MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[BobMcBob]

Bob, I do think your collection of claims/scans/whatever is awfully suspect or convenient.

The question is, if I'm not conspiracy theorist and am just pulling something out of thin air on Maniac (which would already be a huge risk), why wouldn't I take some other much smaller risks with my irrelevant scan claims?

I'd argue that you did .

Also Maniac's not a risk if you had info on him through other means.

Yes, I worked out that's what you were implying. I'm not that dumb. Also how would I have "other means"?

[ghug]

The question is, if I'm not conspiracy theorist and am just pulling something out of thin air on Maniac (which would already be a huge risk), why wouldn't I take some other much smaller risks with my irrelevant scan claims?

I'd argue that you did .

Also Maniac's not a risk if you had info on him through other means.

Yes, I worked out that's what you were implying. I'm not that dumb. Also how would I have "other means"?

However bona did. There are mafia investigative roles.

[BobMcBob]

Also I had ample reason to scan those people when I did. Ghug was scumread by quite a few people, HR was... questionable, celaph was also questionable, and bona hadn't been scanned. I was told to use my action among 4 targets, including bona. Then Maniac was pretty suspicious, up with jasnah.

[BobMcBob]

I'd argue that you did .

Also Maniac's not a risk if you had info on him through other means.

Yes, I worked out that's what you were implying. I'm not that dumb. Also how would I have "other means"?

However bona did. There are mafia investigative roles.

Unless there's an underdog, no. There's a role cop, but it's loud.

[Vecna]

Theres a tracker

[Vecna]

Anyways, im sure someone can parrot Maniac tonight. It should be trivial to confirm which of you two is speaking the truth here :)

[BobMcBob]

Theres a tracker

Tracker can't confirm anything at all.

[BobMcBob]

Anyways, im sure someone can parrot Maniac tonight. It should be trivial to confirm which of you two is speaking the truth here :)

Okay then, we'll see

[Vecna]

Also:

Alien Bloodsucker - Seems very unlikely that this role is around with the claimed PR's we've had. But then again, having me around as a treestump is probably not something theyd want either. Still, Highly unlikely to be in play.

Alien Intercessor - Noone has claimed to be unable to vote yet. They might have holstered it for a lategame surprise since depriving people of votes it not that usefull early game. Unknown whether it exists, but quite likely the only surprise possibility about.

Alien One-shot Mass Redirector - Highly unlikely to exist due to no useage

Alien Prober - Dead

Alien Psychotrooper - Dead

Alien Sympathiser x2 - The roles that can actually exist still. Take note of this, the remaining aliens are likely to have claimed vanilla.

Alien Vanillaiser - Highly unlikely to exist due to no useage

[Vecna]

Theres a tracker

Tracker can't confirm anything at all.

With faction knowledge, theres so many deductions you can make with a tracker if youre tracking what everyone is claiming.

[ghug]

Also I had ample reason to scan those people when I did. Ghug was scumread by quite a few people, HR was... questionable, celaph was also questionable, and bona hadn't been scanned. I was told to use my action among 4 targets, including bona. Then Maniac was pretty suspicious, up with jasnah.

HR was very obviously anime to everyone but me, who was overthinking things and who wanted to kill him the next day. There's no way anyone scans him there. Celaph was a little more in question, though still made for a pretty terrible scan choice.

[ghug]

Also:

Alien Bloodsucker - Seems very unlikely that this role is around with the claimed PR's we've had. But then again, having me around as a treestump is probably not something theyd want either. Still, Highly unlikely to be in play.

Alien Intercessor - Noone has claimed to be unable to vote yet. They might have holstered it for a lategame surprise since depriving people of votes it not that usefull early game. Unknown whether it exists, but quite likely the only surprise possibility about.

Alien One-shot Mass Redirector - Highly unlikely to exist due to no useage

Alien Prober - Dead

Alien Psychotrooper - Dead

Alien Sympathiser x2 - The roles that can actually exist still. Take note of this, the remaining aliens are likely to have claimed vanilla.

Alien Vanillaiser - Highly unlikely to exist due to no useage

I think it's entirely possible the bloodsucker and the redirector could exist and just not have been used yet.

[BobMcBob]

Also:

Alien Bloodsucker - Seems very unlikely that this role is around with the claimed PR's we've had. But then again, having me around as a treestump is probably not something theyd want either. Still, Highly unlikely to be in play.

Alien Intercessor - Noone has claimed to be unable to vote yet. They might have holstered it for a lategame surprise since depriving people of votes it not that usefull early game. Unknown whether it exists, but quite likely the only surprise possibility about.

Alien One-shot Mass Redirector - Highly unlikely to exist due to no useage

Alien Prober - Dead

Alien Psychotrooper - Dead

Alien Sympathiser x2 - The roles that can actually exist still. Take note of this, the remaining aliens are likely to have claimed vanilla.

Alien Vanillaiser - Highly unlikely to exist due to no useage

I think it's entirely possible the bloodsucker and the redirector could exist and just not have been used yet.

This. Alien vanillaiser is almost certain to be not present, but the other two are more likely.

[BobMcBob]

Also I had ample reason to scan those people when I did. Ghug was scumread by quite a few people, HR was... questionable, celaph was also questionable, and bona hadn't been scanned. I was told to use my action among 4 targets, including bona. Then Maniac was pretty suspicious, up with jasnah.

HR was very obviously anime to everyone but me, who was overthinking things and who wanted to kill him the next day. There's no way anyone scans him there. Celaph was a little more in question, though still made for a pretty terrible scan choice.

Oh my bad, I should've known the optimal scanning strategies because of all my experience playing investigative roles and town PR's in general.

[jasnah]

@Bob Mcbob should scan between me and Ezio tonight as the two sympathiser candidates. Then he'll have to come down on one side of the fence or the other and either we get a likely clear or a new conflict. Perhaps this is obvious and was already entered, but after HR and two deads were scanned in a row it's hardly a stretch to call for a little government intervention here

[BobMcBob]

@Bob Mcbob should scan between me and Ezio tonight as the two sympathiser candidates. Then he'll have to come down on one side of the fence or the other and either we get a likely clear or a new conflict. Perhaps this is obvious and was already entered, but after HR and two deads were scanned in a row it's hardly a stretch to call for a little government intervention here

Okay, makes sense. Would anyone prefer a particular scan target?

[jasnah]

@Bob Mcbob should scan between me and Ezio tonight as the two sympathiser candidates. Then he'll have to come down on one side of the fence or the other and either we get a likely clear or a new conflict. Perhaps this is obvious and was already entered, but after HR and two deads were scanned in a row it's hardly a stretch to call for a little government intervention here

Okay, makes sense. Would anyone prefer a particular scan target?

I would prefer me but given that I'm one of the two individuals in question, I doubt my opinion ought to count for much. Those who've been shading me and Ezio at various points should take the lead on this

[jasnah]

I left out earlier the possibility of tentacled townie too, which is a thing, but it's kinda stat unlikely and I'm tempted to say that if you're tentacled, tough luck, take one for the team and make subsequent reports reliable

[BobMcBob]

I left out earlier the possibility of tentacled townie too, which is a thing, but it's kinda stat unlikely and I'm tempted to say that if you're tentacled, tough luck, take one for the team and make subsequent reports reliable

This is a possibility lol. Unlikely, but it may happen. We're far enough ahead that it shouldn't be a massive problem luckily.

[damo666]

Are any of the Scanned Others possible to be alien?

All of them