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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6481 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:18 am

kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:17 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:14 am
kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:13 am


Yes, that's one argument for doing it. Please don't be offended if it doesn't instantly convince me :-)
:raging:

It also forces multiple scum to basically out or to tie their alignment as the opposite of someone elses.
Yes, another benefit. There are also downsides.

But you are trying to convince the wrong person. I'm never going to have a strong opinion on this.
Anyone else can read this, no?

and why won't you have an opinion on it?

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#6482 Post by Donny Dude » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:18 am

kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:17 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:14 am
kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:13 am


Yes, that's one argument for doing it. Please don't be offended if it doesn't instantly convince me :-)
:raging:

It also forces multiple scum to basically out or to tie their alignment as the opposite of someone elses.
Yes, another benefit. There are also downsides.

But you are trying to convince the wrong person. I'm never going to have a strong opinion on this.
You seem against it though?

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#6483 Post by kgray » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:19 am

Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:18 am
kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:17 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:14 am

:raging:

It also forces multiple scum to basically out or to tie their alignment as the opposite of someone elses.
Yes, another benefit. There are also downsides.

But you are trying to convince the wrong person. I'm never going to have a strong opinion on this.
Anyone else can read this, no?

and why won't you have an opinion on it?
Because I don't have strong opinion about mechanically optimal plays...? It's not interesting to me and I don't want to think about it.

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#6484 Post by brainbomb » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:19 am

Donny Dude wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:18 am
kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:17 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:14 am

:raging:

It also forces multiple scum to basically out or to tie their alignment as the opposite of someone elses.
Yes, another benefit. There are also downsides.

But you are trying to convince the wrong person. I'm never going to have a strong opinion on this.
You seem against it though?
shes not, were going in a specific order

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#6485 Post by Hamilton Brian » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:19 am

Ezio wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:00 am

I'm a caveman. HR saved celaph. HR was alien. Seems likely celaph is alien.
Given all the speculation around roles the VCA does think for itself. (I don't even know what that means, but I'm tired and half conscious)... And if Celaph is town (have to go reread Damo's work regarding them) then there should be some subsequent info to come from that VCA.

I think?

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#6486 Post by kgray » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:20 am

Donny Dude wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:18 am
kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:17 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:14 am

:raging:

It also forces multiple scum to basically out or to tie their alignment as the opposite of someone elses.
Yes, another benefit. There are also downsides.

But you are trying to convince the wrong person. I'm never going to have a strong opinion on this.
You seem against it though?
For the same reason I didn't claim my discard. Once you claim (unless you're brainbomb) you can't take it back. So I will wait until there's a consensus.


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#6488 Post by Donny Dude » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:21 am

kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:20 am
Donny Dude wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:18 am
kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:17 am


Yes, another benefit. There are also downsides.

But you are trying to convince the wrong person. I'm never going to have a strong opinion on this.
You seem against it though?
For the same reason I didn't claim my discard. Once you claim (unless you're brainbomb) you can't take it back. So I will wait until there's a consensus.
K, I can see why.

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#6489 Post by brainbomb » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:21 am

kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:20 am
Donny Dude wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:18 am
kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:17 am


Yes, another benefit. There are also downsides.

But you are trying to convince the wrong person. I'm never going to have a strong opinion on this.
You seem against it though?
For the same reason I didn't claim my discard. Once you claim (unless you're brainbomb) you can't take it back. So I will wait until there's a consensus.
you hurt me
real deep there kaybay

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#6490 Post by kgray » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:21 am

brainbomb wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:21 am
kgray wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:20 am
Donny Dude wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:18 am

You seem against it though?
For the same reason I didn't claim my discard. Once you claim (unless you're brainbomb) you can't take it back. So I will wait until there's a consensus.
you hurt me
real deep there kaybay
It's a compliment :-D

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#6491 Post by ghug » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:23 am

brainbomb wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:09 am
Vanilla Townie - Bozo
Vanilla Townie - Bona
Vanilla Townie - damo
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
We can expect 3-4 to have never been dealt. About an 8% chance more than 8 were dealt. 20% chance fewer than six were.

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#6492 Post by brainbomb » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:24 am

ghug wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:23 am
brainbomb wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:09 am
Vanilla Townie - Bozo
Vanilla Townie - Bona
Vanilla Townie - damo
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
We can expect 3-4 to have never been dealt. About an 8% chance more than 8 were dealt. 20% chance fewer than six were.
then maf will claim an abnormal amount as they get pressed and then we have our pool to kill from

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#6493 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:27 am

brainbomb wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:24 am
ghug wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:23 am
brainbomb wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:09 am
Vanilla Townie - Bozo
Vanilla Townie - Bona
Vanilla Townie - damo
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
We can expect 3-4 to have never been dealt. About an 8% chance more than 8 were dealt. 20% chance fewer than six were.
then maf will claim an abnormal amount as they get pressed and then we have our pool to kill from
We need bozo


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#6495 Post by ghug » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:28 am

brainbomb wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:24 am
ghug wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:23 am
brainbomb wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:09 am
Vanilla Townie - Bozo
Vanilla Townie - Bona
Vanilla Townie - damo
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
We can expect 3-4 to have never been dealt. About an 8% chance more than 8 were dealt. 20% chance fewer than six were.
then maf will claim an abnormal amount as they get pressed and then we have our pool to kill from
Unless they discarded harmless town roles.

The biggest obvious downsides here is the lovers.

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#6496 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:28 am

brainbomb wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:28 am
then whyd you kill him n1
I didn't kill bozo

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#6497 Post by ghug » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:29 am

Can someone less lazy than me go through the town PRs and determine how many of them can confirm themselves?

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#6498 Post by brainbomb » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:30 am

ghug wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:29 am
Can someone less lazy than me go through the town PRs and determine how many of them can confirm themselves?
inno child, louds, masons, vig, invests, parrot

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#6499 Post by rdrivera2005 » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:32 am

brainbomb wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:24 am
ghug wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:23 am
brainbomb wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:09 am
Vanilla Townie - Bozo
Vanilla Townie - Bona
Vanilla Townie - damo
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
We can expect 3-4 to have never been dealt. About an 8% chance more than 8 were dealt. 20% chance fewer than six were.
then maf will claim an abnormal amount as they get pressed and then we have our pool to kill from
Too early for a massclaim. With Damo alive we can have some more scans before claiming and maybe we have other investigatives that can give some info. We don't know which abilities Aliens might have.

Anyway, Celaph should claim now, otherwise he will be the daykill. Claiming later will be even more scummy.

##vote Celaph

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#6500 Post by brainbomb » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:32 am

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:32 am
brainbomb wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:24 am
ghug wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:23 am


We can expect 3-4 to have never been dealt. About an 8% chance more than 8 were dealt. 20% chance fewer than six were.
then maf will claim an abnormal amount as they get pressed and then we have our pool to kill from
Too early for a massclaim. With Damo alive we can have some more scans before claiming and maybe we have other investigatives that can give some info. We don't know which abilities Aliens might have.

Anyway, Celaph should claim now, otherwise he will be the daykill. Claiming later will be even more scummy.

##vote Celaph
yea why didnt damo out a result tho

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