Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

[celaph]

oh fuck good shot!! vig should claim now i think

Vig don't claim unless you feel a need to. I'd rather have a townclear around late in the game.

[kgray]

It's pretty obvious we should vote in the first pool. I am torn between Durga and Vecna. I want to do some re-read tomorrow before voting.

Why Vecna?

Because the way he jumped from Bozo to Damo on D1.

We have just one miskill left, we need to get it right today.

He was really vocal about killing Durga, she called him out in the game to save her, and he brought up good points about bozo being scummy. You think he throws his teammates under the bus like that?

[kgray]

RIP, Maniac
rip in smaller words, Bona, because that was a silly waste of time wasn't it?

Good shot, Vig!

Celaph could be vig, they were the only person who voted bozo.

I'mma just sit silent and take a sip from this nice glass of wine in front of me.

He was hardly the only person scumreading bozo, though.

[rdrivera2005]

Why Vecna?

Because the way he jumped from Bozo to Damo on D1.

We have just one miskill left, we need to get it right today.

He was really vocal about killing Durga, she called him out in the game to save her, and he brought up good points about bozo being scummy. You think he throws his teammates under the bus like that?

I think that could be classic distancing. He was sure Jamiet was scum, then pushed Bozo and then took the way out to end the day on Damo that he never pushed.
Not a strong case but I don't townread him for this.

[rdrivera2005]

@Kgray - You are voting Durga. Do you think Bozo bussed her both days?

This and the lack of movement at EOD today is giving me some pause on my scumread on Durga.

[lfischl]

8 players remain

2 scum
6 town

1 - 2 scum in the pool of Celaph / Durga / Kgray / Vecna (at least 1 guaranteed)

0 - 1 scum may be in the pool of Dargorygel / Jamiet99uk / lfischl / Rdrivera2005.

Okay this is actually really helpful, thanks brain!

I'm feeling very, very good about celaph, and very good about Vecna. I don't think he'd call out his teammate bozo like he did, and I think Durga's interactions with bozo are really scummy. So I think Durga is scum, and for Vecna to be scum he'd have to be bussing/scumreading both his teammates and that seems really unlikely in this game.

So I'm reasonably confident the final scum is in darg/Jamie/lfischl/Rivera.

Town to scum on them is probably something like: darg < Jamie < lfischl < Rivera? But I sort of townread all of them tbh

For the last part I feel the same.

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8 players remain

2 scum
6 town

1 - 2 scum in the pool of Celaph / Durga / Kgray / Vecna (at least 1 guaranteed)

0 - 1 scum may be in the pool of Dargorygel / Jamiet99uk / lfischl / Rdrivera2005.

It's pretty obvious we should vote in the first pool. I am torn between Durga and Vecna. I want to do some re-read tomorrow before voting.
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To be honest I have townreads on everyone in the second group+celaph. I think it’s Durga+kgray or vecna.
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Why do you townread Rivera?
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I don’t really townread him, I just don’t think he’s scum compared to you, vecna and Durga. ##vote durga

[lfischl]

Oh I messed up the quote

[Durga]

Ok why would bozo stay on me when the vote was literally 5 v 6 if we were scum together and when it was so easy to move on bona? Bozo just parked his vote on me both days and fucked off.

[Durga]

Man I'm tired and the thought of fighting this again is exhausting, honestly bozo's flip should practically clear me. Whatever nonsense kgray is talking about me being awkward around bozo is ridiculous. He was hardly here, you can apply that logic to half this game.

##vote kgray because I feel like she's just "saved" me twice to set me up for a later miskill and this bozo argument just proves that

[kgray]

@Kgray - You are voting Durga. Do you think Bozo bussed her both days?

This and the lack of movement at EOD today is giving me some pause on my scumread on Durga.

I'm not sure... I know bozo generally doesn't bus hard, but the way he voted for her D1 isn't too dissimilar for how he bused summit in M60. And maybe on D2 he thought there was no chance that she wouldn't be the kill? When he voted her she was already way in the lead. I'll have to go back to look at the details.

[kgray]

Ok why would bozo stay on me when the vote was literally 5 v 6 if we were scum together and when it was so easy to move on bona? Bozo just parked his vote on me both days and fucked off.

Bozo's last post yesterday was 3 hours before EOD, so he could have just not been around when you had a counterwagon?

[kgray]

I don’t really townread him, I just don’t think he’s scum compared to you, vecna and Durga. ##vote durga

But you have to have some reason for thinking he's towny, no? Can you remind me why you think me, Durga and Vecna are scummy?

[kgray]

Man I'm tired and the thought of fighting this again is exhausting, honestly bozo's flip should practically clear me. Whatever nonsense kgray is talking about me being awkward around bozo is ridiculous. He was hardly here, you can apply that logic to half this game.

##vote kgray because I feel like she's just "saved" me twice to set me up for a later miskill and this bozo argument just proves that

Why didn't you vote for bozo D1 when he was your counterwagon and you'd not read the game?

[Vecna]

How on earth did you end up killing Bona of all people lmao?

Happy to see I can at least be correct on Bozo once in a lifetime.

Im sure thisll be an interesting read.

[Vecna]

I don't think bona is scummy though? Why do people think bona is scummy?

Rivera really doesn't want to answer this question, and I can't be his spokesperson if I don't know what he's thinking.

##vote bozo for competitive wagons

Bonatogether was justifying his scum motivated votes as keeping that wagons close in the last game, I think he could have been doing that D1 as well.

If you think Bona could be scum why aren't you doing an in-depth D1 VCA of him like you normally do when you're town?

Another point reflecting pretty good on Kgray. People continuously calling out Bozo like this is probably one of the reasons why he ended up vigged.

[Vecna]

##vote bona

I really dont get your urge to move your vote though

[Vecna]

I could force Celaph to make a choice, I suppose.

What does this mean?

It means I could ##Vote Bona.

Now it's tied and Celaph is the only person not on a Group 1 wagon.

The level of mental gymnastics that must go on in your brain Jamiet.

Scumread Durga? Check
Scumread Kgray? Check
Viable Durga wagon? Check
Sheep Kgray onto Bona? Obviously

[Vecna]

What does this mean?

It means I could ##Vote Bona.

Now it's tied and Celaph is the only person not on a Group 1 wagon.

I can partially clear myself and so you should vote someone else

Guess durga ultimately got saved by silly failed town gimmicks

[Vecna]

OK. Would you be willing to start a kgray wagon?

Very cool that I'm last btw

literally i'm sorry but bona has posted practically nothing substantive (and he's actually been around) and he continues to just react to his name and not much else. i'm pretty sure he's scum here

But what have you done this game. You can’t be saying that bona isn’t doing anything for town when you did nothing day 1.

Shading Durga after a potential counter wagon popped up. Seems very unlikely to come from scum in the likely event that Durga is scum.

[Vecna]

DAY 2 VOTE COUNT n+1.0

Bonatogether (6): rdrivera2005, dargorygel, Durga, kgray, Jimmyt99uk, celaph, Durga (5): Bonatogether, Vecna, Maniac, bozotheclown, lfischl

Currently, Bona''s on track to be outta here. 57 minutes remain.

I like that this is becoming a meme