MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[BobMcBob]

Did I ask you?
No, I did not .

Also forced.

Saying that ghug, Donny, and I had crappy scum theater (?)/ forced interactions on d1 is the dumbest thing I've ever heard

If that's where brain's going with this, I agree it's a bit of a wild assumption just based on a few posts that could easily be explained by other less conspiracistic theories, namely jokes.

[Bonatogether]

I was thinking to myself that you were going to claim this. Then thought: If he does claim this, what are the odds he kept it to have bulletproof and gamble on nobody taking lover while claiming to discard it.

I don’t know. But I think they’re decent.

Yeah.

Wanna explain this response? kinda looks like two scum buddies relieved that ifischl isnt a bp.

It would but for the fact that it's not

[brainbomb]

Page 54 interactions between bunny and bona look like scum buddies huddling mid game to talk shop. they discuss a desire to find cockroaches and their nest which kinda makes no sense given that later bona suddenly decided bunny was on his elim list for no reason and when push came to shove bona mostly just flakes on actually pushing bunny. and why would he?

theyre teammates.

##Vote bona

[Bonatogether]

Page 54 interactions between bunny and bona look like scum buddies huddling mid game to talk shop. they discuss a desire to find cockroaches and their nest which kinda makes no sense given that later bona suddenly decided bunny was on his elim list for no reason and when push came to shove bona mostly just flakes on actually pushing bunny. and why would he?

theyre teammates.

##Vote bona

Have you tried not wearing a tinfoil hat? You need so many logical leaps and assumptions to make this work that it's basically impossible.

[brainbomb]

it'd hurt, but I'd still be more in favor of it than a Macca, lfischl, or Ezio wagon

Ok...now you're just fu**ing with us to see how long we continue to believe you can actually think this. Right?

On d1 I actually do think it is better to vote brain than any of three I listed aside from maybe lfischl if he starts posting more. I prefer pressuring bunny or celaph, but if the choice is brain or ezio, I know what I'm choosing.

the page prior you had bunny right there. you guys were talking like best buds keen on killing all the cockroaches together. What changed? its not like you asked him any questions or argued about specific reads of his.

https://youtu.be/faFuaYA-daw

[BobMcBob]

Ah...I see why you say that.

I can see why you say that too, but given the fact that bona is still around I doubt bunny is vig.

Bunny wasn't scumreading Bona overnight.

He actively called for vig to shoot bona for info multiple times at the start of the night. Maybe his opinion changed by the end but I can't remember if so.

[Bonatogether]

Ok...now you're just fu**ing with us to see how long we continue to believe you can actually think this. Right?

On d1 I actually do think it is better to vote brain than any of three I listed aside from maybe lfischl if he starts posting more. I prefer pressuring bunny or celaph, but if the choice is brain or ezio, I know what I'm choosing.

the page prior you had bunny right there. you guys were talking like best buds keen on killing all the cockroaches together. What changed? its not like you asked him any questions or argued about specific reads of his.

https://youtu.be/faFuaYA-daw

What changed was in my head.

[brainbomb]

if maf have a doctor or a bp then that would play exactly into bona and bunny trying yo pull off a manuever. but ill think about it

[Bonatogether]

Brain I get that you're all but conf-town, but that doesn't make you right

[BobMcBob]

Ok...now you're just fu**ing with us to see how long we continue to believe you can actually think this. Right?

On d1 I actually do think it is better to vote brain than any of three I listed aside from maybe lfischl if he starts posting more. I prefer pressuring bunny or celaph, but if the choice is brain or ezio, I know what I'm choosing.

the page prior you had bunny right there. you guys were talking like best buds keen on killing all the cockroaches together. What changed? its not like you asked him any questions or argued about specific reads of his.

https://youtu.be/faFuaYA-daw

Bona has a very odd votes-based definition of pressure, but I agree this is a bit odd still

[Bonatogether]

if maf have a doctor or a bp then that would play exactly into bona and bunny trying yo pull off a manuever. but ill think about it

There is no mafia bulletproof card

[brainbomb]

Mafia Compulsive Hider
You are the MAFIA COMPULSIVE HIDER. Each day you must vote for a suspect. Each night, you MUST hide behind another player by PM-ing your target to both GMs. Your target will be unaware of your visit. If you can find your target, and if you are targeted with a killing action that night, your target will be hit by the attack instead. However, if the person you are hiding behind dies that night due to an active killing action being directed at them, then you will also die. If you hide behind someone with a night killing action, and they target you with their kill, this will resolve as normal (your target will not commit suicide in your place). Your Mafia team-mates are <NAME(S)> and you may communicate with them at NIGHT only in a QT, the link for which will be supplied when the game begins.You win when all non-Mafia Factions are defeated, or nothing can stop this from happening.
(COMPULSIVE / MANIPULATIVE / PROTECTIVE / KILLING)

Mafia Doctor
You are the MAFIA DOCTOR. Each day you must vote for a suspect. Each night, you may attempt to save the life of a player by PM-ing your target to both GMs. If your visit is successful, you will save your target from any killing actions performed on them that night. You cannot save someone from being killed by a Strongman. You *may* target yourself, but you may *not* target the same player on consecutive nights. If you save your target from an attack which would otherwise have killed them, your target will be notified that they were saved. Your Mafia team-mates are <NAME(S)> and you may communicate with them at NIGHT only in a QT, the link for which will be supplied when the game begins.You win when all non-Mafia Factions are defeated, or nothing can stop this from happening.
(PROTECTIVE)

[Bonatogether]

?

[brainbomb]

Bunny says hey vig shoot bona
Bona hides behind a towny they want dead

they were potentially using bona as a meat shield

[Bonatogether]

Bunny says hey vig shoot bona
Bona hides behind a towny they want dead

they were potentially using bona as a meat shield

I don't even know what to say to this

[brainbomb]

as far as I can tell this maf doc can save the hider no matter which target was shot at circumventing the fail mechanism

[Bonatogether]

as far as I can tell this maf doc can save the hider no matter which target was shot at circumventing the fail mechanism

But why not just shoot someone normally and save the killer? I don't see how this is better than normal.

[brainbomb]

thats enough for tonight. my cases can be very long and miss key points. I will stop for now and give bona time to reply and bunny as well.

But I urge town to consider killing bona, or bunny based on this analysis

[Bonatogether]

thats enough for tonight. my cases can be very long and miss key points. I will stop for now and give bona time to reply and bunny as well.

But I urge town to consider killing bona, or bunny based on this analysis

I've already replied to your posts. You should respond to those.

[Ezio]

Ghug, is your town game more bland than your scum game in general?

Depends what you mean by bland.

I make more of an effort to check all the boxes as scum, which could come across as less bland, but I'm also less likely to do off-the-walls shit, which could come across as more bland.

Having skimmed the your iso, I have moved you to a null/slight scum. ##vote Hamilton.
I believe the main factors that me scum read Ghug are mainly based on two d1 things. One was the kgray fearkill interaction and the way your votes were at eod. For the eod votes, I don't know if scum you goes hippity hoppity that late. I would expect slightly less movement if main wagons were town and you were scum. Since you were moving around, I think a defense would have come sooner than the vote on ezio if celaph were scum with you. I believe the last part is that I don't see as many jokes or trying to pocket as last game. Finally, I believe there is a factor of paranoia in my brain because of last game where I thought you were town.

Fwiw ghug has obviously tried to pocket me.

When I said "smart ppl do stupid things", he said "like ezio pushes nokill every game".

Clearly a compliment for me. He only does that while pocketing me, which he could have tried to do after I asked him questions and voted him.
Please note our earlier interaction where ghug said "I forgot how much you piss me off"