MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[BunnyGo]

I make my own bread.

Interesting.

Would I do well to start with regular bread or a sourdough starter. I want to graduate to breads, I'm just working with desserts so far in my lockdown quest to be able to bake.

Flatbreads are easy, fast, "rustic", and satisfying. Paul Hollywood has great technique and doesn't make it "mystical". It's bread.

If you have a scale, weights are much easier. If you don't use google to convert.
500 g bread flour
11 g salt
13 g yeast
320-330 g water
olives
cilantro
onion
cumin
(pack the filling)

This is my go to "oh shit, what's for dinner in 2 hours while also needing to clean?"

His recipe on Bake Off for ciabatta just is easy (if you have netflix, its there under the masterclass episodes).

I agree with ghug though. I've only once made a bread that was inedible. Otherwise, it's never perfect, I find making it beautiful difficult to do, but I get to slowly tweak and make it my own. And ghug's response reminded me I had crackers in the oven and no timer. Thanks ghug!

[BunnyGo]

##vote celaph

[kgray]

Oh, the bot didn't count my ##vote ghug

[Donny Dude]

The poor bot keeps getting stuck in a time loop.

[ghug]

Oh, the bot didn't count my ##vote ghug

Rude

[kgray]

Oh, the bot didn't count my ##vote ghug

Rude

Just needed it for posterity. ##vote vecna

[ghug]

Oh, the bot didn't count my ##vote ghug

Rude

Just needed it for posterity. ##vote vecna

Why not? ##VOTE Vecna

TIMEO NEDERLANDIOS ET DONA FERENTES

[BunnyGo]

Was anyone attacked last night?

[ghug]

FRISIOS?

[e.m.c^42]

explain kgray being an alien to me in a weird way

@emc

Bozo's dead.

[kgray]

explain kgray being an alien to me in a weird way

@emc

Bozo's dead.

The first thing I thought when I saw that was "someone is trying to frame me" lol

[ghug]

explain kgray being an alien to me in a weird way

@emc

Bozo's dead.

Wouldn't they make her mafia?

[Bonatogether]

@emc

Bozo's dead.

The first thing I thought when I saw that was "someone is trying to frame me" lol

I don't see this

[brainbomb]

rereading bozo N1

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g= ... zotheclown

key moments
•bozo thinks celaph is likely town for bot trying to out PR
•thinks alien team is 5 or 6
•

It is possible celaph is SK or scum with no teammates or only 1 teammate, where there would be no value in forcing a CC.

Bozo D1
•mostly scumreads rivera which continues N1


Pre D2 reads
•Hamilton: Null: Bozo, Celaph, Demon, ghug, macca, maniac, rdr, vecna, bona

•ghug: Townreads on Bob, brain, bona. kgray seems good, but I think she's gonna be capable of fooling me in a setup like this.
(only b not mentioned is bozo)

•HR: bozotheclown - Very low presence. Did essentially nothing, including no weirdness, D1... And N1 he seems to have gone back & forth over whether celaph claiming VT is townie or not. Somewhat less slight scum.

•Bona: Bozo voted rdr at T-9:20, and then Demon, brain, and kgray voted for him at T-1:30. I voted for rd right afterwards for "competitive wagons", but then switched to celaph. Jasnah voted rd since she prefered the wagon over the lfischl wagon. lfischl voted for survival, again. Probably town-driven with a scum or two hopping on to blend in - kgray, or, more likely, jasnah are the two I'd guess.



Reactions to bozo death:
•Donny: rip bozo

•damo666: So no Mafia GF in the game

•ghug: Could be worse. RIP bozo
I was roleblocked.

•Bonatogether: So probably no sk?

•Maniac: Rip bozo.

•brainbomb: I was expecting three deaths, and losses galore of good players, mass chaos and decimation.

•Bonatogether:↑DemonRHK: "rip bozo. Only 1 death kinda shocks me."
Mafia will always try to kill
sk (if they're around) will always try to kill
Aliens have 1 factional kill
Vig (if they're around) has 1 shot

It seems logical that there's not an sk, then, and aliens and vig didn't have any good enough ideas of who to kill.

•Donny Dude:↑Bonatogether: "So probably no sk?"
Yeah, probably.

•e.m.c^42: I will miss list updates. Farewell, bozo and self-updating tracker.


•Hellenic Riot: That's a wild kill.


Notes and thoughts:
Why was bozo killed? It would appear that the aliens performed this kill based on HRs disdain for his own team hunting the sk. Aliens wanted to catch sk N1.

So why was there one kill? bozo thought aliens had 5 or 6 members. in the 5 scenario there was an sk or solo maf. I believe the Aliens hoped to catch sk n1 for some reason.

Bozo was not killed by rivera and was mostly just sharply on point about the alien team size.

Bozo was definetely killed by someone other than HR who feared bozo being too organized. It is possible damo was shot by vig or was doc saved by a scum doc or hes a BP or a myriad of things but suffice it to say the odds look heavily stacked that n1 kill was aliens hail mary

[brainbomb]

After reacting to bozos death calling it wild, HR distances his team from involvement and aims to explain that only one nk means the sk is holstering. HR is scared of the notion that there was one kill because it means a very long game for aliens to trudge.

Hellenic Riot
Day-2 47:35
page 129 / orig
↑Bonatogether: "Mafia will always try to kill
sk (if they're around) will always try to kill
Aliens have 1 factional kill
Vig (if they'..."

