MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[kgray]

I should say though that voting bozo of the back of him discarding mafia GF is poor town play. If he has drawn a super value non-mafia card he will be NK soon enough. If he is still alive D3/D4 then he might make a good DK but not now.

I don't understand this. How would scum know if he drew a super value non-mafia card regardless of whether he's being honest about discarding GF?

But yes, killing him because he claims to have discarded GF is dumb.

there's a difference between voting and killing

So you want to vote for bozo but you don't want him to be the daykill?

[bozotheclown]

The most significant thing to have happened so far (and by a wide marģin) is Bozo claiming to have discarded Mafia GF.

If he is telling the truth he probably either has a valuable town role, a super valuable alien role or he fancied SK. Almost certainly not a weaker Mafia role.

He could be lying and gambling that GF wasn't dealt but with a probability of only 26/68 this is an unlikely Bozo type gambit.

I think the most likely reason for Bozo to claim to have discarded Mafia GF is that he actually RETAINED Mafia GF.

##vote Bozo

Just placeholding this reply until I see if Bozo replied to this or not. It's a hell of a hypothesis.

Seeing Macca's follow up to this...the question I was wondering is if this puts Damo and Macca as scum teammates? Probably not; scum wouldn't be that bold to piggyback on one wagon when there's other possibilities. Should it carry through then they'd be suspect together.

My response is that damo is incorrect, the most likely reason for me to have claimed to have discarded the Mafia GF is that I discarded the Mafia GF.

[Maniac]

This is actually quite interesting, and it goes with his rather strange (at least to me) opening. I think I'll join you

##VOTE bozo

@Damo - maybe bozo doesn’t have to gamble on the Mafia GF not being dealt. If he has a mafia role and know someone else has picked Mafia GF.

I’m heavily town reading Damo for not realising mafia bozo would know who his scum mates are.

Would he know their roles?

I've asked the GMs this question. If GMs give scum players the QT link and list the players and their roles then scumBozo would know the roles. As I've said elsewhere if ScumBozo is say mafia goon and knows there is a mafia GF he can claim mafia GF discard, but if we kill mafia GF it exposes Bozo as i liar so very risky. For this reason I'm town/Alien/SK reading Bozo.

[bozotheclown]

would you?

Would you?

I would

I believe this is true, but I am not sure you had that option.

[damo666]

I hard veto any attempt to kill demon rhk. pick somebody else

You have no such right.

[brainbomb]

comparing me to Despotic president who delusionally thinks he won an election. Yea. I definetely was claiming to be the best webdip player ever

[ghug]

Would you?

I would

I believe this is true, but I am not sure you had that option.

You don't think I'd take scum because the expectation is that I wouldn't?

[brainbomb]

I hard veto any attempt to kill demon rhk. pick somebody else

You have no such right.

I do and I am only just beginning a flex

[Hamilton Brian]

I have a physio appt at 4:45EST this afternoon so I need to make sure my vote is in.

##VOTE lfischl seems like a reasonable spot to post. That's some glaring stuff in those posts.

What glaring stuff do you find scum-indicative?

in this post, they were claiming Vecna claimed Demon was scum. Something so easily verifiable, either a mistake, and error, or just haphazard play.
How scum-Indicative is it? I don't really know. I do know that errors like that have sent me to the block.

[brainbomb]

ghug would be way more likely to turn down a scum role for a sk tho

[kgray]

I have a physio appt at 4:45EST this afternoon so I need to make sure my vote is in.

##VOTE lfischl seems like a reasonable spot to post. That's some glaring stuff in those posts.

What glaring stuff do you find scum-indicative?

in this post, they were claiming Vecna claimed Demon was scum. Something so easily verifiable, either a mistake, and error, or just haphazard play.
How scum-Indicative is it? I don't really know. I do know that errors like that have sent me to the block.

Errors you made when you were town?

[Hellenic Riot]

ghug would be way more likely to turn down a scum role for a sk tho

ghug is notorious for hating third parties; why do you think he'd willingly want to be one?

[bozotheclown]

@Damo - maybe bozo doesn’t have to gamble on the Mafia GF not being dealt. If he has a mafia role and know someone else has picked Mafia GF.

I’m heavily town reading Damo for not realising mafia bozo would know who his scum mates are.

Would he know their roles?

I've asked the GMs this question. If GMs give scum players the QT link and list the players and their roles then scumBozo would know the roles. As I've said elsewhere if ScumBozo is say mafia goon and knows there is a mafia GF he can claim mafia GF discard, but if we kill mafia GF it exposes Bozo as i liar so very risky. For this reason I'm town/Alien/SK reading Bozo.

I do not see why what damo was speculating would require me not to know the other mafia roles.

[ghug]

ghug would be way more likely to turn down a scum role for a sk tho

Yes, I'd rather be SK than mafia, I think.

Idk about alien because I haven't read any roles, but it sounds like they're underpowered and trolly, and I like winning slightly more than I like trolling.

[brainbomb]

ghug would be way more likely to turn down a scum role for a sk tho

ghug is notorious for hating third parties; why do you think he'd willingly want to be one?

I think he would enjoy the freedom to kill at random

[damo666]

ghug has been very shallow this game using mostly snarky one liners which lack any substance

It's day 1. What else is there to do?
##Vote nolynch.

YAy

[ghug]

ghug would be way more likely to turn down a scum role for a sk tho

ghug is notorious for hating third parties; why do you think he'd willingly want to be one?

I think he would enjoy the freedom to kill at random

I'd play the whole game as if I were a townie and then use a nightkill to surprise win when y'all think I don't exist.

[Hamilton Brian]

What glaring stuff do you find scum-indicative?

in this post, they were claiming Vecna claimed Demon was scum. Something so easily verifiable, either a mistake, and error, or just haphazard play.
How scum-Indicative is it? I don't really know. I do know that errors like that have sent me to the block.

Errors you made when you were town?

Yeah; inconsistencies, bad memory leading to posting something patently untrue, etc.

[kgray]

ghug would be way more likely to turn down a scum role for a sk tho

Yes, I'd rather be SK than mafia, I think.

Idk about alien because I haven't read any roles, but it sounds like they're underpowered and trolly, and I like winning slightly more than I like trolling.

Ooh, and you discarded a mafia goon? SK!ghug confirmed.

[brainbomb]

ghug is notorious for hating third parties; why do you think he'd willingly want to be one?

I think he would enjoy the freedom to kill at random

I'd play the whole game as if I were a townie and then use a nightkill to surprise win when y'all think I don't exist.

I completely believe youd be excited to choose sk over goon you likely wouldnt take alien over goon so I agree. you do relish being town the same way durga does