MAFIA 64 - The Z Files - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[BunnyGo]

OK, new topic. I don't mean to pile on bona. He's allowed his opinions.

@kgray thoughts on a new topic?

Uh. Why do you think ghug is town?

He's not my strongest read anymore, but his early game seemed less on edge than last game. It seemed more carefree and silly.

honestly, bona may now be my strongest townread...

[kgray]

OK, new topic. I don't mean to pile on bona. He's allowed his opinions.

@kgray thoughts on a new topic?

Uh. Why do you think ghug is town?

He's not my strongest read anymore, but his early game seemed less on edge than last game. It seemed more carefree and silly.

Huh. That's not what I expected you to say at all, I didn't think he seemed carefree and silly. I think he seems annoyed and uptight.

[Bonatogether]

Please tell me what "good info" we will learn by flipping one of those town PRs you mentioned.

We gain more insight on a ton of interactions that they had today. Preferably we could get someone else who is scum or VT.

If we have one of the roles I mentioned on the block anyways, they should probably claim anyways.

OK, let me take your statement as given: People with lots of interactions generate intelligence for us to hunt.

This was true last game for sure.

Question: Why not leave them alive to generate MORE interactions? It's hard for them to keep up the rate of content without giving stuff away. We can always go back and reread later.

Because I'm impatient and want to catch scum now.

[BunnyGo]

@kgray do you still think ghug is scum? why or why not?

[BunnyGo]

We gain more insight on a ton of interactions that they had today. Preferably we could get someone else who is scum or VT.

If we have one of the roles I mentioned on the block anyways, they should probably claim anyways.

OK, let me take your statement as given: People with lots of interactions generate intelligence for us to hunt.

This was true last game for sure.

Question: Why not leave them alive to generate MORE interactions? It's hard for them to keep up the rate of content without giving stuff away. We can always go back and reread later.

Because I'm impatient and want to catch scum now.

Sh*t...you're dragging me back in....

Then why not vote your strongest scum read no matter their interaction level?

[Bonatogether]

anyway this discussion tells me that bona is new and worth disregarding. thats all Ive taken from this

yeah....and young. Has to ubermensch the game. I hate heros.

I like bona. but hes saying some ridiculous stuff

D:

[BunnyGo]

Uh. Why do you think ghug is town?

He's not my strongest read anymore, but his early game seemed less on edge than last game. It seemed more carefree and silly.

Huh. That's not what I expected you to say at all, I didn't think he seemed carefree and silly. I think he seems annoyed and uptight.

Interesting, I think I understand our difference of opinion. Last game he was butting heads with me and Eden day one, and this game with you and brain. I can see why you had an annoyed and uptight read of him now.

[Bonatogether]

Bringing this back, you started this as a defense of Macca as a "lurker". They are the median poster last I checked. That qualifies as a DNK (do not kill) for you?

Like I said earlier, they have a reasonable post count but very few ideas or things that would relate their alignment to other people that we can use.

Could say the same thing about you, my friend

We have an entire hour's worth of stuff that people can poke through to figure out between me, you, and bunny

[DemonRHK]

Through bot of 40:

bozo appeared! Yay!

lots of noise between ghug brain . I'm leaning town on brain and null on ghug

Jas...holy shit. I made a offhand comment about not sheeping a player with *checks bot* 28 words posted and they came out swingin with the most...I guess Seto Kaiba-style counter pointsthis side of a scientology convention.

A tossed GF, if true, is AMAZING for us in the long run, as we will get mostly consistent inno scans for our various cops.

See you at the bottom of 45

[BunnyGo]

He's not my strongest read anymore, but his early game seemed less on edge than last game. It seemed more carefree and silly.

Huh. That's not what I expected you to say at all, I didn't think he seemed carefree and silly. I think he seems annoyed and uptight.

Interesting, I think I understand our difference of opinion. Last game he was butting heads with me and Eden day one, and this game with you and brain. I can see why you had an annoyed and uptight read of him now.

But he was mostly not interacting with me, so it was a very different feel from last game.

[Bonatogether]

OK, let me take your statement as given: People with lots of interactions generate intelligence for us to hunt.

