MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[brainbomb]

I know what you did last summer

[Bonatogether]

I know what you did last summer

and what was that?

[ghug]

I know what you did last summer

and what was that?

Don't encourage him.

[Bonatogether]

I know what you did last summer

and what was that?

Don't encourage him.

Idrc

[Bonatogether]

I want him to explain what's up with him, kgray, and demon

[brainbomb]

I want him to explain what's up with him, kgray, and demon

what would be productive about me discussing such a thing if there were such a connection

[brainbomb]

Why are you PR hunting?

[Bonatogether]

Why are you PR hunting?

I'm scum hunting as far as I know

[DemonRHK]

[PREFACE NOTE: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS GAME AND IS FOR MY AMUSMENT AND BONA'S SOMETHING]

Really sad I'm doing most of this on a Ctrl+F of the word fuck

L-Word warning, this was years ago.


M21

What the actual fuck do you want me to respond to? DLs entire post was saying he didn't like that I am aware that I come off scummy every game (and guess what, I'm being scumread!) and that he's bitching that I was scruntizing DD for being constructive (which is the last fucking thing he's been thus far) because frankly it's not of character for what we've seen thus far.

I have been poking and prodding at people. I've been more active and useful than many people in this game. Even you have been. You refusal to acknowledge my other posts is my ace in the hole and your error.

I am not scum. I've been grilling more people than you have and if you are town I don't want to have to send you to the gallows.

Ok, so no one care about the points I've laid out against Flood.
Over half the players are scumreading me.
Now I'm 'useless'
I might be drunk, but even drunk I'm far from useless.
I'm town. I have over a dozen crumbs at this point.
BB and Ogion want to see me swing, PUT YOUR FUCKING MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS.
##VOTE DEMONRHK
##END

Suihammer! <3


M25

Because I was on my largest scumread. I didn't think you were scum right up to you SINGLE-FUCKING-HANDEDLY deciding to kill a townie

Into on the same page:

And I sure not one thing about this wagon out of the blue was suspicious to you? Do you normally miss giant fucking warning signs? Fall into open manholes frequently?

Vecna - Slight Town
- As much as he is to blame for Zorc, I can't help but TR him for now, but barely.

Rdrivera - Slight Scum
- 'Is that the stupid play where I run downfield and look like I'm lost?' -Billy Bob

Krellin - Hard something
- We should know soon. King scum or most town.

Brain - Slight Town
- Lynching town after town and just shrugging it off. That's not good or town play.

Chaqa - Mod. Scum
- The swap that wrecked the day. Doesn't want to vote with a scumread, jumps to voting with next biggest scumread based on the last read list he ACTUALLY FUCKING DECIDED TO GIVE US, NIGHT 2.

MF - Slight Town
- Our early spat, disarding my out of game grudge at the time, seems very town v town, and he's just as pissed about Ike slipping the fli as I am.

Darg - Mod. Town
- Still doesn't seem like scum, or if he is, he's passive and lazy and an acctive detriment to them.

Teacon - Useless (Null)
- Cough, cough, cough, HOW DO I BUY MAFIA CLIFFNOTES?!? WHY WON'T ANYONE GIVE ME THEIR SKEWED VERSION OF THE LAST 40 PAGES AND ACTIVELY ATTEMPT TO INFLUENCE MY OUTLOOK ON THE GAME??

Kaka - Slight scum
- Still hasn't been on major wagons...yet to me gained towncred by not being around. Sad.

ND - Null
- Mulligan due to above-mentioned Bullshit with krellin.

Guak - Dead Weight (Null)
- AT LEAST HE'S NOT FUCKING SHOOTING DOCTORS.

Ike - 'HARDER THAN JOHN HOLMES' SCUM
- I'm not going into this anymore. The only thing else I could do is take out a fucking billboard. If you aren't convinced by now you're scum or simple.

Flood - Tilting at Windmills (Null)
- GAIS, I THINK RHK IS SCUM AND HERE IS WHY I'VE DONE LITTLE TO NO OTHER SCUMREADING BECAUSE OF IT!\

It's either Ike/Chaqa/Rdrivera/Teacon or Ike/Krellin/Vecna/Kaka

EoN reads into...

SOMEONE GIVE THE FUCKING DOC A COOKIE

XD

I've helped bust the entire game by catching Chaqa trying to slip a fake rb past us. I correctly called that the roleblocker missed the rb. I've made cases and pushed people, I've spent multiple days trying to make up for being useless early because I'm shit at days 1 and 2 historically. If you fuckwits mislynch me I will not let you forget it for games.

