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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#2621 Post by damo666 » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:52 pm

##vote kgray

for not disclosing discard

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#2622 Post by Hellenic Riot » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:53 pm

kgray wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:50 pm
DemonRHK wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:21 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:00 pm


Reason why?
To explain, with current claims I'm 99% all louds left are town.
Saves can be used to clear later if not revealed
It only depends on if HR was lying, right? If we believe his discard claim, then yeah, the loud people are town. Right?
Even if I were lying, you can conclude that any loud visit that isn't me is town :razz:

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#2623 Post by Donny Dude » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:54 pm

##vote emc

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#2624 Post by ghug » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:54 pm

DemonRHK wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:52 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:47 pm
DemonRHK wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:39 pm
This also means all scans aren't going to get fooled. So any of y'all invests have correct (Or flipped if that alien is in game) info
Say that again please? What does this mean?
Holy shit peeps

GF is officially out. Any innocent scans are now trustworthy

UNLESS that alien psychofuck is in play. Which means innos become guiltys.
Ohh "invests" is a plural noun.

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#2625 Post by brainbomb » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:54 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:53 pm
kgray wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:50 pm
DemonRHK wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:21 pm


To explain, with current claims I'm 99% all louds left are town.
Saves can be used to clear later if not revealed
It only depends on if HR was lying, right? If we believe his discard claim, then yeah, the loud people are town. Right?
Even if I were lying, you can conclude that any loud visit that isn't me is town :razz:

##vote emc
unless you role swapped a scum buddy

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#2626 Post by Hellenic Riot » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:54 pm

##Call GM

When a role that thinks it's VT (IE Miller or Tentacled Townie) dies, will its true role get revealed or will it still show as a Vanilla Townie?

Also, the Miller role PM doesn't actually say it scans as mafia on cop reports. Does it scan mafia?

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#2627 Post by Hellenic Riot » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:55 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:54 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:53 pm
kgray wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:50 pm


It only depends on if HR was lying, right? If we believe his discard claim, then yeah, the loud people are town. Right?
Even if I were lying, you can conclude that any loud visit that isn't me is town :razz:

##vote emc
unless you role swapped a scum buddy
If I pulled that off in a game without a scum daychat then you might as well just give me the win now

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#2628 Post by brainbomb » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:57 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:55 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:54 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:53 pm

Even if I were lying, you can conclude that any loud visit that isn't me is town :razz:

##vote emc
unless you role swapped a scum buddy
If I pulled that off in a game without a scum daychat then you might as well just give me the win now
depends on if scum qt has all members listed at game start along with their roles and discards, then you couldve just followed someone elses lead on a role swap to whatever was left. im not saying you masterminded such a plan but someone else could have started the process leaving you with only one selection left

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#2629 Post by Hamilton Brian » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:58 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:52 pm

Well, there's not really anything we can derive out of one RB, but it's worth tracking them through the game both to help us figure out how many RB's there are or aren't in play and also because the scumteams aren't going to easily know what faction is performing the RB's anyway (unless they did it themselves obviously).
What's the best way to this? And if the response is likely to open up something for scum, just give me a hearty Fuck Off, Brian!

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#2630 Post by kgray » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:00 am

brainbomb wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:32 pm
in the absence of an extra kill we may have to assume that the sk is who bozo was voting
Uh no. We're not assuming this lol

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#2631 Post by Hamilton Brian » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:03 am

I was following some of the prior thinking around EMC, and I'll revisit it. However, is there a tl;dr summary I can follow? In the meantime my goggles will be focused on posts and votes.

We go back to in-person school on Monday so I think HB and my missus are going to indulge in some shroom chocolate. Just a tickle for the brain.

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#2632 Post by Hamilton Brian » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:06 am

What the actual Eff, EMC! I glossed over this gem yesterday:

"Grammar running away like filthy cash in Vegas, so I am off before I become next HB."

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#2633 Post by DemonRHK » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:08 am

Question:

Did anyone lose their voting ability today?

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#2634 Post by kgray » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:10 am

damo666 wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:40 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:38 pm
damo666 wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:18 pm
So no Mafia GF in the game
Obvious that bozo had no reason to lie, unless in some crazy scheme of his he was trying to pull the MF out. But that was someone else's tinfoil hat conspiracy.

RIP Bozo. If there's someone you want in on the solving, I think it's them.

When I first played and was scum, Bozo was on me from the beginning. He was my first choice for a NK. Assuming the scum team (and this was only a mafia hit, right? I need to go re-read the effing alien roles again) is more seasoned, they might steer away from the "Get the person that's on us" mentality.

But let's go see who Bozo was getting close to anyway.
HB not an alien then lol
Why?

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#2635 Post by Hamilton Brian » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:13 am

kgray wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:10 am

Why?
This quote, "Assuming the scum team (and this was only a mafia hit, right? I need to go re-read the effing alien roles again) is more seasoned..."

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#2636 Post by Hamilton Brian » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:14 am

In other words, Brian inadvertently slipped, and it wasn't calculated.

But now I wonder if Damo is alien.

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#2637 Post by kgray » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:15 am

damo666 wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:52 pm
##vote kgray

for not disclosing discard
Why do you care about this now all of a sudden?

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#2638 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:15 am

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:54 pm
##Call GM

When a role that thinks it's VT (IE Miller or Tentacled Townie) dies, will its true role get revealed or will it still show as a Vanilla Townie?

Also, the Miller role PM doesn't actually say it scans as mafia on cop reports. Does it scan mafia?
Neither the Miller role or the Tentacled Townie role in this setup is a Death Miller. I am not that much of a bastard. They flip accurately, as their true Miller/Tentacled role, if killed.

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#2639 Post by kgray » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:16 am

brainbomb wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:57 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:55 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:54 pm


unless you role swapped a scum buddy
If I pulled that off in a game without a scum daychat then you might as well just give me the win now
depends on if scum qt has all members listed at game start along with their roles and discards, then you couldve just followed someone elses lead on a role swap to whatever was left. im not saying you masterminded such a plan but someone else could have started the process leaving you with only one selection left
That seems like a great way for scum to auto-lose after one of them gets killed.

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Re: MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

#2640 Post by kgray » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:18 am

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:13 am
kgray wrote:
Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:10 am

Why?
This quote, "Assuming the scum team (and this was only a mafia hit, right? I need to go re-read the effing alien roles again) is more seasoned..."
How is this a slip? Don't aliens have one kill?

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