MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[Hamilton Brian]

I feel like I'm on a time-out.

[Bonatogether]

I feel like I'm on a time-out.

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[damo666]

I will probably be tonight's NK.

However, I won't be providing a read list as I have no strong reads other than the obvious as already stated.

My only advice would be pay more attention to those are logical with mechanics rather than head in the clouds whimsy. I'll leave you to work out who's who.

Unfortunately I am not likely to be on at EON.

I have 1 reveal left, though it's not dramatic. As I said before the player in question is not VT goon or SK. They are alien, Maf PR or Town PR. I have no particular clue which.

Can anybody give me a strong reason to delay the reveal. I don't see why I just don't go ahead now.

How close to EoN will you be on?

Not sure. Definitely EON-4 possibly much later but I'm afraid I might miss it. I don't see a major disadvantage in revealing now. I mean it's not much of a reveal. It's not like it's a Vanilla which => probtown.

[e.m.c^42]

Poor bot.

[ghug]

I will probably be tonight's NK.

However, I won't be providing a read list as I have no strong reads other than the obvious as already stated.

My only advice would be pay more attention to those are logical with mechanics rather than head in the clouds whimsy. I'll leave you to work out who's who.

Unfortunately I am not likely to be on at EON.

I have 1 reveal left, though it's not dramatic. As I said before the player in question is not VT goon or SK. They are alien, Maf PR or Town PR. I have no particular clue which.

Can anybody give me a strong reason to delay the reveal. I don't see why I just don't go ahead now.

How close to EoN will you be on?

Not sure. Definitely EON-4 possibly much later but I'm afraid I might miss it. I don't see a major disadvantage in revealing now. I mean it's not much of a reveal. It's not like it's a Vanilla which => probtown.

Yeah, I guess the question is whether we want the answer at all at that point. I think the answer is probably yes, but at that point wouldn't we just want everyone to claim vanilla/non-vanilla?

[rdrivera2005]

I see a reason for Mafia to target Damo, he is a townclear that can expose anyone that claims VT (and this game will probably get to a massclaim sooner or later). I don't get why they tried the NK last night, when he is an obvious Doc target. This makes me think Strongman not in play and a Mafia team not that experienced.

I don't see much of a reason for Alien to target Bunny with his only chance to NK, specially considering he was an obvious doc target. I can't see HR agreeing to use their only NK on Damo on N2.

rdr gets me...maybe it's the fact we both live near the beach.

Even when he comes to a different conclusion...it's a sane process.

Sane is NAI, but I will take it as a compliment. I had some moments of about you Bunny, but most of the time I townread you, you will be able to see it after the game.

And beach ⛱ is great. Even not so great ones like here.

[rdrivera2005]

Revised reads, part 4

Reasoning is basically my stuff from part 1 mushed together with bunny's thoughts. I can give a more exact reasoning for anyone if you ask

One "less than" symbol is saying "a bit less than", two is "a fair bit less than", and three is "something's really fucked up if they're this role."

bob - town > sk > mafia >>> alien
brain - town >>> mafia = sk >>> alien
bungo - mafia > alien >> town >>> sk
celaph - alien > mafia >>> town > sk
damo - town = mafia >> alien >>> sk
donny - town = mafia > alien >>> sk
emc - town > sk >>> mafia = alien
ezio - alien > mafia >> town >>> sk
ghug - alien = mafia > town >>> sk
hb - town >> alien >>> mafia = sk
kgray - town > sk >> mafia >>> alien
macca - alien > mafia >> town >>> sk
maniac - not sure
rdr - alien > mafia >> town >>> sk

Bona, care to explain why you think I am a likely Alien after pushing hard HR since N1?

Again, the point of the whole thing is to eliminate possible factions. I do think that alien is most likely for you (aliens can bus too), but I could see mafia as well, and town isn't impossible either. Sk is, though.

I will eat my shoes if a single alien bussed HR on D2. Anyway, why I can't be SK?

[ghug]

Bona, care to explain why you think I am a likely Alien after pushing hard HR since N1?

Again, the point of the whole thing is to eliminate possible factions. I do think that alien is most likely for you (aliens can bus too), but I could see mafia as well, and town isn't impossible either. Sk is, though.

I will eat my shoes if a single alien bussed HR on D2. Anyway, why I can't be SK?

