MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#3941 Post by Vecna » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:31 pm

I read his posts on the last few pages

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#3942 Post by kgray » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:32 pm

Vecna wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:31 pm
I read his posts on the last few pages
Do you get any impression at all that he's hunting?

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#3943 Post by kgray » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:32 pm

Vecna wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:30 pm
Like, Ghug, how are you of all people concerned about people lying?
He's just looking for easy ways to justify his votes cause he's scum and doesn't have real reads.

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#3944 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:33 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:23 pm
There was only one doctor (town) dealt. Ezio didn't get it.
How do you know only one dealt?

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#3945 Post by kgray » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:35 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:33 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:23 pm
There was only one doctor (town) dealt. Ezio didn't get it.
How do you know only one dealt?
There's only one in the deck.

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#3946 Post by Bonatogether » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:35 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:33 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:23 pm
There was only one doctor (town) dealt. Ezio didn't get it.
How do you know only one dealt?
There's only one Town Doctor in the deck


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#3948 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:35 pm

kgray wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:35 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:33 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:23 pm
There was only one doctor (town) dealt. Ezio didn't get it.
How do you know only one dealt?
There's only one in the deck.
While ezio definitely dodged the question on whether it was loud or not...there are 2 doctors

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#3949 Post by Hamilton Brian » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:36 pm

kgray wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:32 pm
Vecna wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:31 pm
I read his posts on the last few pages
Do you get any impression at all that he's hunting?
There was this post where they were intentionally directing it to you and ghug to "play around" with.

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#3950 Post by Vecna » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:36 pm

kgray wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:32 pm
Vecna wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:31 pm
I read his posts on the last few pages
Do you get any impression at all that he's hunting?
Going through his iso, im not seeing it. Just doing a lazy impression-read id probably guess him to be town.

Anyways, my opinion shouldnt really hold a lot of weight. I just feel like the people on this wagon are the types that would often misread slots like him.

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#3951 Post by Hamilton Brian » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:36 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:35 pm
kgray wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:35 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:33 pm


How do you know only one dealt?
There's only one in the deck.
While ezio definitely dodged the question on whether it was loud or not...there are 2 doctors
Yet they specifically wrote "town doctor."

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#3952 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:36 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:35 pm
kgray wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:35 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:33 pm


How do you know only one dealt?
There's only one in the deck.
While ezio definitely dodged the question on whether it was loud or not...there are 2 doctors
I haven't enjoyed ezio's cageyness or question dodging and hinting that there was a reason for his claimed pitch without ever saying it...

but I wish Hamilton had been able to push him more on this first

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#3953 Post by BunnyGo » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:37 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:36 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:35 pm
kgray wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:35 pm


There's only one in the deck.
While ezio definitely dodged the question on whether it was loud or not...there are 2 doctors
Yet they specifically wrote "town doctor."
well @ezio? time to finally answer some questions.

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#3954 Post by Bonatogether » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:38 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:35 pm
kgray wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:35 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:33 pm


How do you know only one dealt?
There's only one in the deck.
While ezio definitely dodged the question on whether it was loud or not...there are 2 doctors
He said "Town Doctor." "Loud Town Doctor" is a separate role with a different card. There's no reason for him to say "Town Doctor" when he was dealt "Loud Town Doctor",

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#3955 Post by Hamilton Brian » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:38 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:36 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:35 pm
kgray wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:35 pm


There's only one in the deck.
While ezio definitely dodged the question on whether it was loud or not...there are 2 doctors
I haven't enjoyed ezio's cageyness or question dodging and hinting that there was a reason for his claimed pitch without ever saying it...

but I wish Hamilton had been able to push him more on this first
Right; maybe I should have been more insistent or hammer-y. I'll chalk that up for next time.

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#3956 Post by ghug » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:38 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:27 pm
ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:25 pm
Ok so now the question is what motivation Ezio would have to lie about that as each alignment.
That's what I was wondering. It doesn't make sense. It's easily refuted.
Yeah, I think we can divide it into two cases.

Option one is that the card was never dealt, or discarded by a scum teammate (I'm discounting this, because I see little reason for you to out him like this if you're his scum teammate) and he gets away with it. If he's town, it makes him seem like a PR more valuable than a doctor and puts a target on his back. If he's alien or SK, it does the same thing. If he's mafia, he doesn't have to worry as much about being targeted. It also misleads everyone but those he might be in a QT with, which I suppose could benefit town (because mafia could target obvious choices without worry of a save).

Option two is that it's counterclaimed. If he's strictly gambling (aka not your teammate, which I again think is the most likely), then this is the more likely outcome of his gamble. The obvious scum advantage is outing a doctor or doctor discard. The obvious scum downside is putting a target on your back if you're caught. These are both disadvantages if he's town, so I'm inclined to ##VOTE Ezio

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#3957 Post by kgray » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:38 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:36 pm
kgray wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:32 pm
Vecna wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:31 pm
I read his posts on the last few pages
Do you get any impression at all that he's hunting?
There was this post where they were intentionally directing it to you and ghug to "play around" with.
I was asking Vecna about celaph, but yeah I definitely remember this. And I think he's implying the regular doctor, not the loud one.

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#3958 Post by Vecna » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:39 pm

this days progression sure has been pretty weird. Very fast wagons on both ghug and maniac that totally disintegrated. Someone have an explenation for that stufF?

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#3959 Post by kgray » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:40 pm

Vecna wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:36 pm
kgray wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:32 pm
Vecna wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:31 pm
I read his posts on the last few pages
Do you get any impression at all that he's hunting?
Going through his iso, im not seeing it. Just doing a lazy impression-read id probably guess him to be town.

Anyways, my opinion shouldnt really hold a lot of weight. I just feel like the people on this wagon are the types that would often misread slots like him.
You're not seeing him hunting or you're not seeing him as scum?

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#3960 Post by Hamilton Brian » Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:41 pm

kgray wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:38 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:36 pm
kgray wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:32 pm


Do you get any impression at all that he's hunting?
There was this post where they were intentionally directing it to you and ghug to "play around" with.
I was asking Vecna about celaph, but yeah I definitely remember this. And I think he's implying the regular doctor, not the loud one.
They were pretty explicit. If they had just said doctor, that would have been open for inferring.

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