Mafia 65: Dreamland II [Hidden]

[celaph]

This wagon on me can go away. Thanks.

nah i like the wagon on you
maybe i should vote you
its better than bona
##vote jamie

Why do you like the Jamie wagon?

[celaph]

Why do I sort of scumread Jamie, list that consists of one reason:

He's meaner in snark when scum compared to town. When he's town he'll be all "you witless fuck, shove it up your ass" and you're like "hell yes, harder Jamie"
- but when he's scum the response it generates is more of "the fuck, was this a line?"

People in the mini-game said that Jamie has been working to tone down that aspect of his town play. Would that change how you're reading him here?

[BobMcBob]

Next thoughts.

I don't like Jamie, his vibe is much redder than it normally is.

##VOTE Jamie

Bob: it is a little funny that you haven't read your role PM, but it's also quite annoying. We're waiting for you in our QT, and you just aren't arriving!

Also not a Vecna fan... Don't know why yet, but I'm not.

Weird question: do you have synesthesia? I'm curious if that is why you associate players with colors.

Agree on your last point as well. Though it's possible I'm just hedging after getting beaten last game. I guess we'll see.

apparently yes, they said so last game
ive known them for 5 years and didnt know until then

[BobMcBob]

Agreed. Also, like their take on my advice regarding kgray. Maybe I just like hearing that I'm town, but I think their thought process there was good.

fox hoping for quality seems like just a fox thing to me

Do you have a read on fox's play so far? Any insights into how you expect them to play given past experiences?

analytically
a few long posts
everything capitalised correctly with punctuation
maybe make a spreadsheet as well
actually they may have been scum in that game i cant remember

[BobMcBob]

This wagon on me can go away. Thanks.

nah i like the wagon on you
maybe i should vote you
its better than bona
##vote jamie

Why do you like the Jamie wagon?

because i dont like jamie
also hes not angry enough at some things
and way too angry at others
in a way counter to what id expect

[celaph]

Reasoning, please?

Comedy

Lets kill this please

##vote Chaqa

This just feels like it lacks the critical thought that I normally associate with Vecna. Of all the people with poor reasons to vote Jamie, why is this the one that you want to push? I can't help but feel that Chaqa was chosen because he's easy to push. He's rather feared after M62 and few will actively come out of the woodwork to push back despite a poor day like they will do with others.

[celaph]

fox hoping for quality seems like just a fox thing to me

Do you have a read on fox's play so far? Any insights into how you expect them to play given past experiences?

analytically
a few long posts
everything capitalised correctly with punctuation
maybe make a spreadsheet as well
actually they may have been scum in that game i cant remember

According to the bot you've played one game as town when they were scum and one game as scum when they were town.

[TheMadMonarch]

Next thoughts.

I don't like Jamie, his vibe is much redder than it normally is.

##VOTE Jamie

Bob: it is a little funny that you haven't read your role PM, but it's also quite annoying. We're waiting for you in our QT, and you just aren't arriving!

Also not a Vecna fan... Don't know why yet, but I'm not.

Weird question: do you have synesthesia? I'm curious if that is why you associate players with colors.

Agree on your last point as well. Though it's possible I'm just hedging after getting beaten last game. I guess we'll see.

Given that I think through colours, most probably. I also think all smells have particular colours.

[BobMcBob]

Do you have a read on fox's play so far? Any insights into how you expect them to play given past experiences?

analytically
a few long posts
everything capitalised correctly with punctuation
maybe make a spreadsheet as well
actually they may have been scum in that game i cant remember

According to the bot you've played one game as town when they were scum and one game as scum when they were town.

was the scum one m50?
i think thats where i remember them from

[Vecna]

Why do I sort of scumread Jamie, list that consists of one reason:

He's meaner in snark when scum compared to town. When he's town he'll be all "you witless fuck, shove it up your ass" and you're like "hell yes, harder Jamie"
- but when he's scum the response it generates is more of "the fuck, was this a line?"

While I guess I can sort of agree...

Im missing your whimsical aura of "all the secrets of the universe are mine" and more importantly "I know somethiiiiiiing - and you guuuuuys doooo-oooont".

