MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[BobMcBob]

If y'all want to ask questions while I can answer them, they need to be soon.

Hmm, okay. Top scumread and top townread. Who and why? Broad question but might as well ask since you haven't given any lately.

[BobMcBob]

it just looks perceptually flawed to say “any townie should want x”, and its an argument for keeping some guy around who isnt exactly ferocious or penetrating scums defenses

Isn't that kinda basically what you were doing with demon though?

[BobMcBob]

it just looks perceptually flawed to say “any townie should want x”, and its an argument for keeping some guy around who isnt exactly ferocious or penetrating scums defenses

This.

It’s like my 7 year old explaining to me that there are unbeatable strategies in among us and various board games and card games.

Okay. Bunny is doing his "prop up the new player and then dismiss them" schtick. Every time I've noticed this, he's been scum.

What exactly is this thing of which you speak? It didn't seem particularly like a dismissal of the player to me. Nor did it seem particularly like propping them up. What exactly do you mean by these two actions?

[BobMcBob]

I now have finally read the whole thread. I'll come back soon with some hopefully more educated thoughts on EoD as well as probably a bunny reread.

[brainbomb]

In answer to your question bob I rely on instincts which you can dumb down as just gut.As a game progresses I get much more analytical and use rereads heavily. I dont really do it as scum, I tend to not go deep into theoreticals as scum.

as for RHK I dont think my answer would give you any of what you seek

[brainbomb]

there is not enough vca and nk to look at yet to actually make a case. were just reliant on activity or lack of activty and perceived nervousness as our guide so far.

[BobMcBob]

In answer to your question bob I rely on instincts which you can dumb down as just gut.As a game progresses I get much more analytical and use rereads heavily. I dont really do it as scum, I tend to not go deep into theoreticals as scum.

as for RHK I dont think my answer would give you any of what you seek

Nor does this response. Give me a reason, any reason. There's got to be something setting your gut in a certain direction. If not, why defend him so adamantly?

[brainbomb]

I nightkilled him last game. talked my fellow scum into killing him because he was laying low and acting like a PR would. he was VT. My logic here is that RHK is town for being up front and active, voting a high profile player like ghug, trying to understand the setup. Ive been in alot of games with DemonRHK. Ill stake my reputation on that hes town here

[brainbomb]

I cant talk about anything else but just trust me

[brainbomb]

Having just been scum vs RHK you would think people would recognize that

[BobMcBob]

I... could not be bothered doing a full reread of bunny. Too many posts. I read about half of it and skimmed the rest. Turns out I agree with what bb and kgray and maybe ghug said, most of his posts were largely inconsequential, and didn't really exhibit any townie qualities. I still think he had some decent posts though, and there wasn't anything that seemed off really. I'd townlean him naturally. This is however coming from a place of not actually including his meta in my read, because I seem to have forgotten it myself. Other people have said this seems more like standard scum!bunny behaviour though, so I'm not so sure. His anger tonight felt slightly off, especially compared to angry bb or the way I tend to do angry rants. Maybe that's the way he does anger posts though, but it doesn't sit quite right at the moment.

[brainbomb]

you wanted to discuss this and youre just gonna leave

[brainbomb]

ok so yea do you understand why my anger was about me being ridiculed vs bunny got mad because we tried to hero elim him forcing him to claim what he got rid of.

in my case someone said im the most toxic anti town player on webdip which is pretty close to being a bigoted attack on me

[brainbomb]

bunny was mad that we tried to swing the elim his way. and he said something in there about me not being as good as durga, and even durga couldnt carry town to a win. None of that felt like town bunny to me, it felt like taunting us to dare to try it

[brainbomb]

I guess durga caught 2 scum by tracking and win town mvp in a game town lost to chaqa anyway. and bunny was on scums team in that ?

[brainbomb]

It seems strange that bunny would be salty about getting caught in that game, especially knowing that his team won and towns effort was ultimately a fail. If anything that game would have illustrated that early town luck leads to loss, but early town fails sometimes crack the case. maybe he just doesnt wanna be martyr so soon

[BobMcBob]

you wanted to discuss this and youre just gonna leave

Chill bro, I'd been reading bunny for the last 15 minutes and decided to post my thoughts. Then I just went and reread celaph who I'd completely overlooked so far.

[Bonatogether]

Ezio is a 180 from bona
On Macca, the vote for bunny just seems based off one thing, I would like to see more of a case.
I do have a townread on bob based off posts.
Bozo seems to be questioning people now and I hope to see more like his last post. Lfischl voting no kill seems odd from an unvote. Why did he do that?

lfischl seems really weird to me. His actions are lining up with his scum actions from another game too, so I think he might be scum with macca.

Why with macca in particular? Was there any reason you paired these two?

Neither had mentioned each other, and both were exhibiting similar behavior of lurking and not really adding much.

[BobMcBob]

ok so yea do you understand why my anger was about me being ridiculed vs bunny got mad because we tried to hero elim him forcing him to claim what he got rid of.

in my case someone said im the most toxic anti town player on webdip which is pretty close to being a bigoted attack on me

I don't care about ezio at the moment, I'm focussing on bunny and his angry posts. I used you as an example because you also make angry posts, which felt more sincere. Honestly I have little clue what you're babbling about, your coherence is out the window right now.

[Bonatogether]

Bona is #1 on my shit list for sure, whether or not he's a town role, he's by far the single greatest impediment to town getting anything of use done so far. Take out the garbage Bona

Also, I strongly disagree with this take (which Bunny also had). Yeah, it wasn't good. It was frustrating and could have been horrible. He should absolutely not do it again. But it worked out okay, and focusing on blaming him for this isn't productive.

And I disagree with your take. Bona play have been extremely anti-town and he refuses to listen or acknowledge this is a team game (if he is town) and I fully understand Bunny indignation.

I already apologized and said I'm not going to do it again.