MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[ghug]

celaph can you respond to my question please? The longer I see you online and not answering the more I'm doubting you, and I want to trust my read of your EOD.

hmmm maybe it's like celaph is scum

Nah

[brainbomb]

this is gonna sound mean but does anyone care what ghug thinks this game? I never see him making a post anyone agrees with. nobody seems to care what he says he just gets townread for being objectionable

[Donny Dude]

I'd love to hear why rdrivera is your example here given you scumread him D1 and he's done absolutely fuck all today. He came in and claimed he'd softed a PR D1 (at night, for no reason whatsoever), and then disappeared off the face of the earth. Why are you no longer scumreading him?

Because he said he's obvtown and he only ever says that when he's town. And I decided that he's playing how I expect him to as town, like you originally said, and I don't trust the people saying he was saved. And I'm his spokesperson, and we're vibing this game, and he's town.

##vote kgray
##END

I think this mans rdr is not on the same scum team as hr because Kgray was towntreading and this made hr snap. I don't think scum hr would be so angry at this post if rdr was on the team with him. I would not expect it to be contested so hard in that case.

[brainbomb]

ive not seen a single post where ghug said something and I nodded like yea hes got a point there

[kgray]

this is gonna sound mean but does anyone care what ghug thinks this game? I never see him making a post anyone agrees with. nobody seems to care what he says he just gets townread for being objectionable

Who's actively townreading ghug?

[kgray]

ive not seen a single post where ghug said something and I nodded like yea hes got a point there

I agree but this is the complete opposite about how I felt when I played with scum!ghug so I'm unsure.

[brainbomb]

this is gonna sound mean but does anyone care what ghug thinks this game? I never see him making a post anyone agrees with. nobody seems to care what he says he just gets townread for being objectionable

Who's actively townreading ghug?

I was? I could still see there being towny things. why?

[celaph]

I have this weird gut feeling that he's town and I hate it.

What makes you think that?

Hi Donny! Can you make some posts that are substantial, not parroting and not asking shallow questions? Thanks!

Why are you asking this of Donny? I feel like he's contributed a fair bit. Also, are you not interested in why ghug thinks HR is town?

[brainbomb]

ive not seen a single post where ghug said something and I nodded like yea hes got a point there

I agree but this is the complete opposite about how I felt when I played with scum!ghug so I'm unsure.

hes probably an alien then. he would take alien over mafia goon

[ghug]

this is gonna sound mean but does anyone care what ghug thinks this game? I never see him making a post anyone agrees with. nobody seems to care what he says he just gets townread for being objectionable

I feel like I'm pretty widely scumread

[kgray]

this is gonna sound mean but does anyone care what ghug thinks this game? I never see him making a post anyone agrees with. nobody seems to care what he says he just gets townread for being objectionable

Who's actively townreading ghug?

I was? I could still see there being towny things. why?

I can see some towny things too, I just don't remember him being particularly townread this game.

[kgray]

What makes you think that?

Hi Donny! Can you make some posts that are substantial, not parroting and not asking shallow questions? Thanks!

Why are you asking this of Donny? I feel like he's contributed a fair bit. Also, are you not interested in why ghug thinks HR is town?

Okay so celaph and Donny are officially not teammates.

[celaph]

Kgray, Ghug, Maniac at the very least.
Think of it this way. What's the upside for town doc to CC? If they get killed they flip and reveal my bullshit. If they don't they still have cover for their plays.

Yep - this checks out. In fact when HB asked me if he should expose a fake discard claimer, I advised him to consider if the fake claim could be town motivate (page 188).

@HB - do you see how Ezio’s fake discard claim could be townie in hindsight

Also I always thought the generally rule is don’t CC until you have to. People will bait a CC. Why give up you role too early?

Oof I haaaaate this post

I ask to poke fun more than anything, but what about Maniac is scummier than what he did last two games as town?

[Donny Dude]

Maniac, I liked your post about the psychotrooper. Had a question about it then realized it had a pretty obvious answer.

Do I push my claim today or let the traction on Celaph reach its natural conclusion?

What do you think the natural conclusion of the traction on me is? I've seen a number of people put me down as scum while a number have put me down as null/townlean.

I'm more interested to hear what you think of it.

##VOTE kgray

I am having a hard timwe with this vote by ghug on joining hr. Perhaps to get kgray riled and defend hr or see if others will join?

[Bonatogether]

Yep - this checks out. In fact when HB asked me if he should expose a fake discard claimer, I advised him to consider if the fake claim could be town motivate (page 188).

@HB - do you see how Ezio’s fake discard claim could be townie in hindsight

Also I always thought the generally rule is don’t CC until you have to. People will bait a CC. Why give up you role too early?

Oof I haaaaate this post

I ask to poke fun more than anything, but what about Maniac is scummier than what he did last two games as town?

When did celaph ever use emojis before when he was hunting? This is another major tonal difference

[Donny Dude]

I'm more interested to hear what you think of it.

##VOTE kgray

wtf what happened to me being maybe probably town?

Just the next step in pocketing Ezio

Why do you think HR is scummy?

##VOTE emc

Once called out on it by kgray flips to emc immediately. Like it was a joke vote, but I wonder if this backing meant ghug did not want to engage kgray.

[ghug]

What do you think the natural conclusion of the traction on me is? I've seen a number of people put me down as scum while a number have put me down as null/townlean.

I'm more interested to hear what you think of it.

##VOTE kgray

I am having a hard timwe with this vote by ghug on joining hr. Perhaps to get kgray riled and defend hr or see if others will join?

Read the next few posts.

[ghug]

wtf what happened to me being maybe probably town?

Just the next step in pocketing Ezio

Why do you think HR is scummy?

##VOTE emc

Once called out on it by kgray flips to emc immediately. Like it was a joke vote, but I wonder if this backing meant ghug did not want to engage kgray.

Oh you did read the next few posts and then your confbiased the shit out of it.

[BunnyGo]

Just the next step in pocketing Ezio

Why do you think HR is scummy?

##VOTE emc

Once called out on it by kgray flips to emc immediately. Like it was a joke vote, but I wonder if this backing meant ghug did not want to engage kgray.

Oh you did read the next few posts and then your confbiased the shit out of it.

Maybe you can explain your thinking? Did you have a plan worthy of ezio?

[kgray]

Yep - this checks out. In fact when HB asked me if he should expose a fake discard claimer, I advised him to consider if the fake claim could be town motivate (page 188).

@HB - do you see how Ezio’s fake discard claim could be townie in hindsight

Also I always thought the generally rule is don’t CC until you have to. People will bait a CC. Why give up you role too early?

Oof I haaaaate this post

I ask to poke fun more than anything, but what about Maniac is scummier than what he did last two games as town?

The "scummy" things I remember from town!Maniac include terrible reasons for votes, avoiding questions, and refusing to explain his thought process. I do not ever remember him lecturing town about how they should have done as he suggested, let along cited the page for evidence. And his not-so-subtle chastising of Hamilton for how he responded to Ezio's claim is just patronizing and unhelpful. And this absolute trash reaction to EoD2:

unreal. Obviously HR looks awful here and deserves to die tomorrow

Also Ezio, Rdr, BobMcBob, demon, Kgray, you all share the blame for this omnishambles. Make your mind up between between the top wagons.

Like seriously? How dare he lecture Hamilton for CCing Ezio and then claim that group of people for anything that happened EoD2. Ridiculous.