Mafia 1016: America's Past-Crime [HIDDEN]

[brainbomb]

my rvs on kgray comes from being in a game where we knew each others alignment. immediate pressure on her was definetely essential because we worked well together last game as partners. I think it is a recipe for success to have established an understanding of kgray early. I would not want to ignore her and I assume she would want me to be town so we can work together.

I wasnt satisfied enough after rvs and her two nothing posts to move my vote

[rdrivera2005]

im now imagining rdrivera curling on a beach

Curling on a beach wouldn't work

In fact we have something more or less like it that is played with colored balls in the sand, don't know how it's called in English, in Portuguese it's called bocha.

[Jamiet99uk]

my rvs on kgray comes from being in a game where we knew each others alignment. immediate pressure on her was definetely essential because we worked well together last game as partners. I think it is a recipe for success to have established an understanding of kgray early. I would not want to ignore her and I assume she would want me to be town so we can work together.

I wasnt satisfied enough after rvs and her two nothing posts to move my vote

But you townread her now, yes?
Your top scumread is now Vecna.

[brainbomb]

my rvs on kgray comes from being in a game where we knew each others alignment. immediate pressure on her was definetely essential because we worked well together last game as partners. I think it is a recipe for success to have established an understanding of kgray early. I would not want to ignore her and I assume she would want me to be town so we can work together.

I wasnt satisfied enough after rvs and her two nothing posts to move my vote

But you townread her now, yes?
Your top scumread is now Vecna.

I dont know about kgray.
vecna just seems like hes doing a wrecking ball scum banzai charge

[Jamiet99uk]

im now imagining rdrivera curling on a beach

Curling on a beach wouldn't work

In fact we have something more or less like it that is played with colored balls in the sand, don't know how it's called in English, in Portuguese it's called bocha.

Ah, we call that game "bowls" although we play it on grass. The French game "pétanque" is also very similar.

[rdrivera2005]

##vote vecna

Is Rivera going to be next so you can complete the set?

no? I dont find riverdance scummy

Nah, I don't dance.

[Jamiet99uk]

The year is 2003. There is a Nokia Brick™ in your pocket. You also own a digital camera, and possibly an MP3 player, if you’re hip. People still watch baseball.

You're saying that people don't watch baseball? That's just wrong.

This is Ifischl's only post.

Sad.

[Jamiet99uk]

Durga's contributions to the game so far:

1. Complaining about the [HIDDEN] tag.
2. Complaining about the colour of some text.
3. That's all.

Woops, sorry let me post my manifesto of thoughts on the 4 page game rn

It is now page 11.
Tell us your thoughts, oh Durgalady.

[kgray]

I read the post game comments and you and ghug said something about not thinking what BunnyGo did was appropriate, and I did not know what you were referring to, other than something about the online status, but it seemed to be related to Jamie's suggestion to get rid of the "Who is Online" option.

He mentioned that celaph and Maniac were reading/writing PMs at EON, which implied they were PRs with orders to send to the GMs.

Did that help identify them? It looks like both of their roles did have night actions.

I don't think it factored into people's reads. The point was that if they were town then obviously that helps scum find PRs.

This is such a weird conversation for you to be having.

[Jamiet99uk]

He mentioned that celaph and Maniac were reading/writing PMs at EON, which implied they were PRs with orders to send to the GMs.

Did that help identify them? It looks like both of their roles did have night actions.

I don't think it factored into people's reads. The point was that if they were town then obviously that helps scum find PRs.

This is such a weird conversation for you to be having.

I agree.

Bozo, rather than talk about the previous actions of someone who is now the co-GM in this game, in the last game, could you talk about the players in this game instead? Finding BunnyGo's alignment is not our task today.

[kgray]

I don't think curling was ever played here in Brasil. I just thought on the second most boring game I can remember....

Rivera is officially NOT my spokesperson this game. Curling isn't boring at all! It's silly and hilarious.

I never played curling (no ice here), it's probably funny as you say. But watching it at Winter Olympics is painfully boring (almost as boring as baseball).

This said, I always thought YOU was MY spokesperson and not the contrary.

I think I've nominated you to be my spokesperson before! But you're right, usually it's the other way around

[brainbomb]

Whats weird is that bona loves mafia but isnt playing

[bozotheclown]

Curling on a beach wouldn't work

In fact we have something more or less like it that is played with colored balls in the sand, don't know how it's called in English, in Portuguese it's called bocha.

Ah, we call that game "bowls" although we play it on grass. The French game "pétanque" is also very similar.

In the US it is bocce, assuming that is the same thing.

[brainbomb]

ifischl just does things different. he participates in my rpg sporadically.

[brainbomb]

I really appreciate you trying to get people to play Jamie. Please do not think I do not appreciate the things you are doing. I feel strongly enough that you are town that it directly is influencing my vecna scrumread

[bozotheclown]

He mentioned that celaph and Maniac were reading/writing PMs at EON, which implied they were PRs with orders to send to the GMs.

Did that help identify them? It looks like both of their roles did have night actions.

I don't think it factored into people's reads. The point was that if they were town then obviously that helps scum find PRs.

This is such a weird conversation for you to be having.

Why do you think that? If it is something that could still be taken advantage of in this game, then it is not an "out of game" thing, like you previously said. If the scum could try to identify the PRs in this game by monitoring who is writing PMs, the PRs should be aware of that.

[kgray]

Maybe read my posts.

Ridiculous. You've yet to explain what you find scummy about brain's interaction with me.

You're so negative. You should try to receive all phenomena with equanimity.

To re-state what I said before, I didn't like the fact that Brainbomb voted you, and then, after that, said that he didn't have a solid scumread on you. At the same time, he kept his vote on you. That looked really sketchy to me, and I called it out. It's not much but it was page 3 or 4 of the game and not much else had happened worthy of comment.

I guess I just don't see *why* you think it's really sketchy. I think it'd have been more sketchy if he did move his vote so quickly after I made so few posts.

[brainbomb]

I think we established that abusing the messaging system would lead to a mad gm. my advice is to send orders to ghug on discord. hes not that hard to find.

ghuggles#1107

[rdrivera2005]

The problem with using it as a one-shot Cop is that it gives you a 50/50 trade of a Town PR for either a single Scum Guilty or Town Clear, and nothing more.

Damo's proposed question could provide the following results, among others:

1. In the best possible outcome, it could provide three townclears, which in a game of this size would be very powerful indeed for Town

2. Or, if the answer is "yes" that there is at least one scum in the given pool of three, this means that Scum effectively cannot kill the 1 or 2 townies in that pool, because if they do so, they will out their team-mate.

I agree damo's suggestion is better than using the Asker as a cop.

Another possibility is to divide the 12 remaining players into 2 groups of 6, and ask "are there more scum in group 1 than group 2". This could solve the game late in the game when 1 or 2 scum have been found and we are down to a few players. For instance, if we found 1 scum in the group with less scum, all remaining players in that group would be cleared.

This is quite a good idea too, Bozo.
I like this. Good work.

I like this idea as QA could rearrange the groups while he is still alive. It could become even better if we catch one scum as if one group have more scum it means the remaining two scum are there. Depending on the size of the group it's autowin.
Using it as a cop have a big chance to return an inno that will just be next Mafia kill. Maybe it works if QA is alive until the end.

[lfischl]

what would make anyone think I am scum with Jamie

If someone is scum out of jaime and brain, its definitely brain.