MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[damo666]

@damo: What do you think of the math(s)? Mafia team is 0-3 with mode on 1?

P(1) > P(2) > P(0) > P(3)?

Top of head the middle 2 might be reversed. Will take a look if and when I have time.

[Vecna]

so who should I study today

STUDY THE ELEGANT FORM OF YON MIGHTY CEASAR

THE DIVINE WISDOM ENCOMPASSES ALL. PAY HOMAGE, OR MAY THE GODS SHRIVEL THINE SCROTUM

[damo666]

D1 Damo666 said “Celaph is NOT an Alien.

D3 Damo666 said..

As I have been asked to hold on revealing I will withhold some info until EON.

However I will reveal this:

I KNOW WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY THAT ALIEN PSYCHOTROOPER IS IN PLAY

I have no info regarding HR

So we now know that according to Damo, Celaph must be an alien. OR Damo666 is lying and probably scum.

So our correct play now is kill Celaph. If he is Alien Damo666 is clear and obviously our next kill is then HR. D2 EOD is already terrible but if he has saved an alien that’s the final nail in the coffin for HR.

However, if Celaph flips town. Damo666 is lying scum and HR’s actions don’t look so bad.

If Celaph flips mafia we can kill Damo666 and HR.

##voteCelaph

This is incorrect since my D1 statement is incorrect. All I can categorically say about celaph's alignment is he is definitely not SK.

[rdrivera2005]

so who should I study today

STUDY THE ELEGANT FORM OF YON MIGHTY CEASAR

THE DIVINE WISDOM ENCOMPASSES ALL. PAY HOMAGE, OR MAY THE GODS SHRIVEL THINE SCROTUM

Last time you role played Ceasars you were scum...

[rdrivera2005]

D1 Damo666 said “Celaph is NOT an Alien.

D3 Damo666 said..

As I have been asked to hold on revealing I will withhold some info until EON.

However I will reveal this:

I KNOW WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY THAT ALIEN PSYCHOTROOPER IS IN PLAY

I have no info regarding HR

So we now know that according to Damo, Celaph must be an alien. OR Damo666 is lying and probably scum.

So our correct play now is kill Celaph. If he is Alien Damo666 is clear and obviously our next kill is then HR. D2 EOD is already terrible but if he has saved an alien that’s the final nail in the coffin for HR.

However, if Celaph flips town. Damo666 is lying scum and HR’s actions don’t look so bad.

If Celaph flips mafia we can kill Damo666 and HR.

##voteCelaph

This is incorrect since my D1 statement is incorrect. All I can categorically say about celaph's alignment is he is definitely not SK.

If I am understanding it right, Celaph is not vanilla. Haven't he claimed VT?

[damo666]

D1 Damo666 said “Celaph is NOT an Alien.

D3 Damo666 said..



So we now know that according to Damo, Celaph must be an alien. OR Damo666 is lying and probably scum.

So our correct play now is kill Celaph. If he is Alien Damo666 is clear and obviously our next kill is then HR. D2 EOD is already terrible but if he has saved an alien that’s the final nail in the coffin for HR.

However, if Celaph flips town. Damo666 is lying scum and HR’s actions don’t look so bad.

If Celaph flips mafia we can kill Damo666 and HR.

##voteCelaph

This is incorrect since my D1 statement is incorrect. All I can categorically say about celaph's alignment is he is definitely not SK.

If I am understanding it right, Celaph is not vanilla. Haven't he claimed VT?

Did he? Can you repost it please.

[damo666]

Alien One-shot Mass Redirector
You are the ALIEN ONE-SHOT MASS REDIRECTOR. Each day you must vote for a suspect. Once per game, you may choose a player at night. If your visit is successful, all night actions taken that night are redirected to your target. Your Alien team-mates are <NAME(S)> and you may communicate with them at NIGHT only in a QT, the link for which will be supplied when the game begins. You win when all non-Alien Factions are defeated, or nothing can stop this from happening.
(MANIPULATIVE)

so do we think this happened last night?