I was in rare form in 25


M36

Un-fucking-believable.

I was wrong on Telamor, and I’m sorry about that. RIP

But shame on all of you for letting Balki save that fucker AGAIN.

But bo’s “foolproof analysis” states that they HAVE to be both town or both scum.

There not been a case made for why snowy can really be town. The voting evidence is there, last minute rallies to lynch someone else, twice, and both were town.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, IT’S A FUCKKNG DUCK.

M39

Please people get the fuck on rd, his claims are shit and his entire defense to it is calling accusers stupid.

He claimed an item that can’t be substantiated, and faked the rb. THERE IS NO REASON SCUM WOULD RB IN THE UNCLEAR POOL

RD is going to get off again. Come the fuck on.

M41

I don't need a fucking link for wifom.

wifom is everywhere and everything. The very definition and any attempt to apply or label something as wifom IS wifom. It's a parody of itself.

Squigs upvoted a lot of stuff! Maybe there's scum there.
BUT WAIT! He knows it'd look suspicious, so he's doing to throw us off.
BUT WAIT! He knows we'd know it'd look suspicious so he can hide real power activation there.
BUT WAIT! He knows we'd know it suspicious AND he could hide because of that so he'll use it to red herring.
And so on, for the rest of time.

WIFOM is frankly a shit concept used mostly by mafia to cause Analysis Paralysis and overthinking. It almost never fucking helps to ignore facts based on that.

I'd rather take a chance and be wrong then never take a chance at all.

Occam's Razor. The most likely play is that there was a power that needed activated so squigs started on page one and upvoted every fucking post until he hit the player that needed upvoted.

So damo hard outs Jamie. That's fucking great.

Then Foxy forgets both the Power Thief AND the Medium are dead.

Other than Jamie, Quas, and Crimson is ANYONE else actually fucking reading the game?

Night 3, page 106. Those were the days.

I'm sick and fucking tired of this motherfucker looking over his fucking glasses like a holier than thou god of mafia ringer that brain recruited from MU.

His entire argument doubles down on a caught SK Foxcastle being given a fakeclaim that DOES NOT FIT HIS SCAN as he claims doc on the gallows, then doubles down on a fake jail claim, against a role only two people can possibly be, to avoid the mafia killing Jamie and him being called out on it.

Hey! I found them! LordQuas is who Jas reminds me of.

Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:41 am
##VOTE DEMONRHK

End hammering, when nobody else is doing so, whilst also moaning about how much you hate the option you're voting and end hammering on?

That's some nasty shit.

Y'all want to fucking no lynch? Fine. I don't like it, I think we should be in control of our own destiny. Now instead of maybe fucking up and having a slim chance to still be in it D5, we're throwing everything on being right D5 or losing.

Why the fuck wouldn't I endhammer a NO LYNCH? So we can all circlejerk the same theories around for another entire day? Fuck that shit, if we're gonna rush this shit through let's get on with it. The deeper the game goes the harder it is for town to stay invested, while scum have a fucking day chat and get to talk shop for what is going to amount to a 72 hour night phase.

...did I really call Durga a raging gnome? Fuck that looks even worse given recent events. Imma leave that one out.


M42. Nothing bad but this was an oldie but goodie

Jesus christ this is hard to read.

y'all are getting Radio RHK when I have to take a break while reading.

(To the tune of Gangsta's Paradise)

As I parse through the mountain of useless ass posts,
I take a look at the content and realize they're half coasts.
Coz' I've been playin' and GMin' so long,
Even I remember when Y2K was da bomb.
But I ain't never hammered a man that didn't deserve it,
Me be treated like DammDan you know that's unheard of.
You better watch how you're postin', and where you're votin',
Or you and your cases might catch a rope.
I really hate to read but I gotta, tho,
As I do I find so little in these filler posts.
I'm the kinda G that nobody wanna be like,
On my soapbox in the night, tunnelin' folks to the afterlife.

Been spendin' most their lives,
Living in a spammer's paradise.
Been spendin' most their lives,
Living in a spammer's paradise.
Keep spendin' most our lives,
Living in a spammer's paradise.
Keep spendin' most our lives,
Living in a spammer's paradise.

They gotta situation, they got me readin',
I can't play a normal game, I was raised by the rage.
So I gotta be down with the Old Gs,
Too many brain conspiracies in my fever dreams.
I'm a hard tunnelin' fool with conf bias on my side,
Got my notepad open and Pandora on the side.
I'm a hardheaded townie, newb lynchin' player
And my vets are down, so don't rouse my anger, fool.
Death ain't nothin but a wagon away,
I'll make cases or suicide-hammer, what can I say?
I'm on page 23, or maybe was it 24?
The repetition is so damn much I don't even know.