[Vecna]

if he were town the item is so important to him and he keeps talking about it. like idk

He talked about it once. Its a gimmick thats supposed to make us go "lets wait untill tomororw". And tomorrow "he put himself up to die, clearly scum wouldnt do it".

It applies to all the dumb fuck reasoning centers of the brain so he can lurk another game and start trying in the endgame.

KILL.WITH.FIRE

[damo666]

Macca has invented a word.

"Increadible"

That's the most important thing I have gleaned from a rubbish day 1 so far.

##vote Macca

Applying the EMC-Metric, I guess this is town damo?

No disagreement here as of yet. @damo you have to admit that's a good pun though.

Agread.

[Vecna]

we cant afford stupid elims. the game has 6 bad guys. were completely fucked if we lose even two days to the dark forces

Hmm, pretty good feelings, but not liking this weird posturing-post much

seems like standard bb to me

Scum bb also seems like standard bb to everyone. Your point being?

Some people are good at imitating their towngame. Doesnt mean you shouldnt try to solve them and push them. Brainbomb is probably better than me at it.

I think Brainbomb has done absolutely nothing to make him stand out as town.

[BobMcBob]

Hmm, pretty good feelings, but not liking this weird posturing-post much

seems like standard bb to me

Scum bb also seems like standard bb to everyone. Your point being?

Some people are good at imitating their towngame. Doesnt mean you shouldnt try to solve them and push them. Brainbomb is probably better than me at it.

I think Brainbomb has done absolutely nothing to make him stand out as town.

my point, since you asked, being that i do not think this "posturing post" is ai

[Maniac]

I’m switching back to ##vote Jamie.

It’s interesting what others are saying about how angry he sometimes gets and his reactions generally.

In M64 when he was GM he gasped at my opening post. In M1016 as town he rallied against my opening post which was a flavour blog. In this game his reaction to my initial post was applause. Jamie’s reaction is more likely to be scummy than town.

I had, only a few hours ago, gave Jamie town cred for announcing he was off to bed then staying around for 1hr+. I thought it could be town indicative that he has a desire to solve the puzzle. However it’s far too early to solve the puzzle and perhaps he is just worried scum hoping to talk his way out of a D1 kill.

[Vecna]

Comedy

Lets kill this please

##vote Chaqa

This just feels like it lacks the critical thought that I normally associate with Vecna. Of all the people with poor reasons to vote Jamie, why is this the one that you want to push? I can't help but feel that Chaqa was chosen because he's easy to push. He's rather feared after M62 and few will actively come out of the woodwork to push back despite a poor day like they will do with others.

Go and read back the games where Chaqa has been trying and is actively playing in a pro-town manner.

If he wants to try and tank his town-game to just be able to lurk out his scumgames I will gladly kill him D1 every single game.

Also, what critical thought are you looking for? He is actively making it so that no critical thought can be applied.

[Vecna]

Why do I sort of scumread Jamie, list that consists of one reason:

He's meaner in snark when scum compared to town. When he's town he'll be all "you witless fuck, shove it up your ass" and you're like "hell yes, harder Jamie"
- but when he's scum the response it generates is more of "the fuck, was this a line?"

People in the mini-game said that Jamie has been working to tone down that aspect of his town play. Would that change how you're reading him here?

That person was me fabricating bullshit though (even though he did make an effort to make himself less toxic)

[Vecna]

Comedy

Lets kill this please

##vote Chaqa

This just feels like it lacks the critical thought that I normally associate with Vecna. Of all the people with poor reasons to vote Jamie, why is this the one that you want to push? I can't help but feel that Chaqa was chosen because he's easy to push. He's rather feared after M62 and few will actively come out of the woodwork to push back despite a poor day like they will do with others.

Also, I dont actually oppose the wagon, and this has nothing to do with Chaqa voting Jamiet. It might just as well be a bus-vote.

Im not certain quite yet on Jamiets alignment, but the wagon there is fine.

Chaqa wagon, much better.

[damo666]

Don't like the Chaqa or Jamie wagons and indifferent to Bona.

I find kgray's lack of participation suspicious.

##vote kgray

And before I am accused of hypocrisy I am often a low poster day 1.

[Vecna]

How can you not like the chaqa wagon?

Why?