If I were an SK, I wouldn't be killing at this stage - I'd rather lull people into thinking there isn't an SK. I'd be less likely to hold my shot as Vig because you don't want to die without having used it. There's also the possibility that there was more than one kill last night but there was a save, or (lol) multiple factions shot bozo. Concluding there's no SK based just off this one night is a dicey proposition

HR also is scared that if people think there isnt an sk the town will not have to do variable hunting. Once you add more chaotic elements scummy becomes gray. Not kgray, the color gray.

HR has to now clarify where the kill came from:

Hellenic Riot
Day-2 47:33
page 129 / orig
↑Donny Dude: "Why do you find it wild hr?"

Someone who essentially nobody was townreading and wasn't the person screaming about being a strong PR is a strange choice for a (mafia)

It is difficult here to say with certainty that mafia killed bozo but it looks like HR wants to make that argument.

Donny and Bona seem very engaged in this topic from EON 1 to now:

Donny Dude
Day-2 47:31
page 129 / orig
↑Hellenic Riot: "Someone who essentially nobody was townreading and wasn't the person screaming about being a strong PR is a strange choi..."

That is a good point

Bonatogether
Day-2 47:31
page 129 / orig
↑brainbomb: "there is a guaranteed mafia team in this with a factional kill right?"

Not guaranteed, but I'd be surprised if there wasn't

It would appear donny and bona were aliens with HR, who were flabbergasted there wasnt any additional death

[brainbomb]

##vote donny

[ghug]

rereading bozo N1

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g= ... zotheclown

key moments
•bozo thinks celaph is likely town for bot trying to out PR
•thinks alien team is 5 or 6
•

It is possible celaph is SK or scum with no teammates or only 1 teammate, where there would be no value in forcing a CC.

Bozo D1
•mostly scumreads rivera which continues N1


Pre D2 reads
•Hamilton: Null: Bozo, Celaph, Demon, ghug, macca, maniac, rdr, vecna, bona

•ghug: Townreads on Bob, brain, bona. kgray seems good, but I think she's gonna be capable of fooling me in a setup like this.
(only b not mentioned is bozo)

•HR: bozotheclown - Very low presence. Did essentially nothing, including no weirdness, D1... And N1 he seems to have gone back & forth over whether celaph claiming VT is townie or not. Somewhat less slight scum.

•Bona: Bozo voted rdr at T-9:20, and then Demon, brain, and kgray voted for him at T-1:30. I voted for rd right afterwards for "competitive wagons", but then switched to celaph. Jasnah voted rd since she prefered the wagon over the lfischl wagon. lfischl voted for survival, again. Probably town-driven with a scum or two hopping on to blend in - kgray, or, more likely, jasnah are the two I'd guess.



Reactions to bozo death:
•Donny: rip bozo

•damo666: So no Mafia GF in the game

•ghug: Could be worse. RIP bozo
I was roleblocked.

•Bonatogether: So probably no sk?

•Maniac: Rip bozo.

•brainbomb: I was expecting three deaths, and losses galore of good players, mass chaos and decimation.

•Bonatogether:↑DemonRHK: "rip bozo. Only 1 death kinda shocks me."
Mafia will always try to kill
sk (if they're around) will always try to kill
Aliens have 1 factional kill
Vig (if they're around) has 1 shot

It seems logical that there's not an sk, then, and aliens and vig didn't have any good enough ideas of who to kill.

•Donny Dude:↑Bonatogether: "So probably no sk?"
Yeah, probably.

•e.m.c^42: I will miss list updates. Farewell, bozo and self-updating tracker.


•Hellenic Riot: That's a wild kill.


Notes and thoughts:
Why was bozo killed? It would appear that the aliens performed this kill based on HRs disdain for his own team hunting the sk. Aliens wanted to catch sk N1.

So why was there one kill? bozo thought aliens had 5 or 6 members. in the 5 scenario there was an sk or solo maf. I believe the Aliens hoped to catch sk n1 for some reason.

Bozo was not killed by rivera and was mostly just sharply on point about the alien team size.

Bozo was definetely killed by someone other than HR who feared bozo being too organized. It is possible damo was shot by vig or was doc saved by a scum doc or hes a BP or a myriad of things but suffice it to say the odds look heavily stacked that n1 kill was aliens hail mary

The aliens performed the kill because the one flipped alien was against killing bozo, and there wasn't another kill but you have no explanation as to why?

[Bonatogether]

Bonatogether
Day-2 47:31
page 129 / orig
↑brainbomb: "there is a guaranteed mafia team in this with a factional kill right?"

Not guaranteed, but I'd be surprised if there wasn't

It would appear donny and bona were aliens with HR, who were flabbergasted there wasnt any additional death
[/quote]
Me expressing surprise at the idea of no one choosing a mafia role is not AI. I don't see any basis for putting me as an alien for this.

[Bonatogether]

Also I've been poking through old mafia games and I discovered Vecna's long form story on d1 in m21 about everyone, and it's pretty funny

[brainbomb]

bozotheclown - Very low presence. Did essentially nothing, including no weirdness, D1... And N1 he seems to have gone back & forth over whether celaph claiming VT is townie or not. Somewhat less slight scum.

this is an HR read that comes right out of knowing thats the kill