Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[BunnyGo]

Why do I sort of scumread Jamie, list that consists of one reason:

He's meaner in snark when scum compared to town. When he's town he'll be all "you witless fuck, shove it up your ass" and you're like "hell yes, harder Jamie"
- but when he's scum the response it generates is more of "the fuck, was this a line?"

While I guess I can sort of agree...

Im missing your whimsical aura of "all the secrets of the universe are mine" and more importantly "I know somethiiiiiiing - and you guuuuuys doooo-oooont".

@Vecna you never answered what the EMC test for damo was. Also, does damo know about the test?

[BunnyGo]

if he were town the item is so important to him and he keeps talking about it. like idk

He talked about it once. Its a gimmick thats supposed to make us go "lets wait untill tomororw". And tomorrow "he put himself up to die, clearly scum wouldnt do it".

It applies to all the dumb fuck reasoning centers of the brain so he can lurk another game and start trying in the endgame.

KILL.WITH.FIRE

I'm so lost with all the pronouns in the quote and your post. What are you and brain saying?

[Hellenic Riot]

Don't like the Chaqa or Jamie wagons and indifferent to Bona.

I find kgray's lack of participation suspicious.

##vote kgray

And before I am accused of hypocrisy I am often a low poster day 1.

Since when do you care if people accuse you of hypocrisy?

[jasnah]

True fact: As an undergrad I was known as "Red Jamie" due to both my hair colour and my support for Communism.

I was going to stand by and allow efforts to unwagon Jamie to continue and maybe succeed, but I'm seriously wondering that it may be time to #@vote Jamie again and this time in earnest.

[BobMcBob]

Bringing in personal feelings that have nothing to do with the game is explicitly, blatantly anti-town.

Fuck you.

nice job ignoring the actual case
and engaging with the joke instead
slow clap
also i meant youre a real pain in the butt, that applies within the confines of this game

There is no actual case.

"He's not angry enough" is not an argument I can sensibly engage with. How do you expect me to respond?

why were you so frollicking and merry when brain claimed and vecna did something dumb?
and yet you are so angry about the most minor of other inconveniences?
and basically all of them?

[jasnah]

##vote Chaqa

Whether or not he's scum, lazy cheese strategies are disreputable and threaten to debilitate the metagame should they be hand waved and given a pass. Those of us who are selfless enough to reckon with longer time horizons than literally just this next day/season/game understand that sometimes things must be done to shape the meta in such a way that future games are playable. So consider this a pressure vote.

As Vecna says, the last thing regular mafia players should want is for minimal effort reverse psychology plays to become a viable scum line.

[BunnyGo]

Current thoughts:

I don't mind the jamie wagon. While Jamie's snarky summary of the wagon makes it seem bad, Maniac and others have interesting reasons.

I don't like the Chaqa wagon. I think Vecna's reasons are bad. I think the members of the wagon are sketchy. I think the timing and manner of its formulation is sketchy.

I like the Bona wagon (obv, I'm on it). I still think Bona had a lot of posts that were "too sketchy to be sketchy" by just spewing statements and then contradicting them about 10 minutes later for no reason. His high school chummy drama seemed like a way to post a lot without doing anything.

I am worried that when lfischl took early pressure (I didn't understand why, but I didn't understand why Durga got a lot of pressure in the mini game) that Vecna jumped in to change the topic. Vecna did the same for some other wagons. I'm not sure who he's saving like he did Durga, but it seems very similar to last game. His posts seem forced like they did last game too, as the GM I thought on D1 "oh man, when Durga flips it'll be obvious how Vecna was defending her". Gonna ##vote Vecna

[Jamiet99uk]

if he were town the item is so important to him and he keeps talking about it. like idk

He talked about it once. Its a gimmick thats supposed to make us go "lets wait untill tomororw". And tomorrow "he put himself up to die, clearly scum wouldnt do it".

It applies to all the dumb fuck reasoning centers of the brain so he can lurk another game and start trying in the endgame.

KILL.WITH.FIRE

I'm so lost with all the pronouns in the quote and your post. What are you and brain saying?

This is about Chaqa. The "He" is Chaqa.

Vote for Chaqa.

[Jamiet99uk]

True fact: As an undergrad I was known as "Red Jamie" due to both my hair colour and my support for Communism.

I was going to stand by and allow efforts to unwagon Jamie to continue and maybe succeed, but I'm seriously wondering that it may be time to #@vote Jamie again and this time in earnest.

In response to that comment of mine?

Why on earth?

