MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[Donny Dude]

Discard claims:

Options are stating a specific role, town/not town, town/mafia/alien, or choosing not to answer.

Bob: not town
Bonatogether: Mafia Goon
bozo: Mafia GF
brainbomb: Mafia Goon
BunnyGo: not town
​celaph: Mafia Goon
damo: VT
DemonRHK:
Donny:town
emc: town
Ezio: MIA
ghug: Mafia Goon
Hamilton:
HR:
jasnah: Mafia Lover
kgray: chooses not to answer
lfischl: Alien
Macca:
Mania​c:
rdrivera: chooses not to answer
Vecna:

[bozotheclown]

Bozo, can you please start doing something other than bookkeeping the discard claims? Push a little, question a little (not about discards), give some of your feelings about people. Stop hiding behind a very basic mechs operation.

Why do you think I have not done this already?

[BobMcBob]

Is it just me or is anyone else getting confused of who's who in the people with donator stars? I feel like I just see a star and ignore the name and suddenly I've confused HR and rdr.

[BobMcBob]

Bozo, can you please start doing something other than bookkeeping the discard claims? Push a little, question a little (not about discards), give some of your feelings about people. Stop hiding behind a very basic mechs operation.

Why do you think I have not done this already?

Because you like to hide behind mechs for the entirety of D1 whenever you play a game? Use your gut, basically no information is coming out of this massclaim. You're not even pushing it in this game.

[BobMcBob]

Psh Turkey's great!

It’s good until you get it every single game and when you don’t get it you get Austria.

Austria's great too!

Do you just adore every country by any chance? (Also having played a statistically improbable percentage of my games as Turkey, I must say I rather like it. Even Austria can be quite fun, except in gunboat I hate it.)

[celaph]

Celaph, Why does it matter that bb to you is more likely to be one type of role than another?

I'm confused by your question. Perhaps you can clarify what you mean by type of role?

[jasnah]

Caught up reading.

For now I like Bob and Bona. I kind of like emc. He's barely written anything but I think that given the opportunity he would pick a town role, and at risk of doing too much mechs there's a pretty high chance of drawing at least one town card.

Would like to hear from Macca before EOD. I guess it's a somewhat better wagon than ghug but I'm not in love with it either.

[BobMcBob]

can someone defend how damo has played and say its towny for him?

It hasn't seemed too bad from someone who's completely forgotten his meta, but it doesn't have much going for it.

[bozotheclown]

Bozo, can you please start doing something other than bookkeeping the discard claims? Push a little, question a little (not about discards), give some of your feelings about people. Stop hiding behind a very basic mechs operation.

Why do you think I have not done this already?

Because you like to hide behind mechs for the entirety of D1 whenever you play a game? Use your gut, basically no information is coming out of this massclaim. You're not even pushing it in this game.

Why do you characterize it as hiding?

I disagree, I think there results so far have been informative.

[Donny Dude]

Caught up reading.

For now I like Bob and Bona. I kind of like emc. He's barely written anything but I think that given the opportunity he would pick a town role, and at risk of doing too much mechs there's a pretty high chance of drawing at least one town card.

Would like to hear from Macca before EOD. I guess it's a somewhat better wagon than ghug but I'm not in love with it either.

Who do you scumread?

[Donny Dude]

Celaph, Why does it matter that bb to you is more likely to be one type of role than another?

I'm confused by your question. Perhaps you can clarify what you mean by type of role?

vt versus pr.

[jasnah]

Because you like to hide behind mechs for the entirety of D1 whenever you play a game? Use your gut, basically no information is coming out of this massclaim. You're not even pushing it in this game.

I like the bozo posts; they're providing lots of information clearly aggregated in one place. Regardless of whether he's town or not. People have been making reads from them or interactions generated by them as well.

[BobMcBob]

Alright, looking in for a good game.

I'll be playing in between paying attention in class, so expect more reading than posting (not that I post a lot anyway).

I would like to start with 2 remainders. You can check my earlier games if you would like to verify these.

1. I will not be on at EOD, probably ever. Do not read into this, I have just arrived to school at that time (or if it's the weekend, I'm probably asleep).

2. My reads are about as good as chance and almost always based on vibes. You can try to ask for more detail on one, it may or may not come.

Best of luck to my team! (i.e. Town Team)

Im not bothered by the inactivity pledge im curious why macca oversells it on being town, and the whole pre defending all reads as vibes

To be fair, vibe reads is something they have legitimately done in every game they've played, I would know. I've heard all about them being completely lost on reads many times now. And the town team comment is something I could see coming from them as any alignment.

