcej is not in jail, because he just posted. Posting whilst in jail is not allowed. So unless you're anticipating a modkill on Worcej in the near future, what is the point you're trying to make here, bean?

[brainbomb]

I thought he was implying he wasnt worthy of being jailed.

[Jamiet99uk]

I thought he was implying he wasnt worthy of being jailed.

No I just think he knows whether or not he's in jail and was conscious of his absence.