Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

[rdrivera2005]

Did that help identify them? It looks like both of their roles did have night actions.

I don't think it factored into people's reads. The point was that if they were town then obviously that helps scum find PRs.

This is such a weird conversation for you to be having.

Why do you think that? If it is something that could still be taken advantage of in this game, then it is not an "out of game" thing, like you previously said. If the scum could try to identify the PRs in this game by monitoring who is writing PMs, the PRs should be aware of that.

This is a valid point, considering this game only town's write PMs. Of course there is a bunch of other reasons to write PMs and I imagine a VT might choose to keep a PM window open all day to bait a NK....


Or we just ignore this and play with sportsmanship without trying to game the system.

[Jamiet99uk]

what would make anyone think I am scum with Jamie

If someone is scum out of Jamie and brain, its definitely brain.

There I fixed it for you.

[lfischl]

Whats weird is that bona loves mafia but isnt playing

Though this is a good point. Bona is usually one of the more talkative people So I am surprised that he hasn't posted once.

[Vecna]

why are you so disruptive nils?

What are you talking about?

[kgray]

what would make anyone think I am scum with Jamie

If someone is scum out of jaime and brain, its definitely brain.

Why?

[Vecna]

The problem with using it as a one-shot Cop is that it gives you a 50/50 trade of a Town PR for either a single Scum Guilty or Town Clear, and nothing more.

Damo's proposed question could provide the following results, among others:

1. In the best possible outcome, it could provide three townclears, which in a game of this size would be very powerful indeed for Town

2. Or, if the answer is "yes" that there is at least one scum in the given pool of three, this means that Scum effectively cannot kill the 1 or 2 townies in that pool, because if they do so, they will out their team-mate.

I agree damo's suggestion is better than using the Asker as a cop.

Another possibility is to divide the 12 remaining players into 2 groups of 6, and ask "are there more scum in group 1 than group 2". This could solve the game late in the game when 1 or 2 scum have been found and we are down to a few players. For instance, if we found 1 scum in the group with less scum, all remaining players in that group would be cleared.

This is quite a good idea too, Bozo.
I like this. Good work.

If it would work...

[lfischl]

what would make anyone think I am scum with Jamie

If someone is scum out of jaime and brain, its definitely brain.

Why?

Im not saying that brain is scum, Im saying that if it is one of Brain and Jaime, I think its brain because Jaime seems more towny to me.

[kgray]

If someone is scum out of jaime and brain, its definitely brain.

Why?

Im not saying that brain is scum, Im saying that if it is one of Brain and Jaime, I think its brain because Jaime seems more towny to me.

Yeah I understood what you meant. But what is it about Jamie that makes him seem townier than brain?

[Vecna]

I really appreciate you trying to get people to play Jamie. Please do not think I do not appreciate the things you are doing. I feel strongly enough that you are town that it directly is influencing my vecna scrumread

Thats a pretty towny post at least

[Vecna]

Did that help identify them? It looks like both of their roles did have night actions.

I don't think it factored into people's reads. The point was that if they were town then obviously that helps scum find PRs.

This is such a weird conversation for you to be having.

Why do you think that? If it is something that could still be taken advantage of in this game, then it is not an "out of game" thing, like you previously said. If the scum could try to identify the PRs in this game by monitoring who is writing PMs, the PRs should be aware of that.

And the fact that Bozo is actually trying to double down and defend his weird nonsense, instead of flying low and just tunneling some easy targets probably also means...something.

[Vecna]

what would make anyone think I am scum with Jamie

If someone is scum out of jaime and brain, its definitely brain.

What makes you say that?

[Vecna]

If everyone thinks Jamiet is town without having withnessed his epic blowups, its because he is posturing and is actually scum.

When he's town he is nearly always on the verge of death because noone likes his shit.

[Vecna]

but im sure ill just be ignored again like the last few times

[Vecna]

##vote Jamiet

[Bonatogether]

I believe Jamie is town.

If I say I'm not scum, can I be town too?

[lfischl]

Why?

Im not saying that brain is scum, Im saying that if it is one of Brain and Jaime, I think its brain because Jaime seems more towny to me.

Yeah I understood what you meant. But what is it about Jamie that makes him seem townier than brain?

In my opinion I think his posts are more towny than brains.

but im sure ill just be ignored again like the last few times

Is it actually that no one listens to you or is it that you're just wrong.

[Vecna]

the first

[Vecna]

Interesting that you did not consider the 3rd alternative though iftschl

[Bonatogether]

would bona just not post and lay low after seeing how big talking went for him?

I woke up half an hour ago

[kgray]

Im not saying that brain is scum, Im saying that if it is one of Brain and Jaime, I think its brain because Jaime seems more towny to me.

Yeah I understood what you meant. But what is it about Jamie that makes him seem townier than brain?

In my opinion I think his posts are more towny than brains.

but im sure ill just be ignored again like the last few times

Is it actually that no one listens to you or is it that you're just wrong.

I would really like to know *what* it is about his posts that you find townier. Are they more helpful? Funnier? More open? More solvey?

Also I think lfischl is either town or scum with Vecna.