[bozotheclown]

Discard claims:

Options are stating a specific role, town/not town, town/mafia/alien, or choosing not to answer.

Bob: not town
Bonatogether: Mafia Goon
bozo: Mafia GF
brainbomb: Mafia Goon
BunnyGo: not town
​celaph: Mafia Goon
damo: VT
DemonRHK:
Donny: town
emc: town
Ezio:
ghug: Mafia Goon
Hamilton: chooses not to answer
HR:
jasnah: Mafia Lover
kgray: chooses not to answer
lfischl: Alien
Macca:
Mania​c:
rdrivera: chooses not to answer
Vecna:

[Donny Dude]

Bozo, can you please start doing something other than bookkeeping the discard claims? Push a little, question a little (not about discards), give some of your feelings about people. Stop hiding behind a very basic mechs operation.

Why do you think I have not done this already?

Because you like to hide behind mechs for the entirety of D1 whenever you play a game? Use your gut, basically no information is coming out of this massclaim. You're not even pushing it in this game.

Actually, although accurate, is not the full truth I think. Although with this being the caveat that my recent games have been with scum Bozo, some parts may apply to his town game also. Bozo sucks at d1s. And the reason for that is that he is not the type of player who works in the flow, he also does not read the present well. He works based on the past and theory. As an engineer, I believe, he has to have a solution and or a framework to work around. Mechs are solution as d1 that evidence is being produced and a way to get data. Later on it can built as a solution for bozo. He cannot build something out of nothing, but there has to an end goal. As scum, that issue pops up as he has the solution and cannot justify strongly certain threads as he has to fake that solution. In the end, it results in lack of evolution of reads and has to rely on people who already look scummy.
That is my take on bozo.

[BobMcBob]

Why do you think I have not done this already?

Because you like to hide behind mechs for the entirety of D1 whenever you play a game? Use your gut, basically no information is coming out of this massclaim. You're not even pushing it in this game.

Why do you characterize it as hiding?

I disagree, I think there results so far have been informative.

Mmmmm? Please inform us then, or do something else in the meantime. I highly doubt it's taking all your mental energy to bookkeep that list. You haven't done much of note other than it so far, hence hiding. I'm sure you'll come out tonight with something, but so far you have nothing.

[jasnah]

Who do you scumread?

DemonRHK. You, I can't remember why.

Ambivalent on kgray and BunnyGo. I don't think either should be a strong candidate for D1 because they post, but could see them eventually being shown as scum who posts a lot rather than town who posts a lot

[Donny Dude]

Who do you scumread?

DemonRHK. You, I can't remember why.

Ambivalent on kgray and BunnyGo. I don't think either should be a strong candidate for D1 because they post, but could see them eventually being shown as scum who posts a lot rather than town who posts a lot

What about demon seems scummy to you?

[BobMcBob]

Why do you think I have not done this already?

Because you like to hide behind mechs for the entirety of D1 whenever you play a game? Use your gut, basically no information is coming out of this massclaim. You're not even pushing it in this game.

Actually, although accurate, is not the full truth I think. Although with this being the caveat that my recent games have been with scum Bozo, some parts may apply to his town game also. Bozo sucks at d1s. And the reason for that is that he is not the type of player who works in the flow, he also does not read the present well. He works based on the past and theory. As an engineer, I believe, he has to have a solution and or a framework to work around. Mechs are solution as d1 that evidence is being produced and a way to get data. Later on it can built as a solution for bozo. He cannot build something out of nothing, but there has to an end goal. As scum, that issue pops up as he has the solution and cannot justify strongly certain threads as he has to fake that solution. In the end, it results in lack of evolution of reads and has to rely on people who already look scummy.
That is my take on bozo.

You may be right, I don't remember heaps about him other than that he has pushed massive massclaims multiple times. Just to be clear, I do not scumread bozo and think he would be an awful lynch today. I just want to see a bit more from him today too.

[bozotheclown]

Because you like to hide behind mechs for the entirety of D1 whenever you play a game? Use your gut, basically no information is coming out of this massclaim. You're not even pushing it in this game.

Why do you characterize it as hiding?

I disagree, I think there results so far have been informative.

Mmmmm? Please inform us then, or do something else in the meantime. I highly doubt it's taking all your mental energy to bookkeep that list. You haven't done much of note other than it so far, hence hiding. I'm sure you'll come out tonight with something, but so far you have nothing.

I prefer to see everyone respond first.