MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[BobMcBob]

Where are you getting two kills from?

Factional and potentially a bloodsucker

Is bloodsucker really as bad as a kill though? They can still post, and they're conf not-alien (and likely conf-town).

Also, bloodsucker can't be used the same night as an nk.

Posting is all they can do. They're functionally dead in every other way. Not as bad as a kill but only slightly.

[brainbomb]

Intent? Last game he felt lost and embraced it. This game he feels lost and yet is pushing and pretending to be confident.

After rereading Bona last game, do you still agree with this part or do you retract that too?

Not sure. Maybe I'm remembering him from later in the game where I thought he was much more purposeful (hard for people to read, but purposeful). But the D1 lack of obv. towning seems similar both games.

celaph looks like town here and this response by bunny once again just talks past games, memory, D1 lack of obv towning. Bunny is just cutting bona slack for no logical reasons

[brainbomb]

Did Ezio and/or bozo confirm they were playing and knew the start date? If they didn't respond to role choice, it'd just be random assignment and we wouldn't know.

Interesting concern here. Once again does nothing to further the game.

[brainbomb]

Didn't brain say he and bona played on discord with lfischl? And that lfischl won as scum?

ah k.
TO Brain and Bona, is this normal activity from lfischl and is it ai?

Discord is different, and I'll go reread those, but he definitely seems to be posting a lot less.

this open ended justification for scumreading ifischl looks very scummy and opportunistic by bona. he claims he will go reread the discord games but he never really explains what the differences were in prezs two games. only when pressured does bona finally say he should deserve credit for going to reread entire games on discord and tries to act like that was productive.

[brainbomb]

I'm reading an Ifishcl town game (pr, no less), and he is acting very similar to how he is here. It's probably NAI, but we should get him to post more.

[Bonatogether]

ah k.
TO Brain and Bona, is this normal activity from lfischl and is it ai?

Discord is different, and I'll go reread those, but he definitely seems to be posting a lot less.

this open ended justification for scumreading ifischl looks very scummy and opportunistic by bona. he claims he will go reread the discord games but he never really explains what the differences were in prezs two games. only when pressured does bona finally say he should deserve credit for going to reread entire games on discord and tries to act like that was productive.

This is misleading. It's a different format, with different players, who have different playstyles. It's not like here where you can go back to m45 and have a majority of the same players with near-identical set-ups. I also never claim to have actually reread the whole darn things - only the d1s of each, since knowing what he does on different days doesn't help us when we were only on d1.

[brainbomb]

In Ifischl's scum game, he was even less active. This might be AI, but he might just be having trouble getting to the forum? I'm still gonna scumlean him for it.

yea theres no way you really read those games that fast bona

[Bonatogether]

I'm reading an Ifishcl town game (pr, no less), and he is acting very similar to how he is here. It's probably NAI, but we should get him to post more.

So when I had reread part of one game with him, I had an opinion that I later changed. That doesn't say anything about me.

[Bonatogether]

In Ifischl's scum game, he was even less active. This might be AI, but he might just be having trouble getting to the forum? I'm still gonna scumlean him for it.

yea theres no way you really read those games that fast bona

I skimmed the parts where he wasn't posting (ie, most of it)

[brainbomb]

4:16 pm
4:26 pm

youre telling me you read two full discord games in an hour span and concluded ifischl was likely just scum based on his most recent one

[Bonatogether]

Also, there's no damn reason that you can scumread me for pushing someone who was acting scummy and didn't claim on d1.

[BobMcBob]

It looks like you wanted someone to think you might be a vig bunny

Ah...I see why you say that.

I can see why you say that too, but given the fact that bona is still around I doubt bunny is vig.

[Bonatogether]

4:16 pm
4:26 pm

youre telling me you read two full discord games in an hour span and concluded ifischl was likely just scum based on his most recent one

I read the conversations he was involved in on the first day of two different games. I concluded that he was more likely to be scum.

[brainbomb]

Who do you think is saving who?

No idea. Probably lfish? But letting brain and bona lead town is a bad play

What's wrong with brain?

bona was leading town? why didnt you take offense to being criticised here bona?

[Bonatogether]

No idea. Probably lfish? But letting brain and bona lead town is a bad play

What's wrong with brain?

bona was leading town? why didnt you take offense to being criticised here bona?

I know people don't think I'm a good player, so that's par for the course, but saying you're harming town by leading it is really weird.

[brainbomb]

oh, I discarded alien bulletproof lover.

I was thinking to myself that you were going to claim this. Then thought: If he does claim this, what are the odds he kept it to have bulletproof and gamble on nobody taking lover while claiming to discard it.

I don’t know. But I think they’re decent.

So bunny is worried about there being a bp alien in play. bona accepts this claim and says

sick

[Bonatogether]

oh, I discarded alien bulletproof lover.

I was thinking to myself that you were going to claim this. Then thought: If he does claim this, what are the odds he kept it to have bulletproof and gamble on nobody taking lover while claiming to discard it.

I don’t know. But I think they’re decent.

So bunny is worried about there being a bp alien in play. bona accepts this claim and says

sick

I don't see how this makes me scum? Are you building up to I'm scum with bunny?

[brainbomb]

oh, I discarded alien bulletproof lover.

I was thinking to myself that you were going to claim this. Then thought: If he does claim this, what are the odds he kept it to have bulletproof and gamble on nobody taking lover while claiming to discard it.

I don’t know. But I think they’re decent.

Yeah.

Wanna explain this response? kinda looks like two scum buddies relieved that ifischl isnt a bp.

[ghug]

It looks like you wanted someone to think you might be a vig bunny

Ah...I see why you say that.

I can see why you say that too, but given the fact that bona is still around I doubt bunny is vig.

Bunny wasn't scumreading Bona overnight.

[Bonatogether]

Ah...I see why you say that.

I can see why you say that too, but given the fact that bona is still around I doubt bunny is vig.

Bunny wasn't scumreading Bona overnight.

They were extremely angry at me though