Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[BobMcBob]

What of it? It's an opinion. I think it's wrong but I don't know, I'm guesing.

"Because Jamie isn't scum" implies some sort of causal connection between Jamiet being town and Chaqa being scum.

Is that what you're asserting?

I think Jamie is more town like Chaqa.

Or, if you prefer, Chaqa is more scumlike than Jamie.

There is no connection between the two other than they are the top 2 wagons.

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It's definitely not aa

thank you mega maths brain man

[brainbomb]

@brain who in this game do you think is most scared of kgray?

is it worth mentioning that emc pretended the jasnah wagon didn't exist?

i dunno
who other than ghug?
is there anyone who you feel has particularly high opinions of kgray? unlike ghug?

Jamie, HR, Vecna, bona all have very high opinions of kgray

[BobMcBob]

scumslip???

this is the most stupidest post i have read so far by at least 2 orders of magnitude

[brainbomb]

Alright I do also. kgray is my favorite player.

[Bonatogether]

scumslip???

this is the most stupidest post i have read so far by at least 2 orders of magnitude

[Bonatogether]

It probably isn't, but it was interesting

[BobMcBob]

is it worth mentioning that emc pretended the jasnah wagon didn't exist?

i dunno
who other than ghug?
is there anyone who you feel has particularly high opinions of kgray? unlike ghug?

Jamie, HR, Vecna, bona all have very high opinions of kgray

cool thanks
in terms of most likely to shoot kgray early im thinking maybe
bona=HR>jamie>>vecna

[brainbomb]

bona has felt really chill to me this game

[BobMcBob]

Alright I do also. kgray is my favorite player.

okay adding you and ghug in we get
bona=HR>brain>jamie>>ghug>vecna
or something like that

[brainbomb]

are you gonna stick with claiming you never read your role pm so it cant be you?

[Bonatogether]

Alright I do also. kgray is my favorite player.

okay adding you and ghug in we get
bona=HR>brain>jamie>>ghug>vecna
or something like that

If I had a raygun I would have shot you

[BobMcBob]

Alright I do also. kgray is my favorite player.

okay adding you and ghug in we get
bona=HR>brain>jamie>>ghug>vecna
or something like that

If I had a raygun I would have shot you

not as scum you wouldnt
unless you were really really blinded by mild frustration
as scum it is very suboptimal to kill a player who is usually bad and is performing even worse this game
if you were town with a ray gun i wouldve been in danger

[BobMcBob]

are you gonna stick with claiming you never read your role pm so it cant be you?

yep
i can reveal my item later if necessary
its funky, im looking forward to using it

[ghug]

So, D1 was either:
a) a TvTvT waste. In this case it's maybe worth looking at wagons that didn't materialize (all the high schoolers, strangely, and Vecna, who acts like one), but mostly it just sucks.
b) a jasnah save. This one's my favorite, at least pre-writing. First votes on jas were Chaqa/damo/bona/Fox, which put her tied for first, with only a Fox vote on Vecna in between (Jamie was in the lead here, so this could point to a Jamie/Fox team). This put her into a tie with Chaqa and Jamie. lfischl put Chaqa back ahead, emc tied it. Celaph put her in the lead, bona moved to tie it as he does. Brain put Chaqa in the lead. Bona moved back to tie it. Bunny and celaph moved to Jamie (putting him back in the running) and Chaqa (putting him in the lead) respectively. I moved to jasnah to tie it. Then thamrick jumps on Chaqa, Riot jumps on Jamie, and bona moves to tie again, making it 7-7-5. I, emc, and damo then pile on Chaqa in that order. In this scenario, I think damo, Fox, emc, and I look good (I always look good), emc and bona could go either way, and lfischl, brain, Bunny, thamrick, and Riot look bad. The fact that that many people would look bad makes me think there was a save involving a couple of scum and a couple of unwitting town.
c) a Jamie save, here I look pretty bad because I broke the tie. All those early voters on jasnah look not great, especially Fox because he also briefly tried to make Vecna competitive. Fischy still looks bad, brain too, maybe celaph, thamrick. Riot looks good, Bunny looks good. Bona's still hard to read based on the VCA, but probably a little better because he ended up killing the jasnah wagon to force a tie between Chaqa and Jamie.
d) a double save. lfischl, brain, thamrick, maybe me look bad here. Fox, emc, damo, Bunny, HR all look pretty good. Probably Bona too, as he only voted Chaqa early in the day.

[Bonatogether]

okay adding you and ghug in we get
bona=HR>brain>jamie>>ghug>vecna
or something like that

If I had a raygun I would have shot you

not as scum you wouldnt
unless you were really really blinded by mild frustration
as scum it is very suboptimal to kill a player who is usually bad and is performing even worse this game
if you were town with a ray gun i wouldve been in danger

If I was scum with it I probably would have shot brain, vecna, or maybe ghug

[brainbomb]

If we all claim having a day or night use item or hybrid,
the invests can scan among the people who claim in each category so there wont be a duplicate scan.

then we can elim from any item pools that have an overlap and we can find out where the gunner was. it requires a mass item claim but it also doesnt need to occur until all area51 kits are used. and since chaqa was a miller am I right in understanding that our copscan items will be more useful than our deputy?

[ghug]

@brain who in this game do you think is most scared of kgray?

probably ghug

BS. I perfected the buddy kgray strategy. I'd be way more inclined to shoot Vecna, who, for all his strengths, has decided it's in his best interests to always scumread me.

[brainbomb]

okay adding you and ghug in we get
bona=HR>brain>jamie>>ghug>vecna
or something like that

If I had a raygun I would have shot you

not as scum you wouldnt
unless you were really really blinded by mild frustration
as scum it is very suboptimal to kill a player who is usually bad and is performing even worse this game
if you were town with a ray gun i wouldve been in danger

how can he be even worse than when you were his scumbuddy? are you guys scumbuddies again and hes even worse?

[ghug]

Ghug defending jasnah from HR.

On one point, sure. I haven't been quiet about scumreading jasnah though.

So youre defending a scumread for no reason?

I don't like my bedfellows to be using shitty logic.

[brainbomb]

ghug, whats your item? day or night