MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[brainbomb]

It's worth noting that more discarded mafia cards increase the likelihood that a larger than expected number of mafia cards were given out. That said, I doubt many scum would risk claiming to discard a card that they didn't have. So while it may be interesting, I'm expecting that its use will be limited outside of lovers.

Got any reads, celaph?

I like you, BB, and Bona.

You because you're asking the right questions and as rdr said, you're saying the things that I want to say which gave me the correct good vibes M62. Perhaps also because I haven't been badly burned by scum kgray yet, though that will wait to be seen.

BB because I'm getting genuine enthusiasm which makes me think he got a role that he likes. I also think he is more likely PR than VT because of that. Lastly, his defense of himself against Bona and his wagon in general sounded like someone who knew they were right, but were hoping to keep their hand back.

As I've mentioned earlier I'm getting weird vibes from ghug. I feel like he believed more in the D1 ND push in M62 than he has believed in any of the pushes the last two games.

The other person I'm keeping an eye on right now is Bunny. His game reminds me more of his M62 performance so far than his M63 one. He's lacking a level of confidence.

That said, I have no one I'm particularly keen on voting out so far so waiting so see where I will put that.

Like I dont feel these thoughts are the way celaph played last two games where he linked to things a ton but maybe thats him just adjusting more to topical conversative play. This looks authentic

[brainbomb]

When I hard townread him he even asked me why which I dont think scum would do

[brainbomb]

celaph is at worst a neutral alien, and more likely to just be town. but I can be wrong from time to time

[Hellenic Riot]

I feel like there's a pretty gigantic hole in the 'daykill celaph to figure out if there's a psycho' theory in that if the roleblocker is the alien rb role then damo is never going to get any more reports anyway, so we'd be better off keeping Celaph and possibly forcing the scum team to waste an NK on him to prevent a potential clear reaching the endgame

[kgray]

I feel like there's a pretty gigantic hole in the 'daykill celaph to figure out if there's a psycho' theory in that if the roleblocker is the alien rb role then damo is never going to get any more reports anyway, so we'd be better off keeping Celaph and possibly forcing the scum team to waste an NK on him to prevent a potential clear reaching the endgame

It's not just damo's scans though.

[kgray]

I feel like there's a pretty gigantic hole in the 'daykill celaph to figure out if there's a psycho' theory in that if the roleblocker is the alien rb role then damo is never going to get any more reports anyway, so we'd be better off keeping Celaph and possibly forcing the scum team to waste an NK on him to prevent a potential clear reaching the endgame

It's not just damo's scans though.

Also I'm very unclear how celaph could be a potential clear from this.

[Maniac]

jesus that's a hard dig. I'm down to the clay.

On a break so will do some reading, but I spy a speed wagon and gotta love a speed wagon.

##vote celaph

[Donny Dude]

Sorry for being MIA

Been a busy few days. I’ve spent a lot of time at my wife’s grave.

She’s not dead. She thinks I’m digging a pond.

I’ll be back on later.

K, I think I am not willing to vote for Celaph based on what Brain posted. And although sparse from Maniac, the above is typically how I remember him.
##vote Ghug

[ghug]

I am offended for kgray that ghug felt she would be the easier one to mindwarp out of eliminating him.

Do you really think I cant be reasoned with ghug, or sorry, I mean bamboozled?

You'll give up on me all on your own

[Hellenic Riot]

It also strikes me that this would be a genius move from a scum damo who was under pretty significant suspicion N1 here. Not only does all attention go away from his claim, but by putting the report on someone quite suspicious there's a decent chance that this whole flip-for-confirmation idea might come up... And if it's wrong, he just goes "Hey there's a psychotrooper" - Which might in turn trick more PR's into outing with what they think are guilties when in fact they're actually innos... And even if not, damo has a great excuse for why he's not dead (I'm just getting RB'd) AND if the RB does get daykilled he can still then hail mary a guilty on someone in a few days time as well

[Hellenic Riot]

Like one fake claim can simultaneously give someone a great excuse to ensure they aren't daykilled OR nightkilled, *and* to get multiple townies daykilled. We should be intensely suspicious of any and all report claims as a result