This was true last game for sure.

Question: Why not leave them alive to generate MORE interactions? It's hard for them to keep up the rate of content without giving stuff away. We can always go back and reread later.

Because I'm impatient and want to catch scum now.

Sh*t...you're dragging me back in....

Then why not vote your strongest scum read no matter their interaction level?

Because we don't have enough info to nail several right now.

[BunnyGo]

Because I'm impatient and want to catch scum now.

Sh*t...you're dragging me back in....

Then why not vote your strongest scum read no matter their interaction level?

Because we don't have enough info to nail several right now.

GAH!

Nope...nope nope nope nope...going to sleep. This is crazy now...

[Bonatogether]

Sh*t...you're dragging me back in....

Then why not vote your strongest scum read no matter their interaction level?

Because we don't have enough info to nail several right now.

GAH!

Nope...nope nope nope nope...going to sleep. This is crazy now...

So you agree now?

[kgray]

@kgray do you still think ghug is scum? why or why not?

Not sure... I think he's being different than I expect? His tone seems more like that from last game (we disagree on this apparently) which makes me think he's irritated that he's scum again. But he doesn't seem as concerned about his appearance, which makes me think more town. I also don't think he seems to be hunting so far, but in general he's less active than I've seen him as either alignment so that may be NAI.

So he feels off somehow but probably not enough to warrant killing him.

[BunnyGo]

Huh. That's not what I expected you to say at all, I didn't think he seemed carefree and silly. I think he seems annoyed and uptight.

Interesting, I think I understand our difference of opinion. Last game he was butting heads with me and Eden day one, and this game with you and brain. I can see why you had an annoyed and uptight read of him now.

But he was mostly not interacting with me, so it was a very different feel from last game.

At least until the weird push on my claim...huh...that was uptight too...

I took it as playful at the time since I didn't care...

[celaph]

rdrivera claims to have received two town PR

Or I don't want to expose PRs doing this useless massclaim of discarded cards.

Why do you think it it useless? We already have 6 discarded mafia claims, and the most likely number of mafia cards dealt is 10. I think that is interesting and potentially useful.

It's worth noting that more discarded mafia cards increase the likelihood that a larger than expected number of mafia cards were given out. That said, I doubt many scum would risk claiming to discard a card that they didn't have. So while it may be interesting, I'm expecting that its use will be limited outside of lovers.

[BunnyGo]

Because we don't have enough info to nail several right now.

GAH!

Nope...nope nope nope nope...going to sleep. This is crazy now...

So you agree now?

Oh my god...the optimism of youth...holy...what the...@jasnah: you talk to him. You have energy for this.

[celaph]

Well there's no way you don't hate everything Bunny ever says, so I'm gonna call this a win.

I actually don't hate everything Bunny has said this game, which concerns me but isn't something I want to think about at the moment. I think I townread you slightly for how much I disagree with you?

Who is actually scummy?

Celaph, lfischl, you.

These games are hard because the behavioral scumtells are so easy to avoid when you have another scumteam to hunt for, so I'm expecting to be especially inaccurate early.

Did I make this list out of fear like kgray? Because you had trouble spelling my name like LfischL? Or some actual reason?

In all seriousness if I had to guess I would say activity, but I'll let you say more if you want.

[Bonatogether]

GAH!

Nope...nope nope nope nope...going to sleep. This is crazy now...

So you agree now?

Oh my god...the optimism of youth...holy...what the...@jasnah: you talk to him. You have energy for this.

[BobMcBob]

Discard claims:

Mafia goon: ghug, brain, celaph
Mafia lover: jasnah
VT: damo
Not-town: Bunny
Alien: lfischl

Not claimed at all: bonatogether, BobMcBob, bozo, Donny, e.m.c, ezio, Hamilton, Hellenic, Macca, rdrivera, Demon, kgray, Maniac, vecna

(please fill in more/modify if wrong)

Discard claims:

Mafia goon: ghug, brain, celaph
Mafia lover: jasnah
Mafia GF: bozo
VT: damo
Not-town: Bunny
Alien: lfischl

Literally his first post lmao. I knew this would happen.