MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[Bonatogether]

They literally just said?

No, they said why they killed bozo. Strongmanning says "I think this person is gonna be docsaved but I wanna kill them"

Bozo was a reasonable target for the doc given that he discarded a strong mafia role. Many people were speculating strong PR of some kind.

I guess? but strongmanning is a 1 time thing, and I think it'd be better to hold it, no?

[brainbomb]

just in case it wasnt obvious I am not vanilla

[Bonatogether]

And yeah, I strongmanned Bozo.

He's caused me countless pain before, and I wanted him out of the way.

Plus, with a one woman team, I didn't expect to last long.

Why would you strongman bozo?

I know how I am with 1-shot abilities, in any game. If I hesitated, it wasn't going to be used ever. As I've said before, Bozo and his massclaims have got me in deep water, and I didn't want to have to go through it again. I could see he was managing the discard list, and I didn't want to lie when it came to me. Seeing as I never got asked to do it, it seems my plan worked.

But wouldn't it better to hold it until there's a dangerous outed town PR (like damo) to shoot?

[TheMadMonarch]

can we keep macca alive and just have them shoot ghug and anyone else anti town

I will do this in exchange for life. Even if I can't win, I'd love to at least come second.

[Bonatogether]

can we keep macca alive and just have him shoot ghug and anyone else anti town

Why don't we never kill anyone and all live in harmony?

[ghug]

I dislike that you're trying to force this.

Especially during a day when the kill is already decided, and double especially when damo is already outed.

What's the value?

Vanilla are not scum.

PRs are only useful for protection/hunting.

So? Do aliens shoot into the PRs, or into the confirmable town?

Oh...and aliens only have a max of 2 kills.

And mafia are possibly done...

Goons and SKs are vanilla, no? I'm not ready to assume mafia are done.

Damo's also very likely to be one of those allen kills, and at that point the aliens will know who to target with whatever nonkilling abilities they have. Your plan probably makes sense if we're pretty close to winning already, but that's not the contingency we should be optimizing for, and the assertiveness with which you push it is annoying.

[ghug]

can we keep macca alive and just have him shoot ghug and anyone else anti town

No u

[TheMadMonarch]

Why would you strongman bozo?

I know how I am with 1-shot abilities, in any game. If I hesitated, it wasn't going to be used ever. As I've said before, Bozo and his massclaims have got me in deep water, and I didn't want to have to go through it again. I could see he was managing the discard list, and I didn't want to lie when it came to me. Seeing as I never got asked to do it, it seems my plan worked.

But wouldn't it better to hold it until there's a dangerous outed town PR (like damo) to shoot?

How do I decide what's dangerous enough to let it off? I'm really bad at these decision, and I know it.

[kgray]

What's suspicious about this?

Nothing is suspicious, I was protecting my pocketer/pocketee.

Wait, I thought *I* was your pocketer/pocketee...

Life is like a pair of cargo shorts. There are many pockets.

[BunnyGo]

Especially during a day when the kill is already decided, and double especially when damo is already outed.

What's the value?

Vanilla are not scum.

PRs are only useful for protection/hunting.

So? Do aliens shoot into the PRs, or into the confirmable town?

Oh...and aliens only have a max of 2 kills.

And mafia are possibly done...

Goons and SKs are vanilla, no? I'm not ready to assume mafia are done.

Damo's also very likely to be one of those allen kills, and at that point the aliens will know who to target with whatever nonkilling abilities they have. Your plan probably makes sense if we're pretty close to winning already, but that's not the contingency we should be optimizing for, and the assertiveness with which you push it is annoying.

You think an SK is here?

What other use does Damo's ability have? Damo the player has a use, but his only use as PR is to get us a massive amount of non-alien claims.

The doctors can clearly protect him forever. And aliens only have 1 nk they won't waste on him.

In addition, getting this claims gives our *hidden* conspiracy theorists a better place to search.

So tell me more clearly: what are you worried about here? Because I see very little downside. Most of us are probably not-vanilla anyways.

Lord knows emc isn't (zing!)

[BobMcBob]

can we keep macca alive and just have him shoot ghug and anyone else anti town

Oooh, this sounds like a fun plan...

[BunnyGo]

@Macca: who have you been trying to kill lately?

[kgray]

I dislike that you're trying to force this.

I dislike that you don't appreciate the aliens are the threat. And we need our conspiracy theorists and damo to scan fast and often.

Are they though? They can only kill one of us.

[celaph]

can we keep macca alive and just have him shoot ghug and anyone else anti town

If ghug is sk can we let Macca and myself live and have town ff?

[Bonatogether]

I know how I am with 1-shot abilities, in any game. If I hesitated, it wasn't going to be used ever. As I've said before, Bozo and his massclaims have got me in deep water, and I didn't want to have to go through it again. I could see he was managing the discard list, and I didn't want to lie when it came to me. Seeing as I never got asked to do it, it seems my plan worked.

But wouldn't it better to hold it until there's a dangerous outed town PR (like damo) to shoot?

How do I decide what's dangerous enough to let it off? I'm really bad at these decision, and I know it.

:/

[TheMadMonarch]

@Macca: who have you been trying to kill lately?

No-one else seems to want this info, yet you've asked 3 times. Why?

[ghug]

can we keep macca alive and just have him shoot ghug and anyone else anti town

No u

Look brain, I'm probably being rudely dismissive, and I'm sorry for that, but I really thought we had a new, better brain a couple games ago, and now we're back to you blowing games as scum and sucking all the air out of the thread with irrational and sometimes impossible theories as (presumed) town, and it's frustrating

[celaph]

@Macca: who have you been trying to kill lately?

No-one else seems to want this info, yet you've asked 3 times. Why?

I mean, I want it, but I'm too busy laughing uncontrollably rn to really care.

[TheMadMonarch]

gtg now. be back in about 7 hours.

[BobMcBob]

@Macca: who have you been trying to kill lately?

No-one else seems to want this info, yet you've asked 3 times. Why?

I want it. Please reveal. We don't know who it was yet and it's confusing.