Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[Vecna]

I'm exhausted and this discussion is asinine, going around in circles on ground that I could swear had been covered around eight hours ago.

In theory I like killing Foxcastle more, but I like the people on the lfischl wagon somewhat more than the people on the Foxcastle wagon, kind of because Jamiet the mostly clear is on lfischl. And what about the three people on damo? Are any of them even here?

Help me out.

If youre going by the "how much do I like the people on the wagon" why arent you sheeping me?

[jasnah]

I think we should vote lfischl. His play has been anti town, nearly egregiously so. I'm shocked that so many people are giving him a pass for what's an obvious and trivially easy scum wifom. I'm close to writing that there's a significant scum push on Foxcastle and therefore Foxcastle is more likely to be town despite me having scum him a while ago.

[Vecna]

Is this just scumslip by Bunnygo? Bunnygo, thamrick and lfischl are scum. Thamrick is holding the herb, but lfischl claimed it to save his skin. So Bunny forgets who had claimed it, and asks the individual with actually the herb whether he ingested it.

That would be hilarious if true.

Lol it would be but unfortunately I don’t have the herb

Interesting how he denies having the herb, but not being scum with lfisch and bunny

[Jamiet99uk]

I think we should vote lfischl. His play has been anti town, nearly egregiously so. I'm shocked that so many people are giving him a pass for what's an obvious and trivially easy scum wifom. I'm close to writing that there's a significant scum push on Foxcastle and therefore Foxcastle is more likely to be town despite me having scum him a while ago.

"Egregiously", that's a good word.

[jasnah]

I'm exhausted and this discussion is asinine, going around in circles on ground that I could swear had been covered around eight hours ago.

In theory I like killing Foxcastle more, but I like the people on the lfischl wagon somewhat more than the people on the Foxcastle wagon, kind of because Jamiet the mostly clear is on lfischl. And what about the three people on damo? Are any of them even here?

Help me out.

If youre going by the "how much do I like the people on the wagon" why arent you sheeping me?

You're sitting on a one man vanity wagon. What do you want?

[Vecna]

I feel a little bad killing them while they are away, but I prefer it to the lfischl wagon at the moment. I feel like he is a smart player who seems to have failed to turn thoughts and questions into reads.

I think he had some decent insight when he was commenting that Jamie was playing town or that Jasnah's response to the scumslip accusation looked bad. Yet the only "reads list" (if you can call it that) he has put out has been exceptionally minimalist and didn't give any indication of who he thought was town. He also called the votes on him pathetic, but didn't seem to turn around and draw conclusions about whether he thought that they were pathetic town or scum pushing for a miskill.

How can you possibly cite any of this as a reason to scumread him though, after last game?

[Vecna]

I'm exhausted and this discussion is asinine, going around in circles on ground that I could swear had been covered around eight hours ago.

In theory I like killing Foxcastle more, but I like the people on the lfischl wagon somewhat more than the people on the Foxcastle wagon, kind of because Jamiet the mostly clear is on lfischl. And what about the three people on damo? Are any of them even here?

Help me out.

If youre going by the "how much do I like the people on the wagon" why arent you sheeping me?

You're sitting on a one man vanity wagon. What do you want?

To kill BunnyGo, obviously

[dargorygel]

Vote Count 2.05
Foxcastle (6) Maniac, ghug, rdrivera2005, BunnyGo, brainbomb, thamrick
Ifischl (5) Foxcastle, damo666, Jamiet99uk, worcej, jasnah
Damo666 (3) Bonatogether, BobMcBob, Macca573
BunnyGo (1) Vecna

Unvoted: Ifischl
Presently Foxcastle is slated for destruction.

Celaph has not voted.

23 minutes left in this day

[jasnah]

Like come on, he literally left and won't even return to vote, or to check on who town would like him to reveal, or to see if the counterwagon is a good one. How is lfischl town? Because he used a reverse psychology trick? Yall are dense.

[Bonatogether]

##vote foxcastle

Upon reread, he doesn't put anything out that seems very worthwhile for someone who is supposedly a good player. lfischl seems more in line (if more defensive) with his normal townplay.

[celaph]

The problem with that is it rewards the potential Scum!Lfischl gambit here.

Do you think the way it's playing out feels like a scum gambit? It feels towny to me.

Why?

Lfischl has made a "last post" and said they won't be back. That's *exactly* what you'd do here if you were making a Wifom-based "oh scum wouldn't do that" gambit.

I refer you to my previous posts about why Lfischl was super scummy before even mentioning the herb. Did you have any thoughts on the end-voting crap?

My immediate thought is that scum wouldn't put themselves out there so obviously, but I know that I have a blindspot to that style of scumplay. So while I'm inclined to disagree, this is the closest I've been to a lfischl vote in the past couple hours.

I'll ##vote lfischl though I'mma be hedgey and might change this.

[Vecna]

##vote Damo

fuck no, I aint having none of this FoxCastle wagon

[BunnyGo]

##vote Damo

fuck no, I aint having none of this FoxCastle wagon

Why Damo over lfischl?

[celaph]

Note also how im not voting Damo atm, because im not certain at all. Its definately a possibility he is scum. He is not my favored wagon. He is just the easy vote for people.

Just now voting Damo.

[BunnyGo]

Like come on, he literally left and won't even return to vote, or to check on who town would like him to reveal, or to see if the counterwagon is a good one. How is lfischl town? Because he used a reverse psychology trick? Yall are dense.

He cannot update anymore. It’a locked in. But the rest of your post is valid. ##vote lfischl

[celaph]

I feel a little bad killing them while they are away, but I prefer it to the lfischl wagon at the moment. I feel like he is a smart player who seems to have failed to turn thoughts and questions into reads.

I think he had some decent insight when he was commenting that Jamie was playing town or that Jasnah's response to the scumslip accusation looked bad. Yet the only "reads list" (if you can call it that) he has put out has been exceptionally minimalist and didn't give any indication of who he thought was town. He also called the votes on him pathetic, but didn't seem to turn around and draw conclusions about whether he thought that they were pathetic town or scum pushing for a miskill.

How can you possibly cite any of this as a reason to scumread him though, after last game?

What last game did you feel applies here?

[celaph]

Like come on, he literally left and won't even return to vote, or to check on who town would like him to reveal, or to see if the counterwagon is a good one. How is lfischl town? Because he used a reverse psychology trick? Yall are dense.

He cannot update anymore. It’a locked in. But the rest of your post is valid. ##vote lfischl

Bunny unlikely scum with fox or lfischl.

[BunnyGo]

A reminder that the alien can potentially swing wagons.

[dargorygel]

Vote Count 2.06
Ifischl (7) Foxcastle, damo666, Jamiet99uk, worcej, jasnah, celaph, Bunnygo
Foxcastle (6) Maniac, ghug, rdrivera2005, brainbomb, thamrick, bonatogether
Damo666 (3) BobMcBob, Macca573, Vecna
Unvoted: ifischl
Presently Foxcastle is slated for destruction.

14 minutes left in this day

[Jamiet99uk]

##vote foxcastle

Upon reread, he doesn't put anything out that seems very worthwhile for someone who is supposedly a good player. lfischl seems more in line (if more defensive) with his normal townplay.

Town!Lfischl endhammering you when you claim an important Town PR role is his normal town style?

So, you're saying he's really shit as town and does stupid, harmful things? Is that what you mean?