MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[brainbomb]

the other dead giveaway is emc not even speculating on my align or any of my posts

[kgray]

Well, missed EOD. I thought it was later.

I kind of understand why I was a wagon and also why lfischl was a wagon. Don't get why he didn't claim his role. We now know for sure Alien lover is out of play. Not much.

Was that Bunny claim real?

I need to read EOD but probably not tonight.

See you.

Why do you think you were a wagon?

Because I made very little effort D1 and some of the effort I tried was useless (the Macca thing).

I confess that the feeling I will be NKed early again after this discard claim thing is also making me avoid dispending too much energy on D1.

Huh. I was not under the impression you put any effort at all into your Macca read

[kgray]

Why did he/she/it not claim?

Dude, just say "they"

[brainbomb]

Think im ready for emc to die.
yes.
settled. hes scum in both of my circles so it feels best

[kgray]

One of the things that stand out are the amount of single voters at eod which there were more of I think.
This consolidation seemed pretty quick and at some point before eod there was something like 10 different votes midday.
These voters singled out are bb, bozo, vecna, Macca, and rdr. It seems like a lot of single votes which I am suspicious of.

Now macca vecna and rdr were absent for the eod. Bozo less so but brain was around for eod.
Brain, why did you not move your vote from Bunny when it was clear he was not a viable wagon?
You stated earlier tonight at the excitement of there being a tie so you were around.

Brain said he had an interview near EOD and he stopped posting with 17 minutes left. Bunny was absolutely a viable wagon at that time, he was tied for the lead.

[brainbomb]

questions? concerns? my wife is wondering why im in the kitchen.

[brainbomb]

One of the things that stand out are the amount of single voters at eod which there were more of I think.
This consolidation seemed pretty quick and at some point before eod there was something like 10 different votes midday.
These voters singled out are bb, bozo, vecna, Macca, and rdr. It seems like a lot of single votes which I am suspicious of.

Now macca vecna and rdr were absent for the eod. Bozo less so but brain was around for eod.
Brain, why did you not move your vote from Bunny when it was clear he was not a viable wagon?
You stated earlier tonight at the excitement of there being a tie so you were around.

Brain said he had an interview near EOD and he stopped posting with 17 minutes left. Bunny was absolutely a viable wagon at that time, he was tied for the lead.

was also driving while in a phone interview. I got offered an art show this sunday and I get paid to teach a chalk pastel class now mar 14. so the call was a success

[Bonatogether]

questions? concerns? my wife is wondering why im in the kitchen.

Why *are* you in the kitchen?

[brainbomb]

questions? concerns? my wife is wondering why im in the kitchen.

Why *are* you in the kitchen?

eating a bagel because my attempt to make donuts failed terribly

[Bonatogether]

questions? concerns? my wife is wondering why im in the kitchen.

Why *are* you in the kitchen?

eating a bagel because my attempt to make donuts failed terribly

Ok.

[celaph]

If celaph is town. Can you learn anything? What if RDR is town instead ?

I think that ghug and HR look decent for their EoD votes. HR slightly less because his vote was to tie it, but I believe him when he says that his intention was otherwise.

I want to hear more from the people who joined either wagon late and had no comments on them earlier. Why did Damo, Ezio, Maniac, and Jasnah end up voting for the people that they did?

What specifically about ghug's and HR's votes makes them look good?

The only scum I've seen the past two games move close to deadlines in TvT situations is Jamie who did it both D1 M63 and D2 M62. In the case of ghug specifically, I think it also shows more thought and concern than I was seeing earlier in the day. He cared about the outcome of that vote in a way that I think scum ghug was less likely to do.

[kgray]

That is the group to vig kill among
and HR, and Bunny are very likely maf together based on the EOD and how HR tried to claim a maf cop role to lessen Bunnys claim reax.

Yeah it did seem like HR's discard claim came out of the blue.

I guess if hes town then I could see HR feeling safer claiming he discarded a maf PR right after bunny, like “well shit I may as well claim mine now too, why wait”?

and I can actually see that being a possibility

But why would he do that? HR is pretty even-headed, I don't think he just outs information for no reason. Why does he do it in that moment, when he hadn't even placed a vote yet?

[kgray]

Now macca vecna and rdr were absent for the eod. Bozo less so but brain was around for eod.
Brain, why did you not move your vote from Bunny when it was clear he was not a viable wagon?
You stated earlier tonight at the excitement of there being a tie so you were around.

Brain said he had an interview near EOD and he stopped posting with 17 minutes left. Bunny was absolutely a viable wagon at that time, he was tied for the lead.

was also driving while in a phone interview. I got offered an art show this sunday and I get paid to teach a chalk pastel class now mar 14. so the call was a success

Congrats! I didn't know you were an artist.

