MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[jasnah]

Also listen up, we need to start an Ezio wagon at some point. I know this has somewhat fallen out of fashion, but everything that was said about this when it was in fashion still applies

[jasnah]

@ghug, @brainbomb: Never fear, I don't think I'll be dk today but if I am on future date I will give full list of my scum and town before EoD. It'll probably be right, so we should be auto if I don't die at kilo, and I don't think I would.

Regarding some rumours I saw disseminated earlier, as promised I'm not claiming parrot. There is no need to get territorial about your claim space. There are many things I'll fight over but this isn't one of them

[BunnyGo]

Day 1:

Caught up reading.

For now I like Bob and Bona. I kind of like emc. He's barely written anything but I think that given the opportunity he would pick a town role, and at risk of doing too much mechs there's a pretty high chance of drawing at least one town card.

Would like to hear from Macca before EOD. I guess it's a somewhat better wagon than ghug but I'm not in love with it either.

How does jasnah know this much about emc? One of her first posts said for him to "vote for someone so I can get a townclear."

[Jamiet99uk]

##Call GM

If the Alien prober targets person X, but is also targeted by the Parrot, how would this resolve? Would he still RB person X and get a result there?

Second question: Would the alien prober's action be roleblocked if he got roleblocked by a different role? How is the priority ordering there?

1. In this scenario the Prober would roleblock themselves and take no other actions. It's somewhat of a special case because it's not just roleblock vs roleblock, but a case of the roleblocker roleblocking themself. Darg and I feel this self-roleblock would trump all other actions.

2. I have already answered this second scenario - see previously where I was asked about the Prober being Roleblocked by a JOAT.

[BunnyGo]

I think we're approaching EOD right? No way I can catch up with all this chat but it's better if my vote makes a difference than not

##vote celaph

This vote made it 8-6 (celaph - lfischl).

[celaph]

okay so a genius, is there a reason hes town?

celaph said so

Good answer!

[BunnyGo]

Town don't fucking let it be a tie. We need info. Idiots

VOTE CELAPH

However, is this a case of bussing a teammate who is not going to make the long haul?

[BunnyGo]

okay so a genius, is there a reason hes town?

celaph said so

Good answer!

I know, but I'm not going to be able to convince them you're useful without something else...can you answer either of my other questions?

[BunnyGo]

Bona is #1 on my shit list for sure, whether or not he's a town role, he's by far the single greatest impediment to town getting anything of use done so far. Take out the garbage Bona

Celaph-bona-jasnah alien team?

Bona was the deciding vote to save celaph after pushing...

[celaph]

Well, if celaph doesn't have a scan for us and there's no likelihood of him getting a scan off again while he gets rbed again and again, we might as well
##vote celaph.

This smells like the aliens decided they didn't want us getting more scans out, and they even might lie about future scan results now. Rather than risking that, we should eliminate celaph.

I'd honestly rather have no scan results than wifom scan results from here on in.

This sounds like lazy town opportunism.

If I was RB'd by JOAT then they can't target me again. If I was RB'd by parrot they just have to not target me and I get actual results.

Why Parrot would target you? This doesn't make any sense. Mafia JOAT could be possible, but why would he roleblock you instead of Vecna? The only real possibility I see here is Bob (or Bunny is making a really elaborated plan).
Another possibility is Celaph isn't the Prober, so he can't give a result right now.

Why don't you ask the parrot?

It does things like lets them confirm that I'm being honest about my role as how else would I know to claim RB'd?

[BunnyGo]

## Vote celaph

People seem to have lost interest in this wagon even though if anyone was protected yesterday it was likely to have been celaph or rdr, and town has thus far shown zero interest in pursuing a rdr wagon. Why?

quickly follows damo to "get it sorted"

[celaph]

Well, if celaph doesn't have a scan for us and there's no likelihood of him getting a scan off again while he gets rbed again and again, we might as well
##vote celaph.

This smells like the aliens decided they didn't want us getting more scans out, and they even might lie about future scan results now. Rather than risking that, we should eliminate celaph.

I'd honestly rather have no scan results than wifom scan results from here on in.

This sounds like lazy town opportunism.

If I was RB'd by JOAT then they can't target me again. If I was RB'd by parrot they just have to not target me and I get actual results.

That does make sense.

##vote jasnah.

But I don't think the others will help without some extra intel.

Maybe: Did the aliens target kgray? Did you see a chance to get close?

Or: Name another extant alien PR.

The aliens (me) have only targeted kgray insofar as she was a good target for pocketing. HR also seemed to target her whatever reason, tbh no idea what he was doing.

Extant alien PR: Redacted

[BunnyGo]

Bona is #1 on my shit list for sure, whether or not he's a town role, he's by far the single greatest impediment to town getting anything of use done so far. Take out the garbage Bona

Celaph-bona-jasnah-HR alien team?

Bona was the deciding vote to save celaph after pushing...

[celaph]

Of the existing wagons, ##vote Jasnah is the best. I'm obviously a terrible wagon as the only one who has outed maf and Ezio is scanned not mafia.

[BunnyGo]

@celaph You're defending me even though there are zero votes on me and as far as VCA shows there was never any serious attempt to wagon me (literally nobody has ever voted me)? And despite my wanting to kill you for much of yesterday and today? Seems a little excessive and obviously I'm not going to turn down people townreading me because it really is a great boost for town's chances of winning when I gain credibility, but it's a little funny that celaph says like nothing most of the time while about to die and the next time I see him it's to defend him when I'm at near zero risk of dying

She has since shifted celaph->ghug->emc -> ezio.

Now continuing to distance from celaph even though he was "defending" her.

[BunnyGo]

Of the existing wagons, ##vote Jasnah is the best. I'm obviously a terrible wagon as the only one who has outed maf and Ezio is scanned not mafia.

Why is jasnah the best?

[BunnyGo]

This is 10% townie thinking and 90% scummy bluster.

Thanks call me when I next care about your opinion

I could get you killed several times over before you'd ever launch a successful wagon on me asshole

Maybe just tough on everyone...

[rdrivera2005]

Of the existing wagons, ##vote Jasnah is the best. I'm obviously a terrible wagon as the only one who has outed maf and Ezio is scanned not mafia.

Care to explain why? Jasnah isn't Mafia considering Vecna is not lying. Assuming you are not bussing him, he must be town to you, so why he is the best wagon?
Remember you don't have a warm pocket anymore and the mob wants green blood...

[rdrivera2005]

Of the existing wagons, ##vote Jasnah is the best. I'm obviously a terrible wagon as the only one who has outed maf and Ezio is scanned not mafia.

Care to explain why? Jasnah isn't Mafia considering Vecna is not lying. Assuming you are not bussing her, she must be town to you, so why she is the best wagon?
Remember you don't have a warm pocket anymore and the mob wants green blood...

Redacted. Sorry.

[BunnyGo]

Stop getting distracted idiots. Can't believe I'm having to spam at T-9 to people too busy following a cat fight in the corner. Votes on Ezio

Not bussing celaph this time.