Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[Bonatogether]

@ Bona: Do you actually scumread me or are you just trying to cause ties?

[ghug]

1x Alien Ray Gun: A player is disintegrated. No body, no name, no role reveal. If used during the day phase, the player disintegrated will still be listed until the post end of day vote count. This circumvents night immunity. The only item that will nullify the effect of the Alien Ray Gun is the Alien Microbe Ray. See more about this below. Once used it is gone.

What the fuck

[celaph]

I was young and inexperienced then

More seriously, why do you think scum would likely group here?

I dunno, but I'll stand by it

##vote jamie tie =D

Dislike your non-answer here.

[Jamiet99uk]

1x Alien Ray Gun: A player is disintegrated. No body, no name, no role reveal. If used during the day phase, the player disintegrated will still be listed until the post end of day vote count. This circumvents night immunity. The only item that will nullify the effect of the Alien Ray Gun is the Alien Microbe Ray. See more about this below. Once used it is gone.

What the fuck

Yeah there's no "a shot rings out"; the ray gun must have a really excellent silencer fitted. That's why we're talking about Kgray's random absence.

[jasnah]

My first reaction to most of you is contempt. I don't even think damo, Bona or Foxcastle are scum, just grade A idiots. It's probably why I don't usually have much success in making friends. Hard to tell.

I think that down the line we'll have many issues with me being a wagon every day. This game is also taking up too much of my time, or it was today, so I'm not gonna push back on my wagon.

I think Jamiet and Chaqa are both decent wagons going into tomorrow. I think lfischl and Vecna are town. I think damo, Bona and Foxcastle have not more than 1 non town. I think Bunny go may be non town. I don't think you should put much stock in what anyone says on D1 because it's at least four parts self-aggrandizement to every part substance, but it's a minimal cost and a lot of potential upside in ability to say 'wow I was right' for me to write this.

I'm pretty sure there are more than 5 maf, having read the role list at some point. Why are people running their mouths propagating fake news?

It feels weird scumreading someone for having reads, but that's definitely where I am right now.

I would be offended, but to be honest your reads are rubbish as are the vast majority of people's, so I will simply take it as a compliment that my speech has been so moving as to be able to elicit strong emotions from audience

[Bonatogether]

More seriously, why do you think scum would likely group here?

I dunno, but I'll stand by it

##vote jamie tie =D

Dislike your non-answer here.

Ok. I'm still right.

[Jamiet99uk]

I dunno, but I'll stand by it

##vote jamie tie =D

Dislike your non-answer here.

Ok. I'm still right.

How can you not answer, and be right?

[celaph]

these are really idiotic reasons to list as why those wagons exist

Clue me in then. Why does jasnah’s wagon exist?

I unironically think it's at least 20% because I wrote earlier that I hate communism.

Of the people on my wagon, I think that celaph is the least likely to be scum, and emc is the most likely to be scum, maybe followed by Chaqa and Bona, I really don't like damo and Foxcastle just from interacting with them but I'm not interested in trying to DK either at the time.

I think it'll be hard to DK Chaqa today and for that reason alone I'm better off finding an alternate wagon that the ADHD'ed monkeys with shiny object syndrome will take up with five minutes to EOD

I really like that Jasnah analyzed the people on her wagon like this.

Jas, do you agree with ghug's earlier assessment that you've been more substantive today than last game? If so, has that been a conscious effort on your part? If not, why do you think it reads like you are?

[rdrivera2005]

explain the bizarre comment about being unable to pocket kgray

i pocketed her last game by being reasonable
this game i am not being reasonable
i cannot pocket her in that way this game, which seems to be the easiest way
full disclaimer, i wasnt just pocketing in that game, i did agree with her on most things

I wouldn't really describe your play last game as pocketing anyone. You played a good pro-town style that got you townread for your competence. It wasn't really targeted at kgray in the same way mine was.

The style you played last game was better for town I feel than your current approach. Rather surprised to see you mix it up.

Wasn't Bob scum last game? I'm confused.

[ghug]

thamrick shot would come from town or 3p. a kgray shot would only come from scum or vecna

If town had a gun and hipfired it D1 without saying anything, I'm going to be rather annoyed.

[Bonatogether]

Dislike your non-answer here.

Ok. I'm still right.

How can you not answer, and be right?

My initial assertion is correct even if I don't have a reason for it right now.

[brainbomb]

my advice is to have a shaman commune with kgray and find out if shes the alien. if she is she wont really care about confessing. if by some miracle shes scum I really doubt she will say. but shaman should learn her item and her role and see if anyone tries to claim it.

[brainbomb]

if she was a PR we should be watchful for late efforts to hijack that role in a claim.

[celaph]

I dunno, but I'll stand by it

##vote jamie tie =D

Dislike your non-answer here.

Ok. I'm still right.

Well, I don't think that your conclusion is correct and your logic to reach the conclusion certainly can't be correct because there isn't any.

You seem to think that the scum team will follow each other around always voting with each other. That strikes me as a terrible strategy because once one of them is caught they all look much worse.

[Bonatogether]

Dislike your non-answer here.

Ok. I'm still right.

Well, I don't think that your conclusion is correct and your logic to reach the conclusion certainly can't be correct because there isn't any.

You seem to think that the scum team will follow each other around always voting with each other. That strikes me as a terrible strategy because once one of them is caught they all look much worse.

No, they look marginally better since no scumteam would ever group like that

[brainbomb]

thamrick shot would come from town or 3p. a kgray shot would only come from scum or vecna

If town had a gun and hipfired it D1 without saying anything, I'm going to be rather annoyed.

that would be almost impossible to believe that a town would randomly kill kgray lol

[Jamiet99uk]

Ok. I'm still right.

How can you not answer, and be right?

My initial assertion is correct even if I don't have a reason for it right now.

What?

Just, what?

What kind of a mind does such a logic-free sentence emerge from?

[rdrivera2005]

Whatever, imma just say Chaqa's town for now.

I tend to agree. But he is obviously not the kill today and I just don't get why people are voting him. I can't see no item that scum might have that is such a threat for town to warrant a D1 kill. And he is even offering himself to be the D2 kill, an offer that we should probably take...

Dislike this post.

Why?

[celaph]

i pocketed her last game by being reasonable
this game i am not being reasonable
i cannot pocket her in that way this game, which seems to be the easiest way
full disclaimer, i wasnt just pocketing in that game, i did agree with her on most things

I wouldn't really describe your play last game as pocketing anyone. You played a good pro-town style that got you townread for your competence. It wasn't really targeted at kgray in the same way mine was.

The style you played last game was better for town I feel than your current approach. Rather surprised to see you mix it up.

Wasn't Bob scum last game? I'm confused.

He was. I guess I more associate pocketing with playing in a particular way to get the town read of one or two people. I would describe Bob's play last game as just good and not pocketing.

The point is insignificant overall. If you're confused by it feel free to ignore it.

[brainbomb]

Jamie, do you have any concerns about your wagon? last game two scum pushed you