Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

[Jamiet99uk]

You feel Bona reacted anxious to the Brainbomb reveal?

Yes.

[Jamiet99uk]

Note: The Bot appears to be semi-broken. It is not picking up any posts by Durga but in fact she's posted at least three times today. I've sent a PM to the GMs. Maybe Darg can also help.

[Jamiet99uk]

I literally said I'm going read it tomorrow chill...

It's tomorrow now.
Tell us what you've read.

[bozotheclown]

It is interesting that all 5 Jamie voters ended up voting for damo and never voted for Durga, but they can't all be scum. However, we know at least one is scum, and whoever that is avoided the Durga wagon. Bonatogether, celaph, and Vecna also voted for me between voting for Jamie and damo when I was a counter wagon to Durga.

It looks like there may have been an attempt to save Durga, so finding out Durga's alignment gives us the most information about D1.

##VOTE Durga

[BunnyGo]

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[BunnyGo]

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[BunnyGo]

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[Jamiet99uk]

I, for one, am very interested in Durga's posts and I hope she decides to participate today.

It's Durga or Kray today, for me.

[Vecna]

It is interesting that all 5 Jamie voters ended up voting for damo and never voted for Durga, but they can't all be scum. However, we know at least one is scum, and whoever that is avoided the Durga wagon. Bonatogether, celaph, and Vecna also voted for me between voting for Jamie and damo when I was a counter wagon to Durga.

It looks like there may have been an attempt to save Durga, so finding out Durga's alignment gives us the most information about D1.

##VOTE Durga

Did actually all 5 move like that?

Also why, specifically, was Durga saved?

Why not Jamiet? Why not you (from our pov)?

[Jamiet99uk]

It is interesting that all 5 Jamie voters ended up voting for damo and never voted for Durga, but they can't all be scum. However, we know at least one is scum, and whoever that is avoided the Durga wagon. Bonatogether, celaph, and Vecna also voted for me between voting for Jamie and damo when I was a counter wagon to Durga.

It looks like there may have been an attempt to save Durga, so finding out Durga's alignment gives us the most information about D1.

##VOTE Durga

Did actually all 5 move like that?

Yes.

Just to address this specific point, Bozo is entirely correct in each of these points:

1. All 5 of the people in Group 1 (i.e. people who voted for me at some point) ended up on the Damo wagon at the end. Fact.

2. None of those 5 people EVER voted for Durga. Fact.

3. It's also true that 3 of these 5 moved from me to Damo via a vote on Bozo.

Interesting.

[Vecna]

@Kgray - why were you so opposed to a Durga vs Bozo D1?

[Jamiet99uk]

@Bozotheclown
@Vecna

What do you think about my observations on Kgray, and specifically the way she pushed the Damo wagon without (a) having a good reason for it, and (b) without asking him any questions?

I'd really like your thoughts, and if possible I'd like you to specifically address both (a) and (b).

Thank you in advance.

[bozotheclown]

It is interesting that all 5 Jamie voters ended up voting for damo and never voted for Durga, but they can't all be scum. However, we know at least one is scum, and whoever that is avoided the Durga wagon. Bonatogether, celaph, and Vecna also voted for me between voting for Jamie and damo when I was a counter wagon to Durga.

It looks like there may have been an attempt to save Durga, so finding out Durga's alignment gives us the most information about D1.

##VOTE Durga

Did actually all 5 move like that?

Also why, specifically, was Durga saved?

Why not Jamiet? Why not you (from our pov)?

It is true for all 5 that their first vote of D1 was for Jamie and their last vote was for damo. 3 of the 5, including yourself, voted for me as well, for their only other vote.

Durga was ahead with less than an hour left in the day, and the last 4 votes were for damo, I don't think it is a stretch to say it looks like she may have been saved.

Jamie was safe before all of the damo votes with the exception of kgray's vote.

I was never the lead wagon near EOD, so if you think I was being bussed, the busser would have had to move their vote off of me at a poor time to get credit for a bus. Durga and kgray are the only players who voted for Jamie and damo without voting for me.

[Vecna]

I really hate having to admit im probably changing my mind on jamiet

[Vecna]

@Bozotheclown
@Vecna

What do you think about my observations on Kgray, and specifically the way she pushed the Damo wagon without (a) having a good reason for it, and (b) without asking him any questions?

I'd really like your thoughts, and if possible I'd like you to specifically address both (a) and (b).

Thank you in advance.

This question becomes a lot easier to answer after we see Durga's flip imo. Regardless, I dont see why she'd focus on damo while there was a much easier Bozo wagon there.

[Vecna]

Having said that, im pretty sure Kgray is town. I dont think she can fake this level of gentle suspicion towards me in such a natural way.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Bozotheclown
@Vecna

What do you think about my observations on Kgray, and specifically the way she pushed the Damo wagon without (a) having a good reason for it, and (b) without asking him any questions?

I'd really like your thoughts, and if possible I'd like you to specifically address both (a) and (b).

Thank you in advance.

This question becomes a lot easier to answer after we see Durga's flip imo. Regardless, I dont see why she'd focus on damo while there was a much easier Bozo wagon there.

I agree, and I want to flip Durga, but right now, don't you think it's interesting / weird, having seen Kgray play several times before, how she didn't question Damo while yelling for people to join his wagon?

[Vecna]

I need to revisit my Celaph logic from D1 as well.

I had some thoughts that made his handling of the jamiet thing look pretty suspicious in case Jamiet was town and I was wrongfully tunneling there, but disregarded them because I was convinced Jamiet was scum anyway.

[Jamiet99uk]

Having said that, im pretty sure Kgray is town. I dont think she can fake this level of gentle suspicion towards me in such a natural way.

You seem to be deflecting a little here. I really want you to comment on the fact that Kgray did not question Damo, while pushing a Damo wagon she started for no particularly clear reason.

[Vecna]

@Bozotheclown
@Vecna

What do you think about my observations on Kgray, and specifically the way she pushed the Damo wagon without (a) having a good reason for it, and (b) without asking him any questions?

I'd really like your thoughts, and if possible I'd like you to specifically address both (a) and (b).

Thank you in advance.

This question becomes a lot easier to answer after we see Durga's flip imo. Regardless, I dont see why she'd focus on damo while there was a much easier Bozo wagon there.

I agree, and I want to flip Durga, but right now, don't you think it's interesting / weird, having seen Kgray play several times before, how she didn't question Damo while yelling for people to join his wagon?

Sort of invalidates my earlier question, but im guessing its because of personal reasons and she just likes playing with Bozo and Durga and didnt want to see them as competing wagons.