MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[kgray]

I'm as sure as I can be within the game that Celaph is alien (or possibly scum) being saved by HR is huge, but claiming VT and then retracting when caught in a lie and then not knowing how his supposed role worked. C'mon he has to be flipped.

But why so early? My guess is that if he is any alien he knows more about the mafia team than we do. They are our shared enemy and if his team have scans he might share when he knows he will die soon anyway. I'm suspicious of anyone who wants to rush this, especially ghug.

Why are you especially suspicious of ghug?

[brainbomb]

How do you explain him knowing he was parroted and the psycho was in play?

rivera also claimed parroted. and I know rivera is town

damo claimed parroted before Rivera did

yes

[Jamiet99uk]

Dana Scully sat watching the TV. She was tired.

The TV was showing an in-depth news report into a disease outbreak. The reports had been mentioned on the news for several days, weeks perhaps, but it had only started to dominate the headlines when it moved beyond China. Now cases were being reported in Italy, Iran, South Korea, and Japan.

She felt enormous. She'd like to be out of hospital soon. To hold her baby, with Fox. She sighed deeply. They'd informed her of Mulder's injury. But it felt like they were keeping something from her. She wanted to see him.

She looked back at the TV. Apparently several people in California had now been hospitalised by the virus. Restrictions had been placed on travel to the USA from China.

China...

Wait a moment.

VOTE COUNT 4.6

celaph (10) - Ezio, damo666*, Bonatogether*, DemonRHK, rdrivera2005, BunnyGo*, Maniac, BobMcBob, Vecna*, Hamilton Brian
BunnyGo (3) - Donny Dude, jasnah, ghug
Vecna (1) - kgray
Donny Dude (1) - brainbomb

Currently CELAPH is at the top of the above list.

There are four END votes.

The time that remains in Day Four is equal to 24 hours and 15 minutes.

[kgray]

rivera also claimed parroted. and I know rivera is town

damo claimed parroted before Rivera did

yes

Right, and Bunny's point, which I also made, was that damo couldn't have been lying about his role/actions because of the parrot. He's town.

[BunnyGo]

a bunny wagon appears to form easily
almost like a rabbit
from a hat

Fascinating how the people I scum read follow you there.

[BunnyGo]

id say its a 50/50 damo made it all up or was saved by a maf doc to set up an eventual late fake clear. Its a possibility theres maf its also possible damo is a bp who made it up

How do you explain him knowing he was parroted and the psycho was in play?

rivera also claimed parroted. and I know rivera is town

It’s not a 1-shot...

[brainbomb]

a bunny wagon appears to form easily
almost like a rabbit
from a hat

Fascinating how the people I scum read follow you there.

its almost like you could vote donny with me

[Bonatogether]

a bunny wagon appears to form easily
almost like a rabbit
from a hat

Fascinating how the people I scum read follow you there.

its almost like you could vote donny with me

Maybe we could just hammer celaph

[BunnyGo]

a bunny wagon appears to form easily
almost like a rabbit
from a hat

Fascinating how the people I scum read follow you there.

its almost like you could vote donny with me

I’m never ending today on anyone but celaph. So what’s the point? I’ve made my opinions clear. What’s really needed is research.

I’m just getting off work, but started putting together a summary of jasnah. It is both more substantive than I recalled (suggesting actual hunting) while parroting others word for word a lot (suggesting buddying and lack of hunting). I’ll need to do it justice on a computer later (I expect brain will take a look himself. The phrase YOU TIE YOU FRY made me double check I hadn’t searched for Demon)

[e.m.c^42]

I'm just waiting for Vecna to say some stuff at this point.

[brainbomb]

fine
##vote celaph
##end

[Bonatogether]

fine
##vote celaph
##end

=D

[brainbomb]

macca is here
hey macca whats your role

[BobMcBob]

can everyone state who they plan to go after next once celaph is dead?

At this point I'm considering Maniac/Vecna, preference on Maniac. Haven't given it huge consideration though.

[BobMcBob]

macca is here
hey macca whats your role

Brain... what do you expect at this point?

[ghug]

I hardclaim priest. Brainbomb visited me in the confessional booth and told me that he killed a man, but he couldn't afford his indulgence so now I'm telling all of you.

[BobMcBob]

Then who did aliens probe N2?

Macca as he claimed or held if Macca is alien.

If Macca is an alien, why didn't they just pick somebody else and actually probe that person? Why pretend it was Macca?

On the off chance that people believed HR was jailer because of it I would assume. Otherwise it would be even less believable. I think it's unlikely though.

[BobMcBob]

Regarding mass claim I would support a vanilla/non vanilla mass claim.

I hard claim non vanilla lol.

I think if we're doing this, we should just mass claim entirely.

No, there are more downsides to a massclaim than a vanilla massclaim.

[ghug]

Macca as he claimed or held if Macca is alien.

If Macca is an alien, why didn't they just pick somebody else and actually probe that person? Why pretend it was Macca?

On the off chance that people believed HR was jailer because of it I would assume. Otherwise it would be even less believable. I think it's unlikely though.

I don't follow this. Why would people be less likely to believe HR was jailer if Macca claimed a roleblock vs. if someone else did?

Also does anyone really believe Macca would be the person they'd choose to do the acting?

[BobMcBob]

Okay, here is my theory for the most likely set of night actions up to this point.

N1:
Mafia NK bozo
Aliens do not kill
Prober RB's ghug
Doctors save various targets
Damo (vanilla cop) scans celaph iirc

N2:
Mafia NK damo
Aliens do not kill
Prober RB's Macca
Doctor saves damo
Other doctor saves incorrectly
Parrot parrots damo
Damo scans maniac??? I seem to remember seeing that but can't be bothered searching with no bot. Maybe that was N3 I can't remember

N3:
Mafia NK someone
Doctor saves NK target (I don't recall seeing someone claim saved)
Other doctor saves damo
Rdrivera does something, it is not a kill, it is an action that returns two results to rdr I believe
Parrot parrots rdr
Damo scans someone (I believe this is unknown)
Aliens do not kill
Prober holds RB or uses it on someone who has for some reason decided not to claim/has forgotten/has not had the opportunity

I am not sure whether or not the second doctor exists, I seem to recall someone saying it was likely but I can't remember where. It is not a necessary part of this theory. SK likely does not exist but may be holstering. At this point I'm thinking something like a 75% chance SK is not in play. Damo is town. Macca is not alien under this theory. Rdr is likely town if my memory hasn't failed me. Last night's RB was likely a somewhat inactive player if there was one. It is entirely possible that last night's roleblock was performed on the mafia killer.

Alternate N3:
Mafia NK someone
Prober RB's the mafia carrying out the kill
Doc saves are irrelevant
Everything else remains the same

This would explain why there is no docsave or RB claim yet (from memory)

If I've missed or misremembered something or you disagree with an assumption or my logic, feel free to point it out, this is meant to be a theory of the most likely events.

Why did you assume my theory of two doctors as fact and then ignore the part of it that actually necessitates there being two doctors?

I couldn't recall if there were two doctors or not, I seemed to recall someone saying that there either were two or it was likely. That's the only reason I included a second one. Under this model however, it is not necessary for there to be two doctors for it to function. If there is one, they save someone then damo, then someone, and the theory is still consistent.