Plus your vote is incorrectly formatted and thus invalid, just to point that out.

[Jamiet99uk]

nice job ignoring the actual case
and engaging with the joke instead
slow clap
also i meant youre a real pain in the butt, that applies within the confines of this game

There is no actual case.

"He's not angry enough" is not an argument I can sensibly engage with. How do you expect me to respond?

why were you so frollicking and merry when brain claimed and vecna did something dumb?
and yet you are so angry about the most minor of other inconveniences?
and basically all of them?

Hm? What was this dumb thing that Vecna did? I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to?

[TheMadMonarch]

Next thoughts.

I don't like Jamie, his vibe is much redder than it normally is.

##VOTE Jamie

True fact: As an undergrad I was known as "Red Jamie" due to both my hair colour and my support for Communism.

But turning back to this game, why are you voting me? Tell me about my "vibe" and what you think my normal vibe is?

Your normal vibe is blue. A bit lighter than mod colour blue.

[Jamiet99uk]

##vote Chaqa

Ah ok you were trolling me and now you've joined the Chaqa wagon.

Sensible policies for a happier world.

[Jamiet99uk]

Next thoughts.

I don't like Jamie, his vibe is much redder than it normally is.

##VOTE Jamie

True fact: As an undergrad I was known as "Red Jamie" due to both my hair colour and my support for Communism.

But turning back to this game, why are you voting me? Tell me about my "vibe" and what you think my normal vibe is?

Your normal vibe is blue. A bit lighter than mod colour blue.

Could you explain this using language and concepts that normal human beings would understand?

[Jamiet99uk]

Current thoughts:

I don't mind the jamie wagon. While Jamie's snarky summary of the wagon makes it seem bad, Maniac and others have interesting reasons.

Which others? What reasons?

Talk me through the great reasons Ghug and Chaqa have presented for their votes on me, please?

[TheMadMonarch]

So to summarise my wagon:

Bob doesn't like me.
Ghug's vote was a comedy vote.
Chaqa's vote was a comedy vote.
Macca sees colours.
Maniac wants me to be angry.

These are not real arguments.
These are not genuine cases.
The wagon on me is fake.

The wagon is not fake, as clearly evidenced by all the votes on it. The wagon exists.

How strong are the arguments on support of the wagon? Well, that is a different question. One which seems to have different responses from different players.

I like it, and I'm liking it more and more as Jamie keeps talking.

[Jamiet99uk]

So to summarise my wagon:

Bob doesn't like me.
Ghug's vote was a comedy vote.
Chaqa's vote was a comedy vote.
Macca sees colours.
Maniac wants me to be angry.

These are not real arguments.
These are not genuine cases.
The wagon on me is fake.

The wagon is not fake, as clearly evidenced by all the votes on it. The wagon exists.

How strong are the arguments on support of the wagon? Well, that is a different question. One which seems to have different responses from different players.

I like it, and I'm liking it more and more as Jamie keeps talking.

Why?

[TheMadMonarch]

True fact: As an undergrad I was known as "Red Jamie" due to both my hair colour and my support for Communism.

But turning back to this game, why are you voting me? Tell me about my "vibe" and what you think my normal vibe is?

Your normal vibe is blue. A bit lighter than mod colour blue.

Could you explain this using language and concepts that normal human beings would understand?

Ok. It's a vibe read. Is that what you want?

[Jamiet99uk]

Your normal vibe is blue. A bit lighter than mod colour blue.

Could you explain this using language and concepts that normal human beings would understand?

Ok. It's a vibe read. Is that what you want?

No.

I want you to explain it.

"Vibe" is not an explanation.

[TheMadMonarch]

So to summarise my wagon:

Bob doesn't like me.
Ghug's vote was a comedy vote.
Chaqa's vote was a comedy vote.
Macca sees colours.
Maniac wants me to be angry.

These are not real arguments.
These are not genuine cases.
The wagon on me is fake.

The wagon is not fake, as clearly evidenced by all the votes on it. The wagon exists.

How strong are the arguments on support of the wagon? Well, that is a different question. One which seems to have different responses from different players.

I like it, and I'm liking it more and more as Jamie keeps talking.

Why?

I don't like the manner in which you're defending yourself.

I could be wrong; I've been wrong plenty of times before.

[TheMadMonarch]

Could you explain this using language and concepts that normal human beings would understand?

Ok. It's a vibe read. Is that what you want?

No.

I want you to explain it.

"Vibe" is not an explanation.

I'm sorry mate, but that's about all your gonna get.