MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[rdrivera2005]

## Vote celaph

People seem to have lost interest in this wagon even though if anyone was protected yesterday it was likely to have been celaph or rdr, and town has thus far shown zero interest in pursuing a rdr wagon. Why?

Because I am obviously town. And because it's not polite to kill someone on vacation.

[kgray]

I would like to know why people prefer a Maniac wagon to emc, Vecna, and Macca.

Honestly, with exception of Vecna (that I have hope that could start playing) i would not mind wagoning them.

Why you don't like Maniac wagon?

Because I don't see anything that is particularly scummy or different from his recent town games. I have yet to see anyone explain a scumread on him besides you and ghug saying he was less active/invested than normal (I'm not sure I agree) or people not liking his votes - but honestly I think I've hated 75% of town!Maniac's votes, so I'm not seeing it as scum-indicative. I just think he's an easy target.

I have no read on Vecna, but if he's town then I think scum are afraid to push him and know town will resist it because his reputation.

emc's absence is weird but his tone when he was here seemed annoyed and distracted, and I expect for scum!emc to have more fun, especially if he's an alien. Maybe he got in my head after calling me out for not defending him, but I this behavior is more likely explained by irl stuff than by him being scum.

I remember being really confident of my townread on Macca when they were town after I played with them as scum, and I don't feel that way now.

[ghug]

I think we should vote from the Mafia goon claimants as being the most likely to hold interesting scum roles.

Let's start with ##vote Bona

Are you even reading this game? Bona is the most obv-town person here.

No I am

[kgray]

## Vote celaph

People seem to have lost interest in this wagon even though if anyone was protected yesterday it was likely to have been celaph or rdr, and town has thus far shown zero interest in pursuing a rdr wagon. Why?

Can you explain why you thought Rivera was protected yesterday?

[damo666]

I think we should vote from the Mafia goon claimants as being the most likely to hold interesting scum roles.

Let's start with ##vote Bona

Are you even reading this game? Bona is the most obv-town person here.

No I am

No. Definitely me.

[brainbomb]

celaph and rivera are never same team if thats the case

[kgray]

## Vote celaph

People seem to have lost interest in this wagon even though if anyone was protected yesterday it was likely to have been celaph or rdr, and town has thus far shown zero interest in pursuing a rdr wagon. Why?

Can you explain why you thought Rivera was protected yesterday?

And more specifically, by whom?

[ghug]

I sense a policy-kill coming. Bona, let it go.

Let's stop threatening someone for having a bad opinion just because brain can't handle pressure.

Expressing your thoughts isn't scummy.

[kgray]

I sense a policy-kill coming. Bona, let it go.

Let's stop threatening someone for having a bad opinion just because brain can't handle pressure.

Expressing your thoughts isn't scummy.

Kill this please. Maybe not today because probably celaph should go first. But soon.

[brainbomb]

I sense a policy-kill coming. Bona, let it go.

Let's stop threatening someone for having a bad opinion just because brain can't handle pressure.

Expressing your thoughts isn't scummy.

how about no
our mason chat was all annoyed with bona, and to be honest we had discussed multiple times how we were not gonna claim and how maybe we had been obvious but we wanted to be a buffer for invest roles anywau

[brainbomb]

and all three of us are town who want ghug dead so theres that

[Bonatogether]

I sense a policy-kill coming. Bona, let it go.

Let's stop threatening someone for having a bad opinion just because brain can't handle pressure.

Expressing your thoughts isn't scummy.

how about no
our mason chat was all annoyed with bona, and to be honest we had discussed multiple times how we were not gonna claim and how maybe we had been obvious but we wanted to be a buffer for invest roles anywau

D=

[jasnah]

Can you explain why you thought Rivera was protected yesterday?

You and Demon both switched from rdrivera to Bunny go when Bunny go was just one vote, and then not back to rdrivera but to celaph. It can make sense as town, fine, you don't have a strong preference between them and weakly prefer celaph. I understood and was fine killing celaph too.

But at the same time Bona took the opportunity to directly switch from rdrivera to celaph, when the rdr wagon still had 4 people on, like a jackrabbit with a bad case of shiny object syndrome. So it's possible that everyone is town or not malicious. But it's also possible not.

Of course there's also brain bomb who started the Bunny wagon to begin with and never got off it even when it became apparent that was a ride down a dead end road

[brainbomb]

Of course there's also brain bomb who started the Bunny wagon to begin with and never got off it even when it became apparent that was a ride down a dead end road

who was it apparent too?
like the entire game as a whole?
the 1957 denver broncos?
webdiplomacy moderator chat?

It went from a 6 to a nothing because bunny threw out that he had gotten rid of the roleblocker card and he hard claimed a non specific very OP town role which its looking less likely to be true by the hour

[ghug]

##vote ghug

defend yourself

Wtf you were townreading me a minute ago.

[brainbomb]

Why would bunny be obvious town just for a non specific claim

[jasnah]

@ brain bomb You should start a bunny wagon, I like to see town expressing their opinions and providing opportunities.

I would join a bunny wagon if one became viable. However as yet there are no bunny votes and three celaph votes which I don't mind.

[Bonatogether]

@ brain bomb You should start a bunny wagon, I like to see town expressing their opinions and providing opportunities.

I would join a bunny wagon if one became viable. However as yet there are no bunny votes and three celaph votes which I don't mind.

You are a celaph voter???

[brainbomb]

I mean bunny probably will die after I do in this game. welcome to webdip where the points dont matter and the signups keep comin

[ghug]

I would like to know why people prefer a Maniac wagon to emc, Vecna, and Macca.

One of these things is not like the others. You scumread Macca?