I doubt damo would have posted like that if it had been. He's on top of it I think.

+1

[damo666]

I think we can conclude either HR or Macca is lying.

Anyone think of a way they can both be telling the truth?

[TheMadMonarch]

Are we still hammering HR?

[Maniac]

@Damo666 - which bit of your D1 statement is incorrect? Why is it incorrect did you lie or make a mistake?

For now ##unvote Celaph

@Macca - you were roleblocked on a night no one died. Okay

##voteMacca

[TheMadMonarch]

@Damo666 - which bit of your D1 statement is incorrect? Why is it incorrect did you lie or make a mistake?

For now ##unvote Celaph

@Macca - you were roleblocked on a night no one died. Okay

##voteMacca

I promise you Maniac. Me being Role Blocked did not stop the mafia kill.

I never break a promise.

[rdrivera2005]

This is incorrect since my D1 statement is incorrect. All I can categorically say about celaph's alignment is he is definitely not SK.

If I am understanding it right, Celaph is not vanilla. Haven't he claimed VT?

Did he? Can you repost it please.

I think it's here: viewtopic.php?p=214326#p214326

[damo666]

@Damo666 - which bit of your D1 statement is incorrect? Why is it incorrect did you lie or make a mistake?

For now ##unvote Celaph

@Macca - you were roleblocked on a night no one died. Okay

##voteMacca

I made a mistake. I didn't account for psychotrooper.

Why you voting Macca? It is far more likely that being roleblocked and the lack of a kill are unrelated than the roleblock of a scum kill. Even if it were related it could RB of day vig. Your vote does not make sense.

[damo666]

@Damo666 - which bit of your D1 statement is incorrect? Why is it incorrect did you lie or make a mistake?

For now ##unvote Celaph

@Macca - you were roleblocked on a night no one died. Okay

##voteMacca

I promise you Maniac. Me being Role Blocked did not stop the mafia kill.

I never break a promise.

So it could have RBd a different type of kill? Lol.

Did Macca try to vig HR who RNd him????

[damo666]

celaph did seem a lot more townie when he was up for the daykill two games ago. seems more resigned here?

I have no point to argue. VTs can't clean themselves D1.

@rdr this is a VT claim?

[BobMcBob]

So I quickly read through Macca, for obvious reasons, and I've come to a conclusion:
##end
"Mechanically clear" my butt

[BobMcBob]

I think we can conclude either HR or Macca is lying.

Anyone think of a way they can both be telling the truth?

In what way would Macca be lying here? At least about the fact that he got RB'ed?

[damo666]

I'm reasonably convinced EMC is town and I think I might know his role.

Add me to the list of people strongly townreading HB.

[Maniac]

@Damo666 - which bit of your D1 statement is incorrect? Why is it incorrect did you lie or make a mistake?

For now ##unvote Celaph

@Macca - you were roleblocked on a night no one died. Okay

##voteMacca

I made a mistake. I didn't account for psychotrooper.

Why you voting Macca? It is far more likely that being roleblocked and the lack of a kill are unrelated than the roleblock of a scum kill. Even if it were related it could RB of day vig. Your vote does not make sense.

Yes, maybe I jumped the gun on macca - it just seemed sus that we have no kill on the day he claims RB.

Anyhoo back to your claims.

At the time you said Celaph is NOT alien that was based on an innocent scan presumably. Now you say you know there is a PsychTrooper in play (which I believe and know you could have verified this) then according to you Celaph MUST be Alien? No? If nothing why not?

If Celaph isn’t alien you must have lied about something. My comments about killing Celaph then either HR or you still stand.

##unvote

[damo666]

I think we can conclude either HR or Macca is lying.

Anyone think of a way they can both be telling the truth?

In what way would Macca be lying here? At least about the fact that he got RB'ed?

I think it far more likely HR is lying (or embarrassingly badly mistaken) but what I'm really interested in is could they both be telling the truth?

Suppose HR jailed Macca for instance. Why would HR think that Macca could clear him. Is there any way HR could genuinely think Macca could clear him?