[ghug]

It also strikes me that this would be a genius move from a scum damo who was under pretty significant suspicion N1 here. Not only does all attention go away from his claim, but by putting the report on someone quite suspicious there's a decent chance that this whole flip-for-confirmation idea might come up... And if it's wrong, he just goes "Hey there's a psychotrooper" - Which might in turn trick more PR's into outing with what they think are guilties when in fact they're actually innos... And even if not, damo has a great excuse for why he's not dead (I'm just getting RB'd) AND if the RB does get daykilled he can still then hail mary a guilty on someone in a few days time as well

I feel like you're overstating the suspicion he was under.

[Hellenic Riot]

It also strikes me that this would be a genius move from a scum damo who was under pretty significant suspicion N1 here. Not only does all attention go away from his claim, but by putting the report on someone quite suspicious there's a decent chance that this whole flip-for-confirmation idea might come up... And if it's wrong, he just goes "Hey there's a psychotrooper" - Which might in turn trick more PR's into outing with what they think are guilties when in fact they're actually innos... And even if not, damo has a great excuse for why he's not dead (I'm just getting RB'd) AND if the RB does get daykilled he can still then hail mary a guilty on someone in a few days time as well

I feel like you're overstating the suspicion he was under.

I feel like if someone is under suspicion from both myself & kgray, and if we're both town, then they would certainly have reason to be discomfited

[ghug]

It also strikes me that this would be a genius move from a scum damo who was under pretty significant suspicion N1 here. Not only does all attention go away from his claim, but by putting the report on someone quite suspicious there's a decent chance that this whole flip-for-confirmation idea might come up... And if it's wrong, he just goes "Hey there's a psychotrooper" - Which might in turn trick more PR's into outing with what they think are guilties when in fact they're actually innos... And even if not, damo has a great excuse for why he's not dead (I'm just getting RB'd) AND if the RB does get daykilled he can still then hail mary a guilty on someone in a few days time as well

I feel like you're overstating the suspicion he was under.

I feel like if someone is under suspicion from both myself & kgray, and if we're both town, then they would certainly have reason to be discomfited

Why does everyone always leave me out

[Hellenic Riot]

I feel like you're overstating the suspicion he was under.

I feel like if someone is under suspicion from both myself & kgray, and if we're both town, then they would certainly have reason to be discomfited

Why does everyone always leave me out

I didn't realise you actually suspected anyone

[ghug]

I feel like if someone is under suspicion from both myself & kgray, and if we're both town, then they would certainly have reason to be discomfited

Why does everyone always leave me out

I didn't realise you actually suspected anyone

Oh maybe I only voiced it by telling the aliens to deal with him

[Hellenic Riot]

I mean the fact that damo outed *ENTIRELY* to protect celaph when he was on zero votes, and then was the first vote on celaph the second the confirmation flip was suggested makes me even more suspicious here.

[brainbomb]

Sorry for being MIA

Been a busy few days. I’ve spent a lot of time at my wife’s grave.

She’s not dead. She thinks I’m digging a pond.

I’ll be back on later.

K, I think I am not willing to vote for Celaph based on what Brain posted. And although sparse from Maniac, the above is typically how I remember him.
##vote Ghug

Huh? it was a really poorly defended ISO, lazy even for me

[brainbomb]

I feel like if someone is under suspicion from both myself & kgray, and if we're both town, then they would certainly have reason to be discomfited

Why does everyone always leave me out

I didn't realise you actually suspected anyone

to be fair hes tried to get 100% of the masons killed. must be a goddamn fish eater

[Donny Dude]

Sorry for being MIA

Been a busy few days. I’ve spent a lot of time at my wife’s grave.

She’s not dead. She thinks I’m digging a pond.

I’ll be back on later.

K, I think I am not willing to vote for Celaph based on what Brain posted. And although sparse from Maniac, the above is typically how I remember him.
##vote Ghug

Huh? it was a really poorly defended ISO, lazy even for me

K, What do you make of Damo based off Hr?