Serial killers don't like beaches.

[rdrivera2005]

Again, the point of the whole thing is to eliminate possible factions. I do think that alien is most likely for you (aliens can bus too), but I could see mafia as well, and town isn't impossible either. Sk is, though.

I will eat my shoes if a single alien bussed HR on D2. Anyway, why I can't be SK?

Serial killers don't like beaches.

Lol, can't argue against this.

[Bonatogether]

Bona, care to explain why you think I am a likely Alien after pushing hard HR since N1?

Again, the point of the whole thing is to eliminate possible factions. I do think that alien is most likely for you (aliens can bus too), but I could see mafia as well, and town isn't impossible either. Sk is, though.

I will eat my shoes if a single alien bussed HR on D2. Anyway, why I can't be SK?

You aren't very solvey

[Hamilton Brian]

I feel like I'm on a time-out.

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I was the only one talking; no one was responding. Not even around me. So I felt like a child on timeout.

[Bonatogether]

I feel like I'm on a time-out.

?

I was the only one talking; no one was responding. Not even around me. So I felt like a child on timeout.

ah

[rdrivera2005]

Again, the point of the whole thing is to eliminate possible factions. I do think that alien is most likely for you (aliens can bus too), but I could see mafia as well, and town isn't impossible either. Sk is, though.

I will eat my shoes if a single alien bussed HR on D2. Anyway, why I can't be SK?

You aren't very solvey

Yeah, I don't write big walls of text telling that people can be alien, Mafia or even town.

[Bonatogether]

I will eat my shoes if a single alien bussed HR on D2. Anyway, why I can't be SK?

You aren't very solvey

Yeah, I don't write big walls of text telling that people can be alien, Mafia or even town.

You don't do small walls either for a lot of people

[ghug]

The composition of players in this game suggests that am SK is most likely to be American. Thus, rd is unlikely to be SK.

[Bonatogether]

The composition of players in this game suggests that am SK is most likely to be American. Thus, rd is unlikely to be SK.

Those are unrelated

[rdrivera2005]

You aren't very solvey

Yeah, I don't write big walls of text telling that people can be alien, Mafia or even town.

You don't do small walls either for a lot of people

True. Half of the players would get a null or I don't know or something like that, so I don't really pretend to a have a read on them.

I do give reads when I have, either town or scum (or alien). And I think you are more likely town, but a misguided one.

[Bonatogether]

Yeah, I don't write big walls of text telling that people can be alien, Mafia or even town.

You don't do small walls either for a lot of people

True. Half of the players would get a null or I don't know or something like that, so I don't really pretend to a have a read on them.

I do give reads when I have, either town or scum (or alien). And I think you are more likely town, but a misguided one.

Who do you have reads on?

[DemonRHK]

Imma go stream I think so I my not be around for EoN. So let's run it back

Conf Town
brain
kgray

town
rdr
Bob
bona
HB

Scum
HR
cel
Maniac
Vecna
Ezio

I expect to see morning but imagine many confs will not.

Reads 2: Electric Boogaloo

Conf Town
brain
kgray
damo

town
HB
rdr
Bob
bona

Scum
cel
Maniac
Vecna
Ezio

Some asides:

I'm getting sold the scumteams read like a hit parade of veteran players, as they are the only ones that would willing pick scum over town. Along with people who did not get a choice.

Lonely Island: rec. damo, HB, rdr

zazu: rec. macca or ezio if trying to be swingy

dougie houser: YTMND

damo: Just don't die. ez.

[rdrivera2005]

You don't do small walls either for a lot of people

True. Half of the players would get a null or I don't know or something like that, so I don't really pretend to a have a read on them.

I do give reads when I have, either town or scum (or alien). And I think you are more likely town, but a misguided one.

Who do you have reads on?

Town: Damo (obvious), HB, Kgray, Demon, Bunny, Brain, Bona, Bob.
It's a bit of a huge towncore but I will be really surprised if there is more then 1 scum in this list and most likely none.

Scum: Celaph, Maniac, Donny, Vecna.

The rest are in a middle zone: Ghug, Ezio, Jasnah, emc, Macca. With Ghug closer to town and Ezio closer to scum.

Sk can be anyone, my hope is that it isn't in play.