MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[jasnah]

You are a celaph voter???

Yeah I am because I don't mind him dying, as I just said. I'm assuming you don't either since you're also on the same wagon. Am I making myself unclear?

[Bonatogether]

You are a celaph voter???

Yeah I am because I don't mind him dying, as I just said. I'm assuming you don't either since you're also on the same wagon. Am I making myself unclear?

Your statement implied that you weren't a huge fan of the wagon, so I'm confused.

[kgray]

Can you explain why you thought Rivera was protected yesterday?

You and Demon both switched from rdrivera to Bunny go when Bunny go was just one vote, and then not back to rdrivera but to celaph. It can make sense as town, fine, you don't have a strong preference between them and weakly prefer celaph. I understood and was fine killing celaph too.

But at the same time Bona took the opportunity to directly switch from rdrivera to celaph, when the rdr wagon still had 4 people on, like a jackrabbit with a bad case of shiny object syndrome. So it's possible that everyone is town or not malicious. But it's also possible not.

Of course there's also brain bomb who started the Bunny wagon to begin with and never got off it even when it became apparent that was a ride down a dead end road

Why would these people, if scum with Rivera, get a Rivera wagon going just to leave it and save him? Why not let lfischl die, or just pick a non-teammate target? It doesn't make sense for scum to stir up all that crap, especially on their teammate Rivera, when a townie was a contending wagon for so much of the day. Scum don't push their teammate's wagon in a coordinated effort only to jump off together to keep them around.

Besides, everyone you've mentioned as being potential savers of Rivera are in my towncore.

[ghug]

Are you even reading this game? Bona is the most obv-town person here.

No I am

No. Definitely me.

I'm bummed. I really thought you were bluffing VT or mafia and not PR that had outed D1 for no reason.

[ghug]

I sense a policy-kill coming. Bona, let it go.

Let's stop threatening someone for having a bad opinion just because brain can't handle pressure.

Expressing your thoughts isn't scummy.

Kill this please. Maybe not today because probably celaph should go first. But soon.

Why are you suddenly so confident I'm scum?

[kgray]

I would like to know why people prefer a Maniac wagon to emc, Vecna, and Macca.

One of these things is not like the others. You scumread Macca?

I don't townread them like I did last time they were obvtown to me.

[ghug]

I would like to know why people prefer a Maniac wagon to emc, Vecna, and Macca.

One of these things is not like the others. You scumread Macca?

I don't townread them like I did last time they were obvtown to me.

Weren't they really apparent scum when they were scum, though?

[jasnah]

@ Bona Your lack of reading comprehension is a little disturbing but I'm glad we now appear to be on the same page

@ kgray OK if we take all of those points then you're probably more favourable toward killing celaph? Especially as you were also voting him yesterday. If people really think Bona is obviously town then there's less of a case that celaph was coordinated to be saved, but then I now like more of the people on the celaph wagon than the lfischl wagon

And there's almost certainly at least one scum in @kgray's town core

[kgray]

Let's stop threatening someone for having a bad opinion just because brain can't handle pressure.

Expressing your thoughts isn't scummy.

Kill this please. Maybe not today because probably celaph should go first. But soon.

Why are you suddenly so confident I'm scum?

I think you're pretending to do pro-town things but you don't actually care about helping town, only how you look.

[brainbomb]

ghug is it against your wincon to fully claim

[ghug]

Kill this please. Maybe not today because probably celaph should go first. But soon.

Why are you suddenly so confident I'm scum?

I think you're pretending to do pro-town things but you don't actually care about helping town, only how you look.

If I cared how I looked, I wouldn't be the lead wagon right now.

I can kind of get why you'd be scumreading me, but the forcefulness with which you're doing it, especially after spending much of the night questioning the people shading me, feels inauthentic.

[kgray]

One of these things is not like the others. You scumread Macca?

I don't townread them like I did last time they were obvtown to me.

Weren't they really apparent scum when they were scum, though?

No, they were many people's top townread. People thought they were just newish and overwhelmed, but I was scum with them and saw in the daychat how hesitant they were to post reads. So the next game when I played with them and saw them posting their thoughts freely I correctly townread them. I'm not getting that now.

[ghug]

ghug is it against your wincon to fully claim

Inasmuch as it is for any townie.

[brainbomb]

ghug is it against your wincon to fully claim

Inasmuch as it is for any townie.

so not at all

[ghug]

I don't townread them like I did last time they were obvtown to me.

Weren't they really apparent scum when they were scum, though?

No, they were many people's top townread. People thought they were just newish and overwhelmed, but I was scum with them and saw in the daychat how hesitant they were to post reads. So the next game when I played with them and saw them posting their thoughts freely I correctly townread them. I'm not getting that now.

Hmm, ok. Weren't you scum when they were last town?

[kgray]

@ Bona Your lack of reading comprehension is a little disturbing but I'm glad we now appear to be on the same page

@ kgray OK if we take all of those points then you're probably more favourable toward killing celaph? Especially as you were also voting him yesterday. If people really think Bona is obviously town then there's less of a case that celaph was coordinated to be saved, but then I now like more of the people on the celaph wagon than the lfischl wagon

And there's almost certainly at least one scum in @kgray's town core

I think celaph is a good kill because I scumread him and he tells us whether the scans are messed up or not, yes.

There are no scum in my towncore. That's why it's my towncore.

[ghug]

ghug is it against your wincon to fully claim

Inasmuch as it is for any townie.

so not at all

Therein lies the difference between us, brain.

[kgray]

Weren't they really apparent scum when they were scum, though?

No, they were many people's top townread. People thought they were just newish and overwhelmed, but I was scum with them and saw in the daychat how hesitant they were to post reads. So the next game when I played with them and saw them posting their thoughts freely I correctly townread them. I'm not getting that now.

Hmm, ok. Weren't you scum when they were last town?

Yes, I'm talking about M1015 when we were scum together and then M59 when we were both town.

[BunnyGo]

@ Bona Your lack of reading comprehension is a little disturbing but I'm glad we now appear to be on the same page

@ kgray OK if we take all of those points then you're probably more favourable toward killing celaph? Especially as you were also voting him yesterday. If people really think Bona is obviously town then there's less of a case that celaph was coordinated to be saved, but then I now like more of the people on the celaph wagon than the lfischl wagon

And there's almost certainly at least one scum in @kgray's town core

Real question: how do you know celaph was saved? You keep making assertions like they are facts and it’s disturbing me.

Also, there’s almost certainly 1 scum in any large enough group of players

[kgray]

Why are you suddenly so confident I'm scum?

I think you're pretending to do pro-town things but you don't actually care about helping town, only how you look.

If I cared how I looked, I wouldn't be the lead wagon right now.

I can kind of get why you'd be scumreading me, but the forcefulness with which you're doing it, especially after spending much of the night questioning the people shading me, feels inauthentic.

I can question why other people scumread you and still scumread you.

If you think I'm inauthentic, vote for me. Let's see how that goes.