[kgray]

I think that ghug and HR look decent for their EoD votes. HR slightly less because his vote was to tie it, but I believe him when he says that his intention was otherwise.

I want to hear more from the people who joined either wagon late and had no comments on them earlier. Why did Damo, Ezio, Maniac, and Jasnah end up voting for the people that they did?

What specifically about ghug's and HR's votes makes them look good?

The only scum I've seen the past two games move close to deadlines in TvT situations is Jamie who did it both D1 M63 and D2 M62. In the case of ghug specifically, I think it also shows more thought and concern than I was seeing earlier in the day. He cared about the outcome of that vote in a way that I think scum ghug was less likely to do.

What do you mean, ghug cared about the outcome of the vote? You think he had a strong preference of who was killed?

[Ezio]

Glad to know

I think I had a oh shit moment that im ignoring far less engaged ppl like vecna, emc and ezio.

Vecna is weird, and emc never posts much anyways. I'm happy ezio wasn't around to tie it, though.

I was around to tie it. There was too much chaos though. I didn't know how all the votes stood. I wish I'd known and could switch my vote over to have forced the tie.

I don't think town losing a PR with a cop scan is a good result day 1. I'm shocked you prefer this.

[Ezio]

I think that ghug and HR look decent for their EoD votes. HR slightly less because his vote was to tie it, but I believe him when he says that his intention was otherwise.

I want to hear more from the people who joined either wagon late and had no comments on them earlier. Why did Damo, Ezio, Maniac, and Jasnah end up voting for the people that they did?

What specifically about ghug's and HR's votes makes them look good?

The only scum I've seen the past two games move close to deadlines in TvT situations is Jamie who did it both D1 M63 and D2 M62. In the case of ghug specifically, I think it also shows more thought and concern than I was seeing earlier in the day. He cared about the outcome of that vote in a way that I think scum ghug was less likely to do.

I've seen scum do tons of this on d1 in town v town. What's their incentive to not?

[Bonatogether]

I think I had a oh shit moment that im ignoring far less engaged ppl like vecna, emc and ezio.

Vecna is weird, and emc never posts much anyways. I'm happy ezio wasn't around to tie it, though.

I was around to tie it. There was too much chaos though. I didn't know how all the votes stood. I wish I'd known and could switch my vote over to have forced the tie.

I don't think town losing a PR with a cop scan is a good result day 1. I'm shocked you prefer this.

We didn't know because he didn't claim, and where do I say I prefer this?

[Ezio]

Vecna is weird, and emc never posts much anyways. I'm happy ezio wasn't around to tie it, though.

I was around to tie it. There was too much chaos though. I didn't know how all the votes stood. I wish I'd known and could switch my vote over to have forced the tie.

I don't think town losing a PR with a cop scan is a good result day 1. I'm shocked you prefer this.

We didn't know because he didn't claim, and where do I say I prefer this?

When you say you are happy I wasn't around to tie it.

By saying you are happy I didn't do something, doesn't that mean you prefer what happened without my (potential) interference? What else could that possibly mean?

What did you mean?

[Bonatogether]

I was around to tie it. There was too much chaos though. I didn't know how all the votes stood. I wish I'd known and could switch my vote over to have forced the tie.

I don't think town losing a PR with a cop scan is a good result day 1. I'm shocked you prefer this.

We didn't know because he didn't claim, and where do I say I prefer this?

When you say you are happy I wasn't around to tie it.

By saying you are happy I didn't do something, doesn't that mean you prefer what happened without my (potential) interference? What else could that possibly mean?

What did you mean?

No kill is a worse result since we get no information from town. We only get the info that scum give us by their choice of kill and subsequent flip.

[Ezio]

We didn't know because he didn't claim, and where do I say I prefer this?

When you say you are happy I wasn't around to tie it.

By saying you are happy I didn't do something, doesn't that mean you prefer what happened without my (potential) interference? What else could that possibly mean?

What did you mean?

No kill is a worse result since we get no information from town. We only get the info that scum give us by their choice of kill and subsequent flip.

Are you fucking kidding me?

This guy had a scan, a doctor save, and a roleblock. Scum get to kill tonight anyways. You're just saying "well, I sure am glad we have information from a whole bunch of bullshit d1 at the cost of a PR. At least we got the ball rolling killing our PR's so scum don't have to".

I understand in the dark saying information is sometimes more valuable and why most people argue that d1 kills are good. Their arguments fall apart once it's certain you are killing town, and even moreso once you're killing town PR.