Tell me whyyyy are we, too blind to see,
That Day 1, is so shitty?

Been spendin' most their lives,
Living in a spammer's paradise.
Been spendin' most their lives,
Living in a spammer's paradise.
Keep spendin' most our lives,
Living in a spammer's paradise.
Keep spendin' most our lives,
Living in a spammer's paradise.

The wine and the sus, the sus and the wine,
Post after post, line after line.
Everybody's talkin', but half of them ain't reading,
What's going on in the thread, but I don't know who scum is.
They say I gotta solve, but nobody want to lead,
If was so fuckin' obvious, no one would want to play, see?
I guess they can't, I guess they won't,
I guess they dumb, that's how I know I'm gonna catch a rope, fool.

Been spendin' most their lives,
Living in a spammer's paradise.
Been spendin' most their lives,
Living in a spammer's paradise.
Keep spendin' most our lives,
Living in a spammer's paradise.
Keep spendin' most our lives,
Living in a spammer's paradise.

Tell me whyyyy are we, too blind to see,
That Day 1, is so shitty?
Tell me whyyyy are we, too blind to see,
That Day 1, is so shitty?

Imma stop there for now. I dunno why y'all let me still fuckin play

[brainbomb]

Why are you PR hunting?

I'm scum hunting as far as I know

And you didnt even consider that you might just be hurting town

[kgray]

But maybe I should ask him. @Celaph, how come you weren't pushing back against your wagon more? Why didn't you give your reads when you were on the block? What are your reads?

To answer your first question, the short answer is because I felt hopeless, didn't believe that I would live. The votes against me, at least those that have been explained, were gut/meta reads. Bona because I'm more jovial. You because I'm less confident. I can't push back against something like that in an instant. I convince you by how I play the rest of the game. It doesn't help that I don't have any mechanical info to work with.

I don't have a good answer to your second question. I remember the thought crossing my mind with roughly 5 minutes less, but I didn't get further than I blank message.

In terms of reads:
Likely town: you (kgray) and Bob.
Lean town: Bona, Donny, bb, and ghug. Donny is the person on this list who I remember the least of, but reading his iso he has asked a lot of good questions. This night he has done a better job turning those questions into statements which I like and hope to see more of.
Lean town/don't want to kill yet: Bunny, Damo, and Vecna. I've separated these out because while I lean them town for now, the value of the reasons will fall off later on. Vecna is here because of the value of town Vecna and I think his behavior tonight shows confidence. Bunny and Damo are the town non-VT claims. This gives them some credit, but given the set-up far less than it would in previous games.
Shade town: HR.
Null: Most everyone else. Of people of note, I think Jasnah is worth watching because she has been insightful on some points though her behavior is generally anti-town.
Shade scum: Maniac and Ezio for their poorly justified votes at the end. Jasnah and Damo also fit that description, but I think Jasnah has contributed slightly more than either of them and damo has claimed non-VT.

Why do you townread ghug? Do you townread damo at all or is it only that he claimed non-VT? Do you think Maniac's votes/justifications are unlike what he did as town in the games you've played with him?

[Bonatogether]

That last one is hilarious

[Bonatogether]

Why are you PR hunting?

I'm scum hunting as far as I know

And you didnt even consider that you might just be hurting town

Not really, since you guys looked suspicious to me.

[Bonatogether]

I just thought I'd look over the VCA, and then I noticed that pattern, so I asked about it.

[brainbomb]

kgray is townie enough that regardless if what her role is it should be evident shes actually hunting and discussing the game. I dont typically go after kgray and usually she reads me accurately pretty often. I did sheep her on ghug and rivera. she sheeped me on bunny. we were definetely in each others heads and ears.

theres alot of moments where rhk and I dont vote the same way. I argued heavily hes town but at EOD I was pretty sure celaph was a mistake. I was critical of the celaph push and called it random.

[brainbomb]

I just thought I'd look over the VCA, and then I noticed that pattern, so I asked about it.

bloc voting is not that normal as scum. its pretty surefire way to get rekt.

[Bonatogether]

##unvote

[brainbomb]

dont beat yourself up bona.

[Bonatogether]

dont beat yourself up bona.

:/

[brainbomb]

we got a game to win! lets go bash some nazi skulls