MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[bozotheclown]

Youre a good rider maniac, and we love to carry you

Are you willing to say what you discarded, either town/not town, town/mafia/alien/SK, or the exact role?

[bozotheclown]

@bob - my modus operandi seems to be get DK early because I always look scummy, get fear NK if I evade a daykill, figure out the puzzle just before I get killed if I reach the mid game but fail to convince anyone. I never reach the end game. My stats are pretty good, my play is terrible.

Are you willing to say what you discarded, either town/not town, town/mafia/alien/SK, or the exact role?

[Vecna]

oh, bozo is doing a discard thing. what an utterly ridiculous thing to do. Let me just partake because it is hilarious.

Jamiet chose my role for me since I was too late in replying. He chose a very strong role for me and then discarded my VT thingy

[BunnyGo]

Who do you scumread?

DemonRHK. You, I can't remember why.

Ambivalent on kgray and BunnyGo. I don't think either should be a strong candidate for D1 because they post, but could see them eventually being shown as scum who posts a lot rather than town who posts a lot

Quantity of posts is NAI for kgray and me. You have to listen to what our motivations are. I think someone good at that could read through our scum games and get a bead on either of us.

[dargorygel]

Mulder and Scully waited a moment. Maybe the phone call meant nothing. But before either could concoct a question to ask the other, the door opened.

A nurse entered the room. Mulder knew it was a nurse by the uniform. No one would purposefully wear that outfit unless it was required.

Mulder noticed that Dana’s face lost expression.

Like her mind was freezing. Like when you expect chocolate, but taste vanilla. It isn’t bad. Just not expected.

Vote Count 1.8
Macca573 (3) Donny Dude, Bunnygo, brainbomb
lfischl (2) ghug, kgray
bozotheclown (2) damo666, Macca573
ghug (1) vecna
brainbomb (1) Maniac
DemonRHK (1) jasnah
kgray (1) Bonatogether
Maniac (1) rdrivera2005

Unvote (2) DemonRHK, lfischl

Macca’s Most Maligned at the Moment

Not voted yet: bob, bozo, celaph, emc, ezio, Hamilton Brian, Hellenic Riot,

Way Too Quiet: Ezio

Around 10 hours and 9 Minutes left until the bell rings.

[bozotheclown]

Thank you for letting me know that bozo's answer was inaccurate by .034(ish) of a percent, I am sure this information will come in handy.

I think damo was pointing out I made a mistake in what I wrote, it should be (26/68)*(25/67) , which is what I calculated to get 14.3%.

Based on this, the most likely number of players who did not have a town choice is 3.

It’s not an independent calculation. The number of players with no choice is dependent on the other players with no choice. I have no coffee in me and little sleep. But I believe this may actually matter.

I think it is safe to say the most likely number is 3, I am not saying anything about the probability of it being 3, except that the probability is greater than for any other number.

[bozotheclown]

oh, bozo is doing a discard thing. what an utterly ridiculous thing to do. Let me just partake because it is hilarious.

Jamiet chose my role for me since I was too late in replying. He chose a very strong role for me and then discarded my VT thingy

If you did not reply, your role was chosen randomly between your 2 roles.

[Vecna]

nah, im quite sure my role was chosen for entertainment's sake

[BunnyGo]

GAH!

Nope...nope nope nope nope...going to sleep. This is crazy now...

So you agree now?

Nope...nope nope nope nope...I need to stop engaging with this discussion.

Why are you copying me? If you’re trying to pocket me after the last two posts. It was working after the first, but now I’m worried.

[Vecna]

this is a closed setup right?

[bozotheclown]

nah, im quite sure my role was chosen for entertainment's sake

Are you the SK?

[BunnyGo]

I really like when Kgray says the things I want to say in a better way.

Oh hi rivera, how are you today lol.

I am fine. I am on vacation, so theoretically I have more time to play, but I have been constantly 10 pages behind because thecsun is shinning I have better things to do than staying on my phone playing Mafia.

And how are you?

Oooh. Summer vacation! Enjoy!

[bozotheclown]

this is a closed setup right?

It is "semi-open" according to the description.

[Vecna]

ah ok, then ill stop talking

[bozotheclown]

Discard claims:

Options are stating a specific role, town/not town, town/mafia/alien, or choosing not to answer.

Bob: not town
Bonatogether: Mafia Goon
bozo: Mafia GF
brainbomb: Mafia Goon
BunnyGo: not town
​celaph: Mafia Goon
damo: VT
DemonRHK: town
Donny: town
emc: town
Ezio:
ghug: Mafia Goon
Hamilton: chooses not to answer
HR:
jasnah: Mafia Lover
kgray: chooses not to answer
lfischl: Alien
Macca:
Mania​c:
rdrivera: chooses not to answer
Vecna: VT

[Vecna]

I really dont feel like tryharding yet. Oh the dilemma

[BobMcBob]

Right, so I went back through all his recent games. The recent town games had a lot of slips. And then needed it spelled out how they were even slips.

The scum games had not a lot. And something weird about hammering jamie d1 while he slept? It was weird and jokey.

I remember him making that hammer joke (wasn't in the game though I believe). I've talked to them during basically all the games they've played and as town they seem very legitimately confused (although I remember less about their town games than about how they respond as scum), and in scum games they often get called out for something that they thought was townie or wasn't remotely scum motivated and get very confused about it. I can't remember basically any of their posts (except for saying hi like 5 times) so I'm not sure what this is yet.

*they/them

Yeah, that. I used them correctly at least 10 times so far, just slipped here.

[BobMcBob]

So you agree now?

Nope...nope nope nope nope...I need to stop engaging with this discussion.

Why are you copying me? If you’re trying to pocket me after the last two posts. It was working after the first, but now I’m worried.

Had you *seen* his many of my reply posts had just been about this discussion. I had way over engaged in it after the fact. I was simply saying that no you didn't agree in away that mimicked you as a joke. (What was the other post by the way? Can't remember it)

[BunnyGo]

The most significant thing to have happened so far (and by a wide marģin) is Bozo claiming to have discarded Mafia GF.

If he is telling the truth he probably either has a valuable town role, a super valuable alien role or he fancied SK. Almost certainly not a weaker Mafia role.

He could be lying and gambling that GF wasn't dealt but with a probability of only 26/68 this is an unlikely Bozo type gambit.

I think the most likely reason for Bozo to claim to have discarded Mafia GF is that he actually RETAINED Mafia GF.

##vote Bozo

This is actually quite interesting, and it goes with his rather strange (at least to me) opening. I think I'll join you

##VOTE bozo

@Damo - maybe bozo doesn’t have to gamble on the Mafia GF not being dealt. If he has a mafia role and know someone else has picked Mafia GF.

I’m heavily town reading Damo for not realising mafia bozo would know who his scum mates are.

This is a really good point.

Also, @damo what about bozo’s scum game makes you think he would make a short term play like this to get to KiLo?

[BunnyGo]

Town damo: Oh, I had two PR options in my role. I BET THAT MEANS THE ENTIRE GAME THAT HAS 1 PR OPTION MUST HAVE 2 OPTIONS

^ unlikely scenario

Scum Damo: Oh, ive been debating in scumchat with my hoodlums. We all had multiple strong options to choose, but we wanted scum obviously.

^ would result in him knowing that scum all had interesting choices, and making that post.

##vote Damo

nice scum-logic-slip bro

